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NOW TV

I recently purchased a NVidia Shield, which allows you watch NOW TV through the Chromecast Ultra add-on and the 25fps issue is really noticeable. I watched Nat Geo Wild and you could see where the lack of frames per second shows on fast scenes which is similar to what happens when you watch sport on Sky Sports.


Have you configured your Shield TV for 50Hz output. By default it usually runs at 59.94Hz (which will be even worse) and it doesn't refresh rate change automatically in most players (it does in Kodi and SPMC)
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AppleTV 4K and Apple Video Services.

BTTV will launch soon on Apple TV (and on other Connected Platforms in time), effectively becoming cord cut-table.


Let's hope it matches their multicast quality, but I fear it will be more like their unicast.
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AppleTV 4K and Apple Video Services.

Very impressive new Video player has been released by Channel 5 for their My5 App on the platform in the last 24 hours. Wierd quirk though, each advert and transition to a different video source invokes the speed training routine. Does it very rapidly though. I have suspicions it's at 720p too.


Wonder if there is a break in the HLS/HDS/MPEG DASH streams? So each element is effectively a new item.
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Royal Wedding - Harry & Meghan



Back to the wedding do you think there will be the option for the big three BBC, ITV/ITN and Sky News to hook up to the master router and take ISO feeds?


If you mean ISO feeds from St George's Chapel of the wedding service - I'd think that would be very unlikely.

I can't imagine that the BBC (who I think are providing the host feed) would want to provide cameras that aren't on talkback and don't have tallies from a third party (too many chances of hitting a re-frame, crash zoom for re-focus etc.) I'm pretty sure the only feed available will be the final mix, and it's likely that the BBC will have the only cameras in the chapel. This isn't a football match after all - it's likely to be a tightly camera scripted event for key sequences, and cutting away from that would be tricky to manage cleanly (particularly to cameras who are only working to the script.

I suspect the Palace would only want the agreed coverage to leave the chapel, and trust the BBC to provide that, whereas other broadcasters taking ISOs would not be across what has been agreed.

Also as the service is being covered in UHD HDR I believe, you'd have to put downconverters and HDR->SDR converters on every output (and in the case of HDR->SDR conversion probably have someone keeping an eye on the tone mapping)

Apart from a potential beauty shot or two - I doubt anything else would be provided.
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Eurovision 2018


Following up my comment about the cost of Eurovision and I heard a guest on radio earlier today during a discussion about the contest say that the UK had to pay "an entry fee" of £311,000 to enter a song in the contest this year. Whether this has any basis in fact I've no idea.


That figure comes from an FOI request asking how much the BBC pay for the contest. It's the fee the BBC pay to the EBU to broadcast the 2 x Semi-finals and the Final from 2012 or 2013 I believe. That's an incredibly small amount of money for around 8 hours of entertainment TV. So not the fee we pay to enter, but the fee we pay to enter and get given a large chunk of entertainment TV.
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Eurovision 2019

I'm guessing the EBU will want an experienced team to assist KAN, as they aren't yet a year old are they? My guessing is that some Scandinavians will be involved. Again.
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Eurovision 2018

JAS84 posted:
Are the BBC going to pull out of the credits early like they always do?
They did, they were definitely still scrolling - and too damn fast to read - when it cut to the Eurovision ident.

Also, the first time I think I've seen a credit squeeze used to show more credits!


The BBC did a push back last year for the BBC credits. Until last year Graham (and Sir Terry before him) used to do a very brief verbal credit for a few key roles, but graphics are a neater way of doing it.
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TV Breakdown Appreciation Thread

Yes, Channel 4 wouldn't have even known there was a problem, the adverts are being put in way downstream of them and there wouldn't be an off air feed of every region at C4.

Also they wouldn't care, its TVS's airtime to fill so if there's a problem then it's their problem, not C4's


It's odd how the Croft advert had a countdown, I thought when ad breaks were run from film they were spliced together into one 3 minute film, not run as seperate reels


I wonder if the film leader was at the beginning of the advert on an ACR25 cart (i.e. the inserts were played in off cart, but had a film leader if they were transferred from film?). Could be that TVS had an ACR25 set-up and played individual ads from carts rather than comping?
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Eurovision 2018

Whilst previewing what is to come on Thursdays show there was a technical glitch with Slovenias‘ preview and I guess they played out the wrong package.


That was during the BBC opt-out and looked to be intentional.
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Eurovision 2018

This is bizarre. Planet Portugal with David Attenburger? Nice BBC rip off Portugal.


Would’ve thought they had permission so not really a rip off


That was close enough to pastiche to almost certainly not require permission in most countries.
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Eurovision 2018

So we can vote by phone and the app. but yet we still can't text vote...Surprise surprise. Was app voting available to the UK last year?

Yes, app voting was available last year.


Which in effect sends a text via the app does it not?


No - it dials the mobile short code phone number and makes a call.
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Eurovision 2018

So we can vote by phone and the app. but yet we still can't text vote...Surprise surprise. Was app voting available to the UK last year?


Yes - App voting has been available in the UK since the EBU engineered an app that dialled the mobile shortcode for the UK. Can't remember if we started being able to app vote in 2014 or 2015 (but pretty certain we couldn't in 2013).

No IP or SMS voting in the UK - just phone calls. (Not sure what the app does in other countries)