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Royal Wedding - Harry & Meghan

The Dolby Atmos sound on Sky's UHD feed is stunning.


The main chapel audio mix is being done by the main sound supervisor of the BBC's Proms coverage I believe.

I expect it is being mixed in Dolby Atmos, with the BBC taking the 5.1 core. (Most broadcast Atmos just adds a couple of extra speaker feeds, rather than using a full object-based mix as movies do)

It sounds gorgeous in 5.1 on BBC One HD.
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Royal Wedding - Harry & Meghan

RDJ posted:
Meredith Vieira is a guest on the BBC coverage. I'm guessing PBS is taking the BBC coverage then.


Yes. Meredith was over in the UK presenting 'Royal Wedding Watch' (made by BBC Studios for PBS) - and I think she mentioned it at the end of the show last night.

PBS are promoting that they are taking the main BBC One feed with BBC anchors.
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Royal Wedding - Harry & Meghan

Is it definite the BBC is doing the host feed? Anyone got an external reference?


Yes. The main Chapel host coverage is being produced by a BBC Studios production team, from the Events department. Obviously it isn't using BBC OB facilities as the BBC no longer have any in England. Similarly as the BBC have very few staff now - the multi-camera directors and a lot of the production team working for the BBC will be freelance, as will the technical crews.

The BBC is making both the whole BBC One programme, and also a clean international feed (not just the chapel), available as usual.

I found the international feed it’s encrypted at 12.5w, where’s the bbc one feed?


No idea - wouldn't be surprised if the main feeds from site were on fibre. How the BBC One show is then distributed to rights holders (who are taking the BBC One show) are getting the feed. It may well be being distributed via the Eurovision network (which is fibre and satellite)
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Royal Wedding - Harry & Meghan

Is one of the guest Tom Bradby? Camera was on him a few times.


Yes - Tom is known to be well liked by William and Harry. He was ITV News's Royal Correspondent for a number of years.
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Royal Wedding - Harry & Meghan

I'm guessing these Anita Rani bits on the BBC are prerecorded? She never mentions the presenter(s) that threw to her and doesn't hand back to them at the end of the segment either.


On these kind of events it's very usual to have reporter cameras ISOed into EVS and then quickly turned around. It means you can interview people without having to keep them waiting, and then drop them in soon after. You can also start playing the interview before it's finished if you need to.

What it does mean is that you have to throw to them generically - and not with a question...
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Royal Wedding - Harry & Meghan

Is it definite the BBC is doing the host feed? Anyone got an external reference?


Yes. The main Chapel host coverage is being produced by a BBC Studios production team, from the Events department. Obviously it isn't using BBC OB facilities as the BBC no longer have any in England. Similarly as the BBC have very few staff now - the multi-camera directors and a lot of the production team working for the BBC will be freelance, as will the technical crews.

The BBC is making both the whole BBC One programme, and also a clean international feed (not just the chapel), available as usual.
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Royal Wedding - Harry & Meghan

mark posted:
ITV mentioned that their coverage is going out in lots of countries.

They just said hello to American viewers. Anyone know which US channels are taking it?


PBS in the US are taking the BBC One coverage (including the BBC presentation) I believe.

Each weeknight PBS stations have been showing 'Royal Wedding Watch' - a PBS commission from BBC Studios - made in London with Meredith Vieira and Matt Baker presenting, with Anita Rani reporting from Windsor.
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Eurovision 2018

I'm sure there were several other references that suggested he had seen the dress rehearsal.


Yes - Graham traditionally sees the Friday dress rehearsal and most of the Saturday morning non-dress rehearsal - radio show permitting. My comments were that he may not be able to attend the commentator briefings, though I'm sure the BBC production team do.

Of course Graham will have known exactly what the Young Musician trailer was for and about - but he was putting himself in the position of the viewer...

The EBU really need to stop crow-barring in promotions for other Eurovision events that only a small number of countries take. The JESC stuff is almost always toe curling.
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Royal Wedding - Harry & Meghan

The BBC are host for the service, with Sky and BBC sharing host duties for the parade (half the route each).

Yet Sky are declaring that they have UHD/4K coverage of the ceremony itself, not just part of the route.


If the BBC are the host, does it mean they also have 4K enabled cameras in place within the chapel? They don't appear to be broadcasting it in 4K anywhere in the UK. If Sky have their own cameras within the chapel, that would seem an unnecessary duplication.
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The BBC are host-broadcasters of the service, and I believe the BBC-run truck is running 4K (and HDR I think). Sky will have bought the 4K feed.

My understanding is that the UHD feed may well be made available on iPlayer too (in HLG HDR) as part of the BBC UHD HLG Live Streaming trial (which started quietly with a small Rugby League match a couple of weekends ago) - or at least at one point that was the plan. (It could be that there has been a decision not to run HDR, and that may also mean the BBC don't run it on iPlayer)
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Eurovision 2018

Meant to say also, the fact that Graham Norton knew nothing about the Eurovision Young Musicians trailer indicates to me that he hadn’t bothered to attend either the jury final or the family show earlier in the day. At both shows the final is run through from start to finish and the inserts and adverts are all included. Also seems to suggest that he doesn’t bother to attend the daily commentator briefings.


'Doesn't bother' is a little harsh. It's more likely to be a case that he can't. Unlike most countries the BBC split Semifinal and Final commentary duties between two teams, and Graham has a chat show to record and a radio show to make. It's not a case of 'doesn't bother' more a case of 'can't' isn't it?

Graham's commentary is always pretty entertaining, and he does a pretty decent job. I think his comment on the Eurovision Young Musician trail was more that it told you nothing in, and of, itself - not that he didn't know anything about it. The EBU keep shoe-horning in JESC and other promos in to the final (last year I think it was an EBU choir competition?) that really don't work...
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Royal Wedding - Harry & Meghan

I wonder why the Australian networks want to use Outside Broadcasting rather than use a studio? The scenery is a bit redundant when it's mostly dark.


Two reasons I suspect. A studio costs more, and one of them wants to present from 5 different locations. Repositioning a studio each day would probably be tricky - you'd probably need two so you could alternate days. $$$$
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25 years since ITV Schools ended.

Riaz posted:
I think LWT might beg to differ.


Which ITV companies did not make any schools programmes?

Who nowadays holds the rights to ITV schools programmes produced by companies that lost such as Thames?


I'd imagine ITV Schools programmes are the same as any other programmes aren't they? The producing ITV franchise would retain ownership of the content.

Wasn't ITV Schools just a co-ordinating and scheduling operation as part of a public service licensing commitment as there was no advertising? I'd imagine that the larger ITV companies made more content than the smaller ones almost pro-rata based on their income ? Or did all ITV franchise holders contribute to a commissioning pot that was then doled out to ITV companies to fund making shows?