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Cliff Richard High Court Case

I don't think secret arrests are a bad thing necessarily. The number of careers and reputations that have been ruined by allegations which prove to be unfounded, there is a balance to be struck between public interest and the presumption of innocence until proven guilty.


However arrests in secret are also what happens in dictatorships where people 'disappear'. There are very good reasons to keep things transparently in the public domain.

However in this case Sir Cliff Richard wasn't ever arrested was he?
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International News Presentation: Past and Present

Also, (may have asked this before) why is it that Korean and other languages not broadcast English characters typically have a English abbreviations in their logo and openings.

One example is KBS having it on their signage on their outdoor set.

And this clip really is of KBS, also anchored from the DMZ ahead of the summit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCsFugzkk2s


One reason may be that a lot of display technologies - like 5x7 and 14-segment LCD/VFD matrix displays - display Roman characters better than they display non-Roman characters like Kanji, Hangul, Arabic, Farsi etc. Some broadcast standards may also dictate Roman ASCII characters being used in channel names etc.?

However I suspect the use of Roman characters pre-date this - so may not be an original cause, but a continued reason.

Even boring things like SPG idents for colour bars may need to be in basic Roman. They also work far more effectively internationally as Roman characters have become a defacto 'standard' I guess?
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ITV abandons the South Bank

Jon posted:
Where is Peston going?


I expect it will go into TC2 - which is a "set/strike" set-up in the ITV Daytime configuration, unlike TC3 which has two "set-standing" sets.
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Who Wants to be a Millionaire?

Moz posted:
Really!!???


Name another then.


If you're talking non-scripted, then it's probably top over The Weakest Link, The Chase, Wheel Of Fortune and The Price Is Right.

If we're talking all sets, then it's up there, in the conversation with the bridge of the Starship Enterprise from Star Trek, the Tardis Console Room from Doctor Who and the Batcave from the Batman TV series.


The Strictly / Dancing With The Stars staging is pretty recognisable - even if some shows were bought early enough that they have more local control of the set.
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TV Breakdown Appreciation Thread

Wasn't there a BBC OB programme that failed to make it on air fairly recently because they had booked a satellite that was below the horizon at the time of the show?


I think you've got the wrong end of the stick. TV communication satellites don't move in the sky (*) - they are at a fixed position (that's why Sky dishes don't have to be mechanically tracked). Either the satellite is above the horizon or below the horizon - the time of day is irrelevant. Telstar - the first active communications satellite - DID move around in the sky as it was a low orbiter, but by the mid-to-late 60s we'd got geostationary TV satellites that appear fixed in the sky (They are in an orbit which means they counteract the earth's rotation to an observer on the earth's surface).

What HAS happened in the past is that shows have booked satellite space on 'cheap' satellites that are beginning to wobble (*) a bit, or book satellites that have marginal coverage of the location they are broadcasting from and to. (Satellites have 'footprints' for their various transponders / dishes)

There was a famous occasion 20+ years ago when a VE Day special programme (an early independent - made by Kilroy Television I think) failed to make transmission at all because the signal was too poor to broadcast by the time it reached the UK.

(*) They do move a very small amount - but usually this is less than the beam width of your dish so you don't need to refocus. However AIUI the bigger the dish, the narrower the beam width, and as bigger dishes are often used for broadcasts, you end up having to dynamically track some ageing satellites to counteract the wobble (but these satellites are cheaper to use...)
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NBC News, MSNBC, CNBC, NBC affiliates and TODAY


Yep - they aren't being flight-cased up and driven hundreds of miles each day or so - nor are they being mounted and un-mounted and put into and out of lens cradles frequently. They have an easy life. If they are on remote PTZ mountings they also don't have ergonomic issues to worry about'.


I’m also guessing that camera settings and their remote control units don’t get frequent use. They probably get frequently White balanced but I imagine that’s it.


You don't see studio cameras white balanced that often in my experience. White balance is far more a PSC thing.

You either see a full line up, or cameras properly colour balanced by eye+scope by a vision operator/supervisor. These days, modern cameras drift so little, I doubt the cameras get touched much at all, unless they pan between sets that need colour balance or exposure tweakss because of inconsistent lighting, flare etc. You may have scene files or similar for different talent (as there may be skin detail differences etc.)
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Good Morning Britain

Does TVC have any sort of dedicated MCR now, in addition to the individual galleries - what are the arrangements for getting the outside sources in? (given obviously, the old SCAR is no more, likewise the satellite farm). I'm a bit out of the loop on what's happened recently with Red Bee…


CAR/CCA is effectively virtualised now - with operations at both NBH and Broadcast Centre, as well as Wood Norton (and Glasgow and Salford which I think they also have remote control of?).

I don't know if there is any on-site operation at TV Centre, but there is likely to be some connectivity I'd have thought.

