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Loose Women

Will ITV launch any sort on investigation into yesterdays events, with a view to looking to see if such an incident can be prevented again?


Have ITV yet acknowledged that there was anything in any way wrong with what the Loose Women production team did yesterday? They are unlikely to investigate unless they think something unacceptable happened. I've seen no reports they believe that to be the case.

It felt to me as if Loose Women were doing 'Celebrity Jeremy Kyle' and ITV seem perfectly happy to broadcast that show day-in, day-out.
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AppleTV 4K and Apple Video Services.

Couldn't you get 48fps up to 50fps with the same speedup used to show 24p movies in 50i? Admittedly doesn't solve the issue of showing it in a 60Hz environment, but better than nothing. I find it a shame they've not tried to do that with any home video releases or TV Showings of the Hobbit movies, and they're either 24p or 25p with PAL speedup. I found the HFR very impressive in the cinema, and it's a shame we can't see it at home.


They won't release a 2D HFR version of The Hobbit (they didn't release it in the cinemas in HFR 2D) - and Blu-ray doesn't support 3D at 1080p50 or 1080p60 - so it would either have to be half-resolution 1080p or released 720p. Neither were likely - and the 60Hz issue is still a biggie.
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The Sport Thread

From London = IMG.
You would assume its an IMG production for (Amazon) Prime, given there's a couple of the usual suspects from the same company produced Wimbledon Championship Live in-house TV channel for the aforementioned tournament.


It's a Whisper Films production at IMG Studios at Stockley Park.

I believe the on-site studio on the main channel is a remote production and cut in the UK, so would expect all circuits to IMG in London to be via fibre to reduce latency (presentation cameras and court feeds)
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Changes to BBC Parliament & Political Programming

The Andrew Marr show moves to 10am when it returns this weekend. Seems a strange decision to me, a little bit late. Most people who aren't politics junkies will be off doing things by then.


I'm sure the fact the BBC are making this change will mean viewers will follow it as the viewers are loyal, and in a few years the idea of Marr at 9am will be as alien as the days the main news was at 9pm.

I find it quite ironic it is happening now when viewers could never find Peston when he aired at 10.


From a personal point of view, I've always enjoyed Marr over my Sunday morning breakfast, and it's been part of my routine for many years, so I'm disappointed it's moving later. 11am's a bit late to be starting to get on with my day, so I doubt I'll remain as a regular viewer.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who has stuff to do on a Sunday, and can't afford to spend most of the morning in front of the telly.


It's an interesting and very valid point. Looking at the BBC One ratings - they have remained in roughly the same area (1.3-1.6m?) 0900-1000 whether Marr, BBC News Channel or Match of the Day, has been broadcast.

It's a good question to ask whether the BBC One audience is more time-specific than content-specific at that time of day. (I'm sure there are Marr viewers who don't wath MoTD and vice versa - but the figures are reasonably consistent)
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AppleTV 4K and Apple Video Services.

. However 48fps videos are also output at 1080/24p, so actually look better in the app.


48fps is a tricky format - as there is not really a mainstream HDMI video format that supports it effectively. 24fps is the least-worst option - 60Hz and 50Hz would both be very nasty.

HDMI 2.0-2.0b added (optional) support for 48Hz over HDMI (CEA-861-F) - but I don't know how widespread display or source support for that refresh rate is. I think 'HFR' movies are more likely to be 120Hz now (as that is backwards compatible with both 60Hz and 24Hz) and that was what Ang Lee did with 'Billy Lynn's Long Half Time Walk' which was shot 120p but released 60p on UHD Blu-ray.
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Jeremy Vine on 5

So the newspaper review will be moving to 11am?


The article was confusing as it said the paper review would be at the start of the show, but would make sense to move it to 11am to allow him to get to Radio 2 in adequate time to prep.

It is a 2 mile trip through busy central London traffic, Jeremy wants to make sure he gets there in time for 12.00pm.


