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BBC Breakfast - 2018 Refresh

Andrew posted:
Isn’t the BBC Sport set a working sports newsroom rather than just a mock up though? It’d seem odd a show nothing to do with what’s going on around them coming from that space?


There is the second Sport News set which was used for Right On The Money Live (a daytime finance show). It's not hugely obvious that it in a sport newsroom because of the diffused flats.
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Good Morning Britain

Multi posted:
I’ve also known SOT to be known as a sequence on tape, rather than sound on tape.

But tomato, tomato.


SOF (Sound on Film)
SOVT (Sound on VT)
SOT (Sound on Tape/TX)

All of them were/are used in the BBC.
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BBC News | Presenter & Correspondent Reshuffles

Markymark posted:
Rkolsen posted:
I don’t know where to put this. Since I can’t find an overal general BBC regions thread I’d decided to put it here. Is there a BBC English Regions list available where it lists the population in each region either total or certain age. I want to get an idea of how they’d rank against each other akin to the DMAs in the US.


The words 'BBC Region Population' into Google found this

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7747697.stm

10 years old, but good enough I'd say


The data on page 6 of the pdf http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/01_12_08_changinguk.pdf linked to on that site is useful.

Top 5 BBC English regions or Nations by population in 2006 :

BBC London population = 11.5m
BBC North West population = 6.8m
BBC Midlands population = 6m
BBC Scotland population = 5.1m
BBC South = 4.8m

NB this doesn't include the BBC Leeds/BBC Hull operations as separate regions.
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Anglia/East of England News Discussion

dosxuk posted:
noggin posted:
dosxuk posted:

Anglia's news studio history is complex. In the late 80's, early 90's it moved into a new studio on the Anglia House site (called Studio F), in the part of the building that's now a estate agents. When they split the news service into two, they moved it to two more new studios in the former parking garage / ground floor of their Anglia Square site (now EPIC). When they decided to sell that site off, they moved it to two new studios created in the space that was the original Anglia House main studio (Studio A). Nowadays, they only use the one of these studios, but presumably the other half of the original studio is still available for use if needed.


I thought they started the split news operation from the main Anglia House building, and only moved to Anglia Square site when they upgraded their production facilities from analogue composite to digital component in the mid-to-late 90s (and introduced a VR studio for the West?)


I don't know - if they did it will have been with one sub region pre-recorded (as today) because they didn't have the space at Anglia House for both to be live.


Ah - in the early 90s I was under the impression that the old About Anglia studio in Anglia House had been split in two to create two much smaller studios for the first iteration of Anglia News East and West, both live. I didn't think that was from Anglia Square.
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Anglia/East of England News Discussion

dosxuk posted:
Andrew posted:
Was Anglia a region that got its studio split in two, or did they have two studios all along?


Anglia's news studio history is complex. In the late 80's, early 90's it moved into a new studio on the Anglia House site (called Studio F), in the part of the building that's now a estate agents. When they split the news service into two, they moved it to two more new studios in the former parking garage / ground floor of their Anglia Square site (now EPIC). When they decided to sell that site off, they moved it to two new studios created in the space that was the original Anglia House main studio (Studio A). Nowadays, they only use the one of these studios, but presumably the other half of the original studio is still available for use if needed.


I thought they started the split news operation from the main Anglia House building, and only moved to Anglia Square site when they upgraded their production facilities from analogue composite to digital component in the mid-to-late 90s (and introduced a VR studio for the West?)
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Good Morning Britain

Inspector Sands posted:
Oh yeah, I worked in an OOV newsroom for years and then went to a ULAY one for even more years so I got reprogrammmed!

I've also heard 'UPSOT', never been sure what that is, whether it's the same as a SOT or the command to fade up the audio for a SOT.


SOT is a separate clip, UPSOT is where the clip starts as OOV, but you have to stop talking at a certain time to let it turn into SOT (i.e. to allow for an UP Sound Off Tape). Lots of people who don't know better call SOTs UPSOTs...
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Good Morning Britain

Inspector Sands posted:
Whataday posted:
When a soundbite of an interviewee or news/sport clip is used in a headline sequence to tell the story rather than a voiceover, it's referred to as a SOT.

