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Changes to BBC Parliament & Political Programming

a516 posted:
noggin posted:
dvboy posted:
I think we were talking about satellite where the screen just goes blue and the now/next says "..programmes start at 7.00pm" on BBC Four.

To be honest I've not watched CBBC in years so I've no idea what it does in its downtime but seems to be a waste of bandwidth.


The BBC are going to be using the post-2100 CBBC HD bandwidth for BBC Scotland HD carriage I believe.

They advertised the HD-only post-2100 bandwidth on PSB3 but it appears there were no takers. They can't sell the bandwidth on PSB1 for licensing reasons. I guess they don't want to increase the bandwidth of other services post-2100 to avoid quality variation.

Not quite.

In Scotland, CBBC HD on Freeview will close at 1900. BBC Scotland HD will run from 1900-0000. SD, other platforms and anyone outside of Scotland will see no change to CBBC hours.

BBC Scotland's other outlets, including HD on satellite and cable, will see the channel run from 1200-0000, of which 1200-1900 will largely be a simulcast of BBC Two with local opt-outs.


Ah - I hadn't realised the CBBC HD hours were reducing in Scotland on Freeview.
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Good Morning Britain

Yep - if it was going to be amazing, schedule it against Theresa May on Andrew Marr...
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Good Morning Britain

Holiding it until Monday is ridiculous. The news cycle will have moved on, and it will have dated. Either that or they know it's going to be a sycophantic love-in and have less news value than people imagine.

What happened to Piers Morgan? He used to be a pretty successful campaigning editor of a socially progressive newspaper, that was pretty left leaning. Now he's a caricature.
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Changes to BBC Parliament & Political Programming

dvboy posted:
I think we were talking about satellite where the screen just goes blue and the now/next says "..programmes start at 7.00pm" on BBC Four.

To be honest I've not watched CBBC in years so I've no idea what it does in its downtime but seems to be a waste of bandwidth.


The BBC are going to be using the post-2100 CBBC HD bandwidth for BBC Scotland HD carriage I believe.

They advertised the HD-only post-2100 bandwidth on PSB3 but it appears there were no takers. They can't sell the bandwidth on PSB1 for licensing reasons. I guess they don't want to increase the bandwidth of other services post-2100 to avoid quality variation.
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Changes to BBC Parliament & Political Programming

Rkolsen posted:
noggin posted:
Markymark posted:

An MHEG holding slide (as used for BBC 4/ Cbeebies down time) takes next to no bandwidth, and the actual AV stream could be quenched.


Sky boxes don't support MHEG5 and I don't think they support text for off-air services...

There are no holding captions - other than EPG - for Time Exclusive services on Sky unless I'm mistaken. I don't know if an OpenTV (or whatever Sky's interactive system is mow called) digital service would satisfy Sky. You could just do a holding caption - but again - that might not satisfy Sky's requirements.

Now would the BBC if simply cease (signing off completely) broadcasting the channel on FreeView and FreeSat would users boxes require a retune when the channel signs back on? Or would they simply show a message unable to tune channel.


They would continue to broadcast the service, but with no audio or video streams in the SDT (which is how time-exclusive services are handled daily here), I suspect, so there would be no need to re-tune.
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Changes to BBC Parliament & Political Programming

Markymark posted:
Rkolsen posted:


As for the bandwidth how much would it take for a holding slide with maybe using the existing audio stream transmitted? I was thinking of just using it to expand incrementally existing channels or a red button channel. However it would only be for the SD channels and apparently according to Digital Bitrate averages 3.4Mbs. Where channels that have a holding slide for part of the day like BBC 4 appear to average low for ALL is 0.5Mbps (and all the time shifted channels ALL lows are 0.9 Mbps CBBC or 0.5 Mbps CBEEBIES). I assume those lows are the holding slide. That would allow extra capacity in BBC A MUX.


An MHEG holding slide (as used for BBC 4/ Cbeebies down time) takes next to no bandwidth, and the actual AV stream could be quenched.


Sky boxes don't support MHEG5 and I don't think they support text for off-air services...

There are no holding captions - other than EPG - for Time Exclusive services on Sky unless I'm mistaken. I don't know if an OpenTV (or whatever Sky's interactive system is mow called) digital service would satisfy Sky. You could just do a holding caption - but again - that might not satisfy Sky's requirements.
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That 1989 ITV ident

Whataday posted:
They were still using a piece of cardboard as their ident in 1988.


Eh - Thames had a digital ident from the mid-80s... The Thames reflected skyline was generated electronically far earlier than people may realise.
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2018 FIFA World Cup Russia

JamesM0984 posted:
If the 26.63m figure is true, then that means it's ITV's second highest audience ever just popped by Hilda Ogden leaving Corrie on Xmas Day 1987.


I think the 26.3m is a peak - so not comparable with average ratings which are usually used?
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Changes to BBC Parliament & Political Programming

Steve in Pudsey posted:
Of course the rest of 4Millbank isn't famed for great power supplies!


Ah yes - remember THAT overnight programme. (Was it a By-Election or a Local Election show that was taken off by a Millbank power failure?)
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That 1989 ITV ident

kernow posted:
This is the ident which is being referred to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSxkvcF6PCo


Wow - was living in the TVS region at the time and don't remember that at all (Though that doesn't mean it wasn't used) I really only remember the cut glass logo that stayed in that form - but my memory may well be wrong. (There were some ITV companies that didn't use the full corporate+regional 'V' branding weren't there)
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Changes to BBC Parliament & Political Programming

a516 posted:
noggin posted:
Rkolsen posted:

It’s a shame that there’s the law of impartiality. Could two channel focused on the conservative parties and labour work?

Of course once we move to the online world - impartiality and Ofcom regulation ceases to apply, Fake News proliferates etc.


Interesting that you mention this, because Ofcom's Sharon White has written a piece in today's Times calling for regulation to extend to cover social media sites https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/it-s-time-to-regulate-social-media-sites-that-publish-news-pxsg9t3fv


I think it's very difficult to argue against. With state manipulation of Social Media on a gargantuan scale, and - in some cases - the near total failure of platform operators to voluntarily address it, someone needs to step in. When InfoWars is deemed equivalent to the BBC you have a problem...

I notice that Russia appear to have been running local news bots for months on Twitter tweeting accurate news initially - but in preparation, it is thought, to start tweeting more biased, less accurate stuff that is advantageous to Putin...
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Changes to BBC Parliament & Political Programming

a516 posted:
It will be interesting to see how the proposed part-year BBC Parliament will work on Sky.

TV Forum readers will be aware that when BBC Three was changed to a promotional service in February and March 2016 following the linear channel's official closure, there was a 'secret schedule' of BBC Three programmes that remained on-air between 0100-0400 every night, in order to meet Sky EPG rules.

With BBC Parliament now set to be off-air for lengthy periods, will the BBC sneak out a few old recordings in the middle of the night to keep the EPG slot. Or it is now the time to make BBC Parliament a red button service, with a red button prompt on BBC News Channel when a live Parliamentary stream is active, thus getting round the Sky EPG slot issue?


I think it would be more likely that Sky would be required by Ofcom to change their rules. Politicians won't want a Red Button only service.