Surely you'd just use a Taxi-bike wouldn't you? (You could walk it in 30 mins)
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Sky News: Presenters & Rotas

Wow, they have some great music over there! Shocked

Glad for Lorna, she was always one of Sky's best. Smile


Great music possibly, but the lighting and vision control? Are they just running with house lights?
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NBC News, MSNBC, CNBC, NBC affiliates and TODAY

It happens with sport overruns as well, doesn't it? Whereas here you'd either have the schedule run late or drop a programme and put in a shorter filler to make up time, over there quite often they just join a programme already in progress. Appreciate it's a much more complicated set-up with the different time zones, affiliates etc.


Well BBC 1 does that every night, into The News Channel. That’s fine for things of that nature, but not a drama, comedy, or documentary. That’s just showing contempt for the viewer, and the programme maker


I remember the early days of News 24 where they tried to opt-in cleanly on BBC One by just sitting on fluttering flags until a suitable junction arrived...
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BBC Oneness - idents and presentation

I wonder if there would move Andrew marr to to 11am?


My guess is Marr moves to 1000, with Match of the Day 0830-1000, if they have to be off-air with MOTD by 1030.
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NBC News, MSNBC, CNBC, NBC affiliates and TODAY


Incidently, interesting that the phrase he used is 'NBC confirms the death of Senator John Mcain'.... as if NBC are the organisation that confirms someones death,


It's a tricky one - you can use the word confirm to mean two different things - it can mean that you are able to verify it, or that you have verified it by checking with someone who can.

"I can confirm that I'm not standing as a candidate" but also "Could someone confirm that with their office please?"

It's made trickier by News sometimes using odd tenses in headlines.
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ITV News


Thank you! What an interesting article providing a snapshot into the state of affairs in the 1980s. The most striking thing for me is the viewing figure for ITN's News at 5.45. Over 13 million!! It seems to have been the most watched news bulletin of the day at that time. Out of interest, does anyone have any similar figures for BBC/ITV bulletins in 2018? It would be interesting to draw the comparison.

I think the highest rated BBC One news bulletin is the 10pm news, with around 4 to 5 million viewers a night. All other news bulletins are below that figure I believe.


The highest rated BBC One bulletin is often the 1830 regional news. This doesn't appear as a single block on BARB consolidated figures as each regional show is rated separately, but as a block in the overnights it regularly out-rates any other news block.

In terms of network bulletins, the Six and Ten vary, so it wouldn't be unusual for the Six to get a higher audience than the Ten some days. In share terms, the One O'clock News usually does incredibly well.

Last Monday :

One O'Clock News 2.1m (37.8% share)
Six O'Clock News 3.6m (26.9% share)
1830 Regional News 4.2m (29.6% share)
Ten O'Clock News 3.2m (23.4% share)

ITV Lunchtime News 0.5m (10.3% share)
1800 ITV Regional News 3.3m (24.7% share)
ITV Evening News 3.1m (21.7% share)
ITV News at Ten 1.5m (11% share)

As you can see both the BBC and ITV early evening regional news bulletins are the most popular news slots on their respective networks.
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Good Morning Britain

GMB has recorded its lowest ratings in months this week, slipping below 500k.

Monday: 493k (16.5%)
Tuesday: 495k (15.7%)

I’m not entirely sure whether you could fairly attribute the lower ratings to Jeremy Kyle presenting or not. His usual program may be quite popular, but I don’t think his style works very well at all early in the morning. The other daytime shows are rating as they usually do, so it’s unlikely that a large number of people being on holiday are affecting the figures.

It’ll be interesting to see whether the ratings go back up to the 750k region when Piers and Susanna return. Too much silliness over the summer might have lost any momentum that they were gaining.

And the Breakfast ratings? It's the summer holidays, they must be low too


Monday and Tuesday last week Breakfast were at 1.5m.

Mon 1.5m (44.2% share)
Tue 1.5m (43.3% share)