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London Live

Don't know if anyone else has spotted this https://www.ibc.org/delivery/video-discussion-the-rise-of-video-and-the-role-of-telcos/2990.article Unless I'm very much mistaken that's the London Live studio isn't it?

IBC (big UK-run broadcast exhibition held in Amsterdam) is using the studio for some video discussions. I guess it isn't in use that much these days on-air...
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UKTV channels set to leave Virgin Media on Sunday

I think it's more a case of no one being stupid enough to row with Sky (apart from Virgin itself).


There was a recent spat between Sky and Discovery/Eurosport wasn't there? It was resolved but larger companies can, and do, take Sky on.

Virgin and BT both had issues with Sky restricting access to some of their sports channels which also meant they had to take them on (Sky have to be careful not to abuse their position as both channel operator and platform operator - as they are in a very dominant position that could be questioned if they abuse that position)
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The X Factor 2018

DE88 posted:
I've never seen the attraction of Strictly. X Factor is more interesting.


Fair enough... but you're probably in the minority at this stage. Wink


Well I am of course. BARB proves that. But production wise, it's not as slick as X Factor. Bruce aside, it's not evolved from where it was 12/13 years ago.


Strictly has evolved significantly over the years. The production values have increased and in almost all areas the lighting, the staging, the ambition of some of the set piece dances, the projection and LED graphics production etc. have improved hugely.

The casting has improved - of both the celebrities and the professional dancers - and the whole show has a hugely 'feel good' feel.

It just feels like a confident show at the top of its game. Claudia joining Tess as a main presenter has also given it a fresher feel.
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Eurovision 2019

Something that's bugged me for a while...

You know how on the semis BBC Four do their own credits and then a pushback on BBC One, but credit the show with a BBC Studios copyright caption... could this be construed as "passing off" an RTP etc. production as a BBC one?


Just checked back my recordings. The semifinals and finals were handled differently.

The BBC One credits DIDN'T have a BBC copyright caption, just a BBC Studios logo. There was no BBC copyright line with the logo.

The BBC Four credits DID have a BBC Studios logo and a BBC copyright line, presumably because of the original production in the opt-outs which the BBC will retain the rights for.

No - I don't think in the context of the show where the host producerers are repeatedly referred to in commentary, that this could be construed as passing off the production as a BBC Studios one - particularly given the content and length of the credits...
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Cutting the Cord

With the increasing number of apps for BBC ITV etc is it likely or possible that OTA TV will be totally replaced by Apps?


Not sure about 'apps' - but I do see an IP-based future long term. Multicast IP over fast broadband for live fixed TV, on-demand and mobile viewing via unicast.

Multicast will require some legislation though, and decent broadband penetration at a suitable price point. Broadband will eventually be like water, electricity and a phone - deemed an essential for living - particularly as fewer and fewer services will be accessible via other means.
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Cliff Richard High Court Case

I just want to say I’m fascinated by this. But as an American I find the idea of keeping the name of a suspect who has been arrested crazy.


Cliff Richard was NOT arrested though.

His apartment was searched, and he attended a police interview voluntarily.


But was he a suspect or supposedly committed a crime? Surely if they searched his apartment they had probable cause. And plenty of people suspected do voluntary interviews.


I was just clarifying that he was not arrested, so your comment wasn't initially relevant to Cliff Richard's case.

There wasn't a suggestion of keeping the name of a person arrested secret. It was keeping the name of a person who had NOT been arrested confidential that seems to be the issue here (not the method in which it was reported, but the reporting of it at all)

Quote:
Surely if they searched his apartment they had probable cause.


I'm not sure you can jump to that conclusion - though the general public almost certainly will have done by the tone of the reporting of the case (not just by the BBC)

However the Police did have enough cause to continue investigations, after an an initial report, to convince a court to issue a search warrant. I'm not sure that equates to 'probable cause' (I don't think that concept exists in the same way here), just that they had a serious report from a potential victim, who may have appeared credible, that they had to investigate. This was in the context of a number of widespread 'Historical Celebrity Sex Abuse' scandals that all surfaced around the same time.

In this context (well loved celebrity hauled over the coals in public) I can see public support. However the overriding principle does worry me.
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Cliff Richard High Court Case


There is no reason to lock this perfectly legitimate thread. If it's not to your taste you are at liberty to pay no attention to it.

To be fair, what does it have to do with TV presentation? It has strayed into the legalities of journalism.


...which informs the news presentation you see on screen. It might not be directly news presentation, but it is an important contributing factor.


Precisely. All live presenters and reporters need to be across journalism law to do their jobs effectively. That's a key element of 'presentation'.
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UTV - From City Quays 2 onwards

http://www.bbc.co.uk/academy/journalism/article/art20130702112133560

Quote:

Derry

The city and county are Londonderry. The city should be given the full name at first reference, but Derry can be used later. The local council is Derry City Council.


This is from the current BBC Academy Journalism style guide. I think the BBC try to make sure that both names are used in reports to balance the sensitivities though. Where a single instance is being used the Derry-Londonderry compromise is becoming widespread, but where multiple instances are used the BBC style guide advice is probably still better and less cumbersome whilst retaining respect for audiences in both communities.

HOWEVER - you need to be aware of local sensitivities - so describing a Gaelic football team as being the Londonderry team would be a real no-no.
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Analogue TV memories

Weren't the adverts different on east and west too? I think they still are.


Yes - also some ITV regions had more advertising sub-regions than news sub-regions, with the split regional news being enabled as a by-product of configuring their distribution to allow this split.
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BBC News Channel Presentation - 21/03/16 onwards

Any reason why meteorologists change outfits during Countryfile when they are in London? I obviously don’t know the content of the show other than it’s weekly and the presenters dress down.


Countryfile is a rural affairs and farming programme and its hosts wear more casual, outdoorsy clothes, compared to those worn by news presenters. It's not a news show.

As the Countryfile weather forecast is seen as an integral part of Countryfile, they dress appropriately for the show they are appearing in. It's an integrated part of the show. It would arguably look odd if they turned up in a shirt and tie or a suit when all the other hosts on the show are in jeans and open-necked check shirts or jumpers.
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Cliff Richard High Court Case

I just want to say I’m fascinated by this. But as an American I find the idea of keeping the name of a suspect who has been arrested crazy.


Cliff Richard was NOT arrested though.

His apartment was searched, and he attended a police interview voluntarily.
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Why wasn't ITV on Sky Digital in the early days?


Choice wasn't restricted, you could, and I did watch all four versions. A recall a certain Christine Bleakley
who was on Choice-NI as an in-vision continuity announcer.

You're absolutely right - BBC Choice was not nation-restricted. I too remember the "BBC Choice N IRELAND" DOG that was so huge they may as well have centred it...

I thought their DOG was the shortened 'BBC CHOICE NI'? As it made an erroneous reappearance on BBC One NI a few years later.


I think that was a later iteration. Either that or it was "BBC CHOICE Scotland" that was ridiculous big...