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Peston on Sunday to move to Wednesdays

If STV or UTV have their way, viewers in these regions might get to see Peston very later in the schedule, if they decide to air local programming.


UTV doesn't exist any more does it? UTV is an ITV plc outlet - won't they just do as they are told by management? STV is still independent - UTV is ITV Northern Ireland in all but name.
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The new NEW Central West and BBC Midlands thread

If a BBC English regional centre gets a new character generator - my money will be on CasparCG not VizRT these days.
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BBC Wales Today

It cant be long now until BBC Wales makes the move from leafy suburbs of Llandaff to Cardiff city centre. I was in Cardiff at the weekend and the Norman Foster building opposite Cardiff Central station now looks almost finished. Certainly no small building at all - is it just going to be purely BBC use or shared use with other companies?


I think it's at least a year if not longer away. The BBC have only just received the building from the developers. Now the SIs have to get in to start the tech install.


Could the tech install today be quicker than it was in years past? Here a lot of SI will have setup everything in their warehouse and get all the connections working. Then at the site they just have to run wires.


This is a significant IP-based install - probably the first large-scale all-IP build in the UK. It's not a small station or single-studio build - it will have multiple channels of Playout, news studios, some form of general production studio(s), HD and UHD post-production, including on-line sport production facilities etc. Chances are the gear will be delivered to site as there is no point it being re-routed to an SI only for them to have to move it again, as would be the case for an upgrade or refurb where a fast turnaround is an element in the process. This is not not a basic single-vendor turnkey build.

There is going to be a significant learning process involved in the design - as this will be a migration from SD SDI to HD/UHD-IP (bypassing HD-SDI), and this will require pretty careful proving and testing processes (AIUI they are taking cybersecurity very seriously)

I'd be VERY surprised if a single SI could or would recreate the entire multi-studio, edit and channel playout area off-site and then move it. Not sure what the point would be nor how this would save time?
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Do Sky Q boxes sulk when it detects an HDMI splitter?

Sky Q is definitely analysing what it is connected up to, so it wouldn't surprise me if they've programmed in some basic checks to ensure the information it is getting looks like a proper TV.

Looking at the status API on my Sky Q box it has information about the HDCP status and the supported TV resolutions, among other things, so it may well be if something comes back on the EDID handshake that it doesn't expect some sort of protection kicks in.


I'd expect it to do both an HDCP handshake and an EDID interrogation. The EDID will tell it what output resolutions (and frame rates) and audio formats to squirt out, and the HDCP will be potentially decide between HD (HDCP 1.4) and UHD (HDCP 2.2) output as well. That's pretty standard for most DRM-friendly receivers and streamers.
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Eurovision 2018

I think it's tricky given that the 1999 contest was held in Jerusalem with no real issues. I know the Israel/Palestine situation has moved on somewhat since then, but there were still massive tensions in the area caused by very similar issues 20 years ago.

However if the EBU (and Israel) can't guarantee delegates' safety (in an acceptable manner - rather than shoot-at-will) then the EBU have a problem.

The EBU don't - historically - get too involved in political issues domestically - otherwise they wouldn't have hosted in Baku (Azerbaijan has a very questionable human rights record), and Ukraine was an interesting situation too (as parts of the country are effectively still at war with Russia)
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BBC Wales Today

It cant be long now until BBC Wales makes the move from leafy suburbs of Llandaff to Cardiff city centre. I was in Cardiff at the weekend and the Norman Foster building opposite Cardiff Central station now looks almost finished. Certainly no small building at all - is it just going to be purely BBC use or shared use with other companies?


I think it's at least a year if not longer away. The BBC have only just received the building from the developers. Now the SIs have to get in to start the tech install.
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Loose Women

JoshX posted:
Imagine if Loose Women had a set like the amazing The Viewhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMmXWI-bxak

Spongebob? On BROADWAY?


Tony nominated no less! Cyndi Lauper wrote at least part of it (She also wrote the music for Kinky Boots)
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Do Sky Q boxes sulk when it detects an HDMI splitter?