Now CAR/CCA is back in-house (no longer part of Siemens/ATOS) the teams that run MCR1 and MCR2 and CCA/CAR are under common management I believe. (MCR1 is effectively the Radio switching operation at NBH, MCR2 is effectively the SCAR equivalent - and often referred to as SCAR still. Both can do everything, but the rough job split remains. The names refer to the operational areas, not the physical equipment)
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Good Morning Britain

Would O/s's be routed to TVC via the CAR at BH or BBC Studioworks at Elstree?


I visited TVC about 18 months ago, there was TC1 and TC3 galleries being built, and TC2’s being done as an afterthought ( no refreshed decor that 1 and 3 had) There was a CCA for all three in a triangular area in the middle. At the time all were ‘simple’ LE studios. ITV have added a shedload of their own kit ( and other facilities) since deciding to rent TC2 and 3.

TC2 PCR has rotated 90 degrees since the refurb. In the latter days of BBC TVC running it was 'long and thin', now it's 'narrower and deep' I think.

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I’d imagine the OS circuits are most possibly arranged via ITN at GIR, and no part of the Beeb is involved?


Not sure. This Morning do their own thing in OB provision terms I think, and have no real links to ITN, so would expect those to work directly to BBC CAR/CCA?
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Winter Olympics 2018

It is a pity the chair colour matching wasn't so effective (they were the same chair but differently lit) (Also the curse of no reflections strikes again)


Ah they were? I thought it was deliberately a different colour chair to reflect the guest being in another location.


I'm assured they weren't...

Actually - I now remember that the empty chairs are lit differently - if you look at the hosts' chairs they are similar.
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Winter Olympics 2018

I just realised I didn't upload my screengrabs of Kanal 5 Sweden's remote guest:

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I don't think they ever claimed the guest were in the studio, but equally I'm not sure if they mentioned they were sitting in a greenscreen studio in Stockholm either.

They were scrupulously honest and always introduced the guest as being in Stockholm and appearing by technology.
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The full-body angle was shot on its side, so that they could get more resolution, then I think they used some AR processing to match the perspective.

It is a pity the chair colour matching wasn't so effective (they were the same chair but differently lit) (Also the curse of no reflections strikes again)

They did a cracking job at cheating the eye-lines in both studios though.

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I've also found a bunch of behind-the-scenes photos of Discovery's install in PyeongChang: https://www.flickr.com/photos/andrewbreaks/sets/72157691909478191/


They also used AR to track the LED wall to the jib so it had parallax. Unfortunately the LED wall is also in the singles, and the mix to the non-AR backdrop (to avoid horrible angle changes on the MCU when the jib repositioned) were really obvious.
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Going Underground

Cable distribution has been around in the UK since the 1950's. Why then did satellite become the more popular method of transmitting?


Cable only covered a relatively small number of homes until relatively recently. Satellite offered nationwide coverage instantly.

Initially cable was only really deployed in areas with poor off-air signals - rather than as a way of getting extra services.
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NBC News, MSNBC, CNBC, NBC affiliates and TODAY

The affiliates all are automated on Ross OverDrive and have Kayenne (I think that’s the top of the line switcher) switching with minimal panels (the panel has significantly less M/E rows than they actually have M/Es). I think they run Grass Valley servers (or did) and in until recently used Edius in the field but have switched to Premier.

As for spares every station has one or two cameras for the newsroom or as a flash cam. I imagine they could easily disconnect one of the LDX’s from them to the studio.


If they've gone for GVG switchers and servers then going for GVG cameras allows them to increase their potential for discounting.

In many Mosart studios you don't have a mixer control surface at all now (though most facilities will have one to allow for programming as it is still nicer to do that on a panel than a PC screen)

I suspect the cameras have a very easy life in affiliate news studios - so won't suffer as much as those rigged and de-rigged daily on studios and OBs. GVGs DO have a lousy reputation for reliability in that regard...


If they are rolling out across the NBC Owned base with 11 stations and probably six cameras each I am assuming they got a discount (4 or 5 in the studio the others flash or newsroom cameras). Probably five or six more for each of the eight sites that have colocated Telemundo stations (Washington would make 9 but they don’t have room and use Sony PTZ) for a grand total of 100. And a few for the two that have network bureaus (that aren’t NY, DC, or LA). All the cameras are safely mounted and likely rarely removed in robotic pedestals or tripods/PTZ with height drives in newsrooms. A few studios have jibs and may get knocked around a bit more. None the less they are still in use 6-10 hours a day.

Yep - they aren't being flight-cased up and driven hundreds of miles each day or so - nor are they being mounted and un-mounted and put into and out of lens cradles frequently. They have an easy life. If they are on remote PTZ mountings they also don't have ergonomic issues to worry about.

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I’m just speculating that they are being rolled out but it could make sense as many of their stations have gone HD 8-10 years ago or have moved and are due for replacement.

The individual Telemundo stations may have the Sony HDCs, some have Panasonic’s, I saw one with Hitachi brick cameras.


Yep - capital life for most production gear is 5 years (IT-based stuff 3 years these days) so once you've gone past that you're sweating your assets and in 'credit'.