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Changes to BBC Parliament & Political Programming


It’s a shame that there’s the law of impartiality. Could two channel focused on the conservative parties and labour work?


Believe me - it really isn't. Look at the state of the UK print media, and the US news channels, to see what happens when impartiality in news reporting isn't a requirement. I don't think many people look at the UK and go 'What we really need is Fox News to replace Sky News'...

The US argument that biased news is acceptable because of the plurality of the marketplace ignores the fact that audiences gravitate towards outlets that 'they agree with', and don't get plurality of news provision as a result.

The suggestion of a Tory and a Labour pair of channels really doesn't work in a UK where you have the Liberal Democrats, the SNP, Plaid Cymru, the DUP, the UUP, Sinn Fein, the Alliance, UKIP, The Green Party, the Scottish Labour and Tory parties etc. One of the reasons for impartiality is to stop the polarisation of reporting and the crowding out of minor voices in politics - at least to a degree. We aren't a strict two party system here - we're becoming more like many of the countries in mainland Europe where a mix of parties co-exist. After all we had a coalition government in recent years. (Tories + Lib Dems - who are definitely not politically on the same page)

Of course once we move to the online world - impartiality and Ofcom regulation ceases to apply, Fake News proliferates etc.

It's important not to see impartiality as censorship too - they are very different things.
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BBC Scotland - Flagship News

It'll be interesting to compare the ratings for the Six + Rep Scot, and the Ten + Rep Scot, (both on BBC One Scotland) with the new programme on a less well known channel...
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Changes to BBC Parliament & Political Programming

What is the arrangement for the BBC studio in Millbank? Do they own and staff it or rent it out?
I ask because these plans probably will reduce the use of that studio to around 5 hours a week plus Budget and Spring Statement programmes. Could the plan be for Politics Live to come from NBH - integrating into the New Channel and saving the costs of the Millbank studio/crew?


The Millbank studio is part of the BBC Westminster TV and Radio operation in No 4 Millbank.

The amount of content being made in the main studio isn't dropping hugely. Politics Live replaces The Daily Politics every day, This Week remains, and Sunday Politics came from NBH so the loss of that doesn't change things. I would expect that local election coverage will also continue to come from the studio.

The ability for studio guests on Politics Live to get to the studio from the HoC and HoL is a key reason for retaining it. NBH is significantly further away. (You can walk to No. 4 Millbank from Parliament pretty quickly)

The studio is also - as we have seen in the past - a disaster recovery location for BBC News (i.e. a backup newsroom and studio/gallery)
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Off Air Broadcast Feeds

Wasn't that a Eurobird 28.5 transponder that was used for news contributions now and again (and because News usually use the consumer 4:2:0 rather than the broadcast 4:2:2 format Sky boxes could decode them)
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Good Morning Britain

But you’re comparing the performance in the ratings now against much stronger competition on the BBC. Breakfast was a completely different show back in the TV-AM and GMTV days.


Indeed - Breakfast Time hammered TV-am when it launched, then the BBC hardened it up, and the ratings shifted in ITV's way. Breakfast News was harder news still and gave GMTV a very easy time. It softened a bit in the late 90s, and by the time Breakfast launched, it was ripe for a newer approach. This was also coupled with a move to less formal presentation across BBC News.

Couple the more informal Breakfast with the scandals that hit GMTV (where it was clear a significant chunk of management despised their audience and treated them as nothing more than competition-entering cash-cows) and you can see why ITV Breakfast have had issues ever since.

Piers bumps GMBs share up a little bit when he's on - but it doesn't seem to be building hugely, and it's probably not sustainable long-term.
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Changes to BBC Parliament & Political Programming


The channel has a place, but only when parliament is sitting and at no other time. The rest of the time the space it uses can be made far better use of. How come it has taken all this time to finally wake up and realise this?


Surely it has a place for showing devolved assemblies and the Scottish Parliament too?
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Changes to BBC Parliament & Political Programming

I wonder what the 1000-1030 regional shows' branding and name will be? (Apologies if I missed the name announcement)
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The new NEW Central West and BBC Midlands thread

Woah! Westcounty Live, a lovely set let down by that awful backdrop that is seen through most of the programme - inside I'm screaming just looking at it!


Not sure I'd describe that set as lovely. Apricot and dark wood coupled with a Unicol plasma stand and some bizarre blue swooshes (nodding to the sea?)? Looks like it's been squeezed into a corner too.
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Changes to BBC Parliament & Political Programming

dvboy posted:
"Politics Live" sounds like the sort of programme that might be simulcast on the News Channel, especially since this programme is apparently "at the heart of BBC News's remit". Seems named to fit with Newsroom Live and Afternoon Live.


I thought the same, another hour of BBC Two and BBC News simulcasting from 12:00-13:00 then.

BBC News often takes a decent chunk of PMQs anyway so there won't be much difference there either.


At least they aren't calling it Westminster Live and going for the full 'Back to the Future'...
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Changes to BBC Parliament & Political Programming

I've always assumed that it must be literally only e.g. MPs/politicians/political activists/party members/tedious bores (etc) that have ever watched any of these kind of political programmes*.

Whether that be On The Record, Frost on Sunday/Breakfast with Frost, Despatch Box, Sunday AM/The Andrew Marr Show, Westminster Live, AM:PM, Holyrood Live, Hearts & Minds, Scrutiny, the old BBC Two regional ones like Midlands@Westminster/Viewpoint Midlands etc, This Week, The Politics Show, Daily/Sunday Politics... blah blah blah.

(*Plus also some of us TV pres geeks, but watching for our own reasons obviously. And even we seldom watch methinks, and probably only small chunks of the programme (e.g. around the 11:37-ish regional opt junction in Sunday Politics)).

99.9% of normal humans must barely be aware of the very existence of these programmes, let alone be inclined to tune in to them.


Breakfast with Frost / Sunday AM / The Andrew Marr Show has typically rated pretty highly - so people definitely watch that.

Marr got 1.6m / 27.5% this Sunday whereas Zoe Ball on Sunday got 100,000 / 2.7% ...
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Wimbledon 2018

Cool article. What’s “the Fletcher model”?


https://www.svgeurope.org/blog/headlines/fletcher-group-tracking-system-chosen-for-automated-wimbledon-tennis-coverage/
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BBC Breakfast - 2018 Refresh

Chris Cook has confirmed that it is live. But that wouldn't preclude having a facility to suppress the clock display if the timings are out and you don't want to draw attention to it Smile


Yes - you could easily have a live VizRT rendered title sequence with a live clock and a pre-recorded title sequence from server as an option or backup.