My uhd tv dosent even do HDCP 2.2 on the only HDMI port that has deep colour, so on Sky Q the only way to watch 10 bit is to get something which takes the 2.2 converts it to 1.4 to pass it through to the deep colour mode.

I presumed I’ve without realising it knocked off the copy protection?

Of course today’s TVs have no such issue.


No - if you've gone from HDCP 2.2 to HDCP 1.4 on an HDMI 2.0 signal you've still got HDCP 1.4 copy protection. This has been ruled legal in some countries - whereas removing HDCP 2.2 entirely and leaving it clean HDMI 2.0 would be illegal in many places. HDFury sells stuff that does HDCP 2.2 to HDCP 1.4 - as do many others.

You can get solutions that DO remove HDCP 2.2 or HDCP 1.4 though - either intentionally or to save money by avoiding having to put an HDCP output function in...
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BBC News | Presenter & Correspondent Reshuffles

BM11 posted:
Will Ross is now Africa editor.


I think there are multiple jobs with the "Africa" and "Editor" in them

Fergal Keane is BBC News's "Africa Editor' (an on-screen senior correspondent role, akin to North America, Europe, China etc. Editors)

Will Ross is "BBC News Editor, Africa Region", which is I think more of a managing editor type role and skewed towards BBC World Service stuff?
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Do Sky Q boxes sulk when it detects an HDMI splitter?

Sky Q may require HDCP 2.2 if connected to a UHD display, whereas Sky HD was HDCP 1.4 or lower. The former may be trickier than the latter when it comes to splitters.

There are official and less-official ways round this.

(HDCP is the copy protection and isn't the same as the HDMI version - though the numbers are often similar. And as others have said some devices are more 'helpful' than others.)
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Britain’s Got Talent 2018

Just caught the autocue at the end of The D-Day Darlings . It looked so far away. Im not sure Dec even saw it as it went blank.


It’s not unusual for large autocue screens to be fitted with what we call “egg boxes” in front of them. Theyre something akin to those panels that can be fixed to ceiling flourescent lamp fittings. If you view the screen straight on you see the autocue screen information, but if you view it off angle (as perhaps another camera on the floor might) the writing on the autocue screen is shielded off. A bit difficult to describe in words i’m afraid.


Yep - same thing is used to make soft-lights directional - it's effectively a housing on the front of the screen that creates lots of deep diamond or similar shaped 'tubes' that you look at the screen through. You can see the screen fine head on, but when you go off axis, you see the outside surfaces of the tubes, not the screen. It doesn't have to be as deep as one that would just surround the screen so is less obtrusive, and it works across more angles as a result.
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BBC News Channel Presentation - 21/03/16 onwards

You can tell how bad the PQ is at some of the SD sites are when they feature on News Nationwide. Look North Leeds for example despite the studio refit still has their awful cameras.


It was a set refit rather than a studio refit wasn't it? I don't think there were any major changes to the studio - apart from a relight?

The BBC made a 'non ideal' decision in buying Thomson TTV1707 cameras (they are effectively a Thomson 1657 camera with a digital component Triax camera cable system rather than analogue component I believe?). The 1657 was the camera that took TVC into the 16:9 SD era (so is 20+ years old as a design) You have to be careful not to wind in too much artificial detail in them or you can make them look very noisy, and very... French (well they are a French camera...)

The 1707s have not worn well - but they have been in service for a long time... They were the first 16:9 camera most regions had (previously they had done the 14:9 letterbox/pillarbox trick with 4:3 studio cameras)

Millbank had them too but they were replaced when that operation was upgraded to HD. Thomson cameras have never lasted well.

The Thomson 1647s that some regions (and TVC) had in the 4:3 CCD era had known issues that caused all sorts of deterioration with age (usually capacitor related)

AIUI Norwich, Leeds, Tunbridge Wells all got the 1707s - as may other areas. BBC London didn't ever have them as they initially moved to the same site as the BBC training studio at Marylebone High Street which already had similar LDK100s/200s to those used in N6, N8 and N9 at the time (eventually replaced with Sony E30s when the Barcos arrived as the shutters in the LDKs didn't play nicely with the colour wheels in the Barcos). EastEnders was also using LDKs by then. The LDK was a MUCH better camera than the TTV...