Not just in a headline sequence though. SOTs are any clip in a news programme that has sound that can't be talked over, usually a person talking.

The opposite is a Underlay (ULAY) or cover (CVR) which is picture and sound which is intended to be talked over - a ULAY is an item in itself, CVR is stuff that can be floated on top of an interview


Or if you work at the BBC :
ULAY = OOV (Out Of Vision) - often shorthand for VT OOV, or SVR/TX OOV, but can also be a GFX OOV, an OS OOV etc.
CVR=FLOAT/FLT (pictures you 'float' over). Not to be confused with 'Floating' an item in an order (which means removing it in a newsroom computer system without deleting it or dropping it)

WP = Wallpaper is another term used for ULAY, as is LVO (Live Voice Over) but that's more ITN I think. (BBC Elstree used to use it)

OOV is such a ubiquitous term it's used as a noun ("Have you cut the Trump OOV?") and a verb ("We'll OOV over OS1 until they start the presser")
Stuart and London Lite gave kudos
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Good Morning Britain

Whataday posted:
When a soundbite of an interviewee or news/sport clip is used in a headline sequence to tell the story rather than a voiceover, it's referred to as a SOT.


Not just headlines. SOT is used to refer to any full sound clip that isn't a full package in many places.
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BBC Breakfast - 2018 Refresh

CyberCD posted:
Sport in Salford seem to have mastered using augmented reality - Breakfast would seem like an obvious candidate for an AR "window", where the perspective moves with the cameras.


For it to be AR you'd need to ensure nobody is in front of the window, otherwise you'd need to use chroma key (and hope no guest wears green) or LED screen (and ensure the close-ups are clean or the jib ONLY moves on shot).

Pure AR screens are tricky as you have no way of keying a camera over them, only them over a camera.
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BBC Breakfast - 2018 Refresh

trivialmatters posted:
In a spectacular example of bad planning, the Breakfast studio's real windows face towards the sun in the morning making it impossible to use the real windows in the morning.


Presumably because the studio was planned for North West Tonight who would have prioritised 1830 not 0630 - and Breakfast was a late arrival to the party? (It was part of a second wave of departments moving to Salford, so AIUI not in the original building plans?)
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Off Air Broadcast Feeds

JamesM0984 posted:
I'm surprised at that - Having been present at the Jury Shows in Lisbon this year I was amazed at just how "for real" the rehearsals are (aside from the songs which are of course a competitive performance.) I thought they'd give everything a dry run?


There are two rehearsals or a rehearsal and transmission every day in the final week. The afternoon rehearsals (apart from Saturday's) are not made available via satellite and are 'dry runs'

The Mon/Wed/Fri 2000 shows are full 'dress rehearsals', and are designed to be broadcast as backups if there is a problem with the live transmission. This is technically not quite fully the case on Monday and Wednesday as the show is interrupted to allow for a full-length performance of the Big 5 + host performances, which are then edited down to one minute extracts, and a local recording isn't quite suitable as a backup. As a result there are feeds of the edited backup on Tuesday and Thursday mornings that all broadcasters taking the contest live will record to play back in sync with the live transmission. However the dress rehearsals are as close to perfect as they can get most years.

On Saturday early afternoon there is a non-dress rehearsal, which IS made available to all broadcasters, to give everyone a second go at rehearsing the voting spokespeople sequence (either the Friday or Saturday early afternoon rehearsals may have stand-ins). This is a non-dress rehearsal - so some artists are not in full costume, and haven't been through hair and make-up. In some cases the hosts are casual too.
Last edited by noggin on 25 June 2018 9:50pm
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Off Air Broadcast Feeds

harshy posted:
I think since 2016 Sad it was for me a great way to test HD 4:2:2 content as the bitrate was always 40-50mbps


Think it was nearer 38Mbs (MPEG2 then more recently H264)

Encryption kicked in a couple of years ago. NS4 modulation is now also used on one feed, with two others in DVB-S2 (though there are fewer feeds for rehearsals ISTR)