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BBC World News | 30th October 2017 Onwards

Rkolsen posted:
Are the monitors left on when not on air displaying the default identity? I know some places will leave them on but will run some sort of video to prevent screen burn. I saw one from KABC and it was pretty wild with fast moving objects and the colors wildly changing.

I’m surprised it hasn’t happened to the ones in Studio C especially as it’s hot most of the time. Then the ones in E.


I've seen a black screen with a slowly moving modulated circle wipe pattern in grey - which is bright enough to show you the screen is on, but moves around enough and is dim enough to reduce the issues of burn in.

You also have to be aware of this with OLED production monitors these days. Bars will burn in...
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BBC News Channel Presentation - 21/03/16 onwards

Rkolsen posted:
Are the previews/contributions of the various English regions done on Afternoon Live done in HD or are the sent to BH using existing studio camera and gallery via the contribution circuit? I assume a good deal of regions would have to set up a ENG camera (they’re HD right?) and use a Dirac to send it down the line.


Depends.

When they are from the studio of an SD English region (i.e. not Plymouth, Salford or London) they are SD. I think some regions have HD DTL positions now (using DiracPro compression with an HD camera) so they could use those - but most seem to use their studios, for additional branding for the local programme, better lighting, prompt etc.

Pretty much all the BBC regional ENG fleet is HD-capable (PMW500s and the cheap self shooting JVCs etc.) and the BBC English Region Current Affairs strand 'Inside Out' is produced in HD (BBC One HD rotates which regional version it shows during the opt-out period) and downconverted to SD for local broadcast, so most regions have HD editing too for their current affairs at least.

The English regions were all (I think) equipped with a DiracPro encoder to allow them to line-feed HD rushes for the Football League show when the BBC had rights. (Cardiff and Manchester - pre-Salford - also had DiracPro from around 2010 to let them line-feed HD edited content even though their studio infrastructure was SD)
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8pm BBC News summary axed

Mike W posted:
lhx1985 posted:
BM11 posted:
I am suprised they didn't try at least doing only the national part - with the regional part cut.


I'd argue that they should have cut the national part and supplied the UK news video and scripts to the regional centres.
Let them put out the bulletins in a similar fashion to radio news bulletins where there is a mix of local and national stuff.

To my knowledge, all of the regional centres can access the footage and rushes so in theory they could do this already.


Not quite - if rushes are digitised locally then they aren't available - but incoming line feeds, rushes digitised centrally, archive and cut sequences and packages should be available on W1 Jupiter (and a subset will be available via Davina)

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Certainly when Birmingham did news updates after The One Show in 2006 they would sometimes do the National and Regional headlines. I believe that was a 4 week pilot that lead to the 2007 pilot of the 8pm bulletin.


All nations and regions were fed pre-cut sequences as a line-feed from London, along with scripts on ENPS, for the national headlines after The One Show Birmingham pilots. There was an agreement that the post-One Show regional update would include national content written and edited in London by the network team.
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8pm BBC News summary axed

VMPhil posted:
Steve in Pudsey posted:

Or is the audience it was designed to serve now getting BBC News through other means (eg Newsbeat on Facebook) so it's raision d'etre is no longer valid?

That audience was getting news through the internet when it started nevermind now… it's always been there to catch the viewers around EastEnders, I thought.


I think one reason was that in surveys a significant number of people said they never watched any BBC News. By putting a bulletin before or after their most popular soap - they were aiming to engage an audience that doesn't normally watch the other bulletins.
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2018 FIFA World Cup Russia

UKnews posted:
TIGHazard posted:
If these overnight replays are all ITV games, my guess is that is how they will be shown in 4K for people who want them, and they'll be available to view on iPlayer afterwards.

My guess is that they won't - I think the 4K will be strictly live games only.


That would be my expectation too.
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BBC Breakfast

DanielK posted:
radiolistener posted:
I don't understand the necessity of always having 2 presenters in shot, when one speaks, the other just looks uncomfortable most of the time.

If someone is a good presenter, they don’t look uncomfortable usually.

The ‘Elstree Triangle’ is a method used - I believe that is the name...


The Elstree triangle is what people who aren't that comfortable on a two shot are best taught to do. It was named after Newsroom South East's double-headed presentation.

The triangle = Look to camera, look at co-presenter, look at script on-desk. And repeat.

It avoids the staring into camera reading your co-presenter's prompt issue. However is a bit of a trope...
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Britain’s Got Talent 2018

bluecortina posted:
LCL92 posted:
gottago posted:
I wonder if the BGT clips they showed on Monday are what ITV has on standby in case of a prolonged fault with any show, not just BGT. The caption at the bottom read as a bit too generic to just be for BGT breakdowns, it might be ITV’s version of Coast and the like.



