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Royal Wedding - Harry & Meghan

dosxuk posted:
Rkolsen posted:
mapperuo posted:
I heard yesterday that Sky actually had to buy the 12 small robotic UHD cameras inside the Church themselves from Sony as they couldn't find a hire company with enough at short notice. This is why they actually got access to the UHD feed, the bigger HDC cameras were provided by the OB companies.


I think they’d be using the brick P43s with a PTZ Head. The BRC-X1000 is a 4K PTZ one but doesn’t offer HDR.


All the remote heads I saw were pan/tilt heads (mostly smartheads) with cameras mounted on them as opposed to actual PTZ cameras.


There's no way an integrated PTZ camera would be used for a 'normal' camera on an event like this. It would be a P1 (if you were in HD) or the UHD P43 equivalent on a separate PTZ mount. At a stretch you might use it for an 'impossible to achieve any other way' shot that is used just once or twice (say a concealed camera in an archway)

The integrated PTZ cameras have compromised, small-sensor, picture quality in comparison and don't intercut seamlessly with HDC1500/2500s (in the case of the P1) or HDC4300s (in the case of the P43) whereas the P1/P43 are essentially a near-identical camera in picture quality terms, and take the same broadcast lenses, just without the ancillary stuff (talkback, SMPTE fibre, prompt, reverse vision etc.)

So its likely that Sony bought P43 brick cameras, and hired remote heads for them, rather than buying 'robotic UHD' cameras.
Last edited by noggin on 27 May 2018 4:15pm
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BBC News Channel Presentation - 21/03/16 onwards

London Lite posted:
Sophie also did a VT for BBC London News yesterday as well.


BBC London often pick up network or news channel pieces and run them in the 1830 - even though those packages haven't been commissioned by them initially, was it one of those (they'll sometimes add a BBC London SoC if needed) or was it an original commission by BBC London?
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STV to shut STV2 Local Stations

Brekkie posted:
Has the BBC though ever been supplied with anything by a local channel which would be considered acceptable for broadcast on BBC1?


Part of the deal was copy - i.e. written journalism - I think. Not sure we'd know whether stories had been picked up this way or not.
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STV to shut STV2 Local Stations

a516 posted:
A reminder that STV refused to take any licence fee money for its local channels, which multiplied by 5 (for each L-DTPS licence) over the first 3 years of each licence would have added up to something quite substantial and would have avoided some of the losses that were accrued.
https://www.theedinburghreporter.co.uk/2013/01/stv-will-not-use-bbc-funds-for-local-tv-in-edinburgh-glasgow/


True - but conversely they integrated their newsgathering operation with their ITV franchise news operation didn't they? Sharing this original journalism with the BBC would have been a big step for them - as they would have had to have supplied a large number of stories (the money is multiplied by 5, but so is the story count), as well as pictures to the BBC in return. (They are fierce rivals in Scotland - and all those stories would have been handed to Rep Scot on a plate)
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Good Morning Britain

Whataday posted:
It would make sense if there was a core team of Studioworks staff providing certain support for the three studios. But 2&3 are certainly sub let rather than a traditional hire agreement.


I thought it was more of a damp-hire buy-out. No sub-leasing. Studioworks own and operate the studios, but ITV Daytime have them 24/7 as a buy-out.
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Good Morning Britain

Whataday posted:
dosxuk posted:
They are using BBC Studioworks as facilities, but we don't hear facility companies credited like that anywhere else so why should they here.


Even more than that actually, ITV Studios are subletting studios 2 & 3 from Studioworks (rather than hiring). They are fully staffed with ITV Studios employees and they are ITV's studios for the duration of their sublease.


Aren't they damp-hired rather than dry-hired? I thought Studioworks provided engineering support still, but ITV Studios provided the crew? Or are ITV Studios also handling maintenance and engineering support?

Damp hire isn't unusual these days.
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International Presentation

_Tom_ posted:
There’s something depressing about a breakfast morning show in the dark...


Like Daybreak v1.0?
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Royal Wedding - Harry & Meghan

harshy posted:
Yeah they started building up from Tuesday couldn’t believe how big the coverage was in Australia until I saw it with my own eyes.


We share a Royal Family - so I guess it's understandable.
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Royal Wedding - Harry & Meghan

Rkolsen posted:
chrisdafur posted:
Andrew posted:
Is there any news on the ratings of how many people watched in the US?


"The couple’s stateside audience was a whopping 22.4 million viewers across the six major networks carrying it."

NBC 6.42 million
ABC 6.38 million
CBS 4.79 million
Fox News 2 million
CNN 1.8 million
MSNBC just under a million

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/tv-ratings-royal-wedding-brings-18-million-viewers-us-broadcast-1113498


Looks like it was 29.2 Million

https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/29-2-million-people-tuned-into-the-royal-wedding-on-saturday-and-nbc-was-the-no-1-network/365218

https://www.recode.net/2018/5/20/17374586/royal-wedding-prince-harry-meghan-markle-viewership-us


What about PBS stations taking the BBC One show?
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Royal Wedding - Harry & Meghan

Rkolsen posted:
One final question for now did the host feed provide oneway talk back to rights holders so they’d get a heads up that a camera change is about to occur or a way for the commentators to know where the cameras coming from?


That's not something that would usually be made available on a state occasion in the UK to other broadcasters.

Commentators just 'say what they see', and joining or leaving you just wait for a shot change and then leave/join soon after.

The BBC domestic presentation truck is likely to have had director-director switched 4-wires to both the chapel and the route trucks (plus bleeds of open PTB possibly if wanted)
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Royal Wedding - Harry & Meghan

derek500 posted:
If Sky were using BBC cameras inside the chapel for their UHD, did the BBC supply the Dolby Atmos sound mix as well? Both pictures and sound were stunning.


I expect so. It was 5.1 on BBC One HD, so could easily have been mixed Atmos at source.

Broadcast Atmos isn't as complex as movie Atmos - as it isn't fully object based, you instead add some more ambience channels, and it's also backwards compatible with Dolby 5.1.

Not sure how it fits into the Dolby E scheme of things though - so it may have been 8 channel (5.2.1?) discrete to Sky who then encoded it in Atmos? (I heard a couple of what sounded like Dolby E splats on the BBC coverage)

The 5.1 mix on BBC One HD in the chapel was stunningly good. (As one would expect from the main TV sound supervisor for the Proms)
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Royal Wedding - Harry & Meghan

derek500 posted:
Sky's cameras are doing the outside stuff for themselves and the BBC. ITV are using their own. All three sharing the BBC's cameras of Inside the chapel.

So they're doing the UHD for Sky.


I think the BBC and Sky are sharing route coverage duties as part of a pooling agreement, rather than Sky doing it all. ITV aren't in that pool. (May well not be a single truck)