Every live show is required to have an emergency filler tape as part of their live transmission planning. They are usually 10-15 mins in length and are required to have the disruption caption as lower thirds added in. Copies are kept at the TX source (so the OB truck in this case) , as well as at transmission.

That's not to say they don't have generic filler clips if something goes wrong during playout of recorded programmes. Not sure if that extends to BGT for breakdowns over Christmas and the like.


My bold, but I would be very surprised if this was the case.


Almost all live OB shows will have standby contingencies for issues on-site, which are likely to include standby VTs. Topical studio shows will also have standby content to cope with the loss of an OB insert, a last minute VT not making its slot etc.

ITV may take the view that having 'TX-like' standby content available at the OB is a better solution than ITV Playout handling it in some situations. (Obviously not a catastrophic link loss). Using channel branded content may also deflect criticism from the show...

Most BBC shows I know of have 'show branded' rather than 'channel branded' standby content on-site though.
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Sky Arts rumoured to go free-to-air

DVB Cornwall posted:
A British PSB ARTE would add to the portfolio of UKTV. It would shake up Sky Arts in the process.


I guess realistically that would be a BBC / Channel Four co-operative effort, as ITV and C5 don't do much in the way of arts (though C5 does tend to surprise with docs now and again).

To be honest - BBC Four is not a million miles away from Arte is it?
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BBC Oneness - idents and presentation

davidhorman posted:
Has anyone noticed glitches on BBC One lately? I thought it was just one night the week before last, during Eastenders and Holby - a frame would flash up from a few seconds before. I think I spotted it about four or five times.

I've just spotted it again halfway through tonight's Eastenders, this time flashing up more than once and accompanied with a sound glitch.

It could be my Freesat box, although I've seen it both live and on recordings now.


Yes - though I thought it was my box (Sky HD) too. It was a very odd artefact - flash frame (but more than a frame) from 20" or so earlier. It does it consistently when replaying the recorded stream too, at exactly the same point, so I don't think it's a glitch in the decoder.
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AppleTV 4K and Apple Video Services.

DVB Cornwall posted:
It's the BBC TWO live stream version that looked spectacular last night, I'll review the catchup in the morning.


Typically the live stream is used to create the catch-up version - at least initially. (They use the same encoded chunks and set an in- and out-point)
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NBC News, MSNBC, CNBC, NBC affiliates and TODAY

Rkolsen posted:
noggin posted:
Charles posted:

They went to the fire station to interview a fire chief and head back to the station when a tree fell on their car as they were driving. The area wasn't in an evacuation zone. I agree that I don't think that was a deliberate attempt to put them in danger. I can definitely think of far more situations where field crews have been subjected to much, much more dangerous conditions.

It's a cheap shot, or at the very least, a stretch, to say they died because of our private industry television market.


I'm not sure it's a cheap shot to question the safety training and risk assessment culture of an industry? Particularly when working to a deadline had been used in a previous report, and in an industry that is seen as incredibly commercial.

In the UK we hear some horror stories of US News safety culture - some of it, I'm sure, exaggerated. However when you read of US news crews working on live trucks being electrocuted by masts hitting power lines, and news helicopters crashing into each other, it does raise questions.

Yes - freak accidents do happen, and tragic situations do arise that couldn't reasonably be predicted. What is really important is to learn from them.


There have not been any mast related accidents in years. Same with helicopter crashes - there were two instances in the last decade one collision in Phoenix during a chase and one in Seattle caused by loss of hydraulics during take off. The first crash was caused likely by the pilots not seeing each other and now they evenly space and fly at different altitudes. And with the new high definition and smaller zoom lens pilots can be a mile or more away from a crash.


There have been both since I started in the industry... One wonders whether technology changes - LiveU/WMT and SNG, and longer lenses on helicopters, are the reasons there have been fewer of late, rather than improved safety training and risk assessment culture.
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AppleTV 4K and Apple Video Services.

DVB Cornwall posted:
Watch the BBC iPlayer live streams via AppleTV and comment. Springwatch tonight was far better than broadcast HD in my view. Stunning. If they're not using the 8mbps profile via the AppleTV platform, give me a hat to eat. Could easily be misconstrued as 4K in parts.


Watching the catch up version on my ATV4K in 4K it looks like the 720p50 profile to me - quite harsh compression artefacts on the #springwatch tag. The source material might be a little bit bright and shiny... Doesn't look like a higher bit rate to me, and nothing like UHD.

Has iPlayer announced it is going to do a 8Mbs H264 SDR stream?

I know we're getting higher bitrate 1080p50 and 720p50 streams alongside the 1440p50 and 2160p50 streams using HEVC for the UHD HDR sourced content (particularly as it's a 'high quality' source and 10-bit) but didn't think they had announced anything new for regular SDR 8-bit stuff.
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