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Changes to BBC Parliament & Political Programming


They'd be no reason to simulcast the nations which already have HD variations. I already speculated that next Sunday would be Sunday Politics Midlands as the Tory Conference is in Birmingham.


That's a very good point! I guess we'll get upscaled SD of the non-HD regions potentially then.
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Sky - Comcast takeover complete

Is that how Bill neily went to nbc?


I guess NBC will have been aware of Bill's ITN work - not least because of Deborah Turness's move from ITN to NBC.
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BBC Text on Sky

In my experience the Freeview MHEG5 digital text service is by far the quickest to use on a modern TV. The Sky version is slower, and the Connected Red Button stuff is pretty, but less easy to navigate quickly. (Page numbers are still a good way of quickly navigating to the information you want from a TV remote)
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AppleTV 4K and Apple Video Services.

I dread to think of the Native data rate for 4320 at 120fps uncompressed is.


The irony is that the fibre connectivity proposed is effectively based round multiple 1080i-rate steams (or possibly 1080p). When you drill down into the standards it's 4320->2160->1080 streams.

At 12 bit 4:2:2 you're looking at around 100Gbs (ignoring blanking)

7680x4320x120x24...
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Changes to BBC Parliament & Political Programming

chris posted:
Definitely a recent decision to move Marr to 10:




It’s as if when ITV announced they were leaving the ten o’clock slot, the BBC seized the opportunity. Now where have we heard that story before?


I think it was FAR more to do with the Premier League highlights rules changing this season.

Peston really didn't trouble Marr in ratings terms, and Marr was at 0900 for a long time before Peston launched.

This was almost certainly a channel decision to move Match of The Day to a later slot to increase ratings for it.
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Changes to BBC Parliament & Political Programming

iPlayer for some reason has Sunday Politics North West on the London entry.


That suggests that someone has assumed BBC One HD England will carry BBC London's show, whereas this week it showed BBC One North West's? (They are rotating - as they do with Inside Out - though I wonder if it will only be around the HD nations and regions - Scotland, South West, North West, London and Northern Ireland?)
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Sky - Comcast takeover complete


I do wonder if Sky News will be considered a defacto subsidiary under the NBCUniversal News Group reporting to Deborah Turness for more strategic news gathering services. I imagine they’ll be on the daily conference calls. Now SkyNews is a member of ENEX would the footage (assume in packages) be available to NBC News even though CBS has the US exclusivity?


I suspect any new news pooling/sharing arrangements with NBC would probably change Sky's existing relationships.
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Sky - Comcast takeover complete


The NBC peacock is one of the lost famous and oldest logos in broadcasting, it has recognition in the industry, whereas Sky's corporate identity is very understated


Though equally the NBC Peacock has a huge 'American' connotation too - which may not be good for a European pay-TV operation.
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Question Time

Slightly off the main topic, but perhaps someone can answer a question regarding the cameras used in QT.

Most of them seem to be the same size as those generally seen in studios, yet I have noticed that QT also uses two very large cameras (one behind the audience and one behind the set) which look like the sort of thing you would normally have seen in the 1980s/90s. Shocked

http://i68.tinypic.com/2n6gd4g.jpg


Those are large box-lenses (which are also used in studios - but not BBC News studios where most people see cameras in-vision) which are more common on sports and events OBs and in larger studios as they have much higher zoom-ratios (100:1 wouldn't be unusual and you can go a lot higher than that).

Because they are so much bigger than the small 'ENG-style' lenses often used on lightweight cameras they are either used on 'full-size' cameras (which are a bigger body that can't be operated handheld and will always be mounted on a ped, a heavy-duty tripod or a sit-on crane etc.) or much more commonly in the UK they are used with lightweight cameras sitting in cradles that emulate a full-size camera. The use of cradles means studio and OB suppliers only need to have light-weight camera bodies in their stock and can flexibly deploy the same camera heads in both roles.

Box lenses can have much larger zoom ratios - i.e. they let you get a lot tighter from the same distance - so if you need to shoot a close-up or mid-shot from a long distance, you will normally use one. Where you see the two cameras next to each other, the one with an ENG-style lens will probably only be able to shoot wider shots than the one with the box lens on it. Looking at it, the ENG-style lens-equipped camera doesn't have an operator, so is probably a wide lock-off.

The camera behind the guests peeping out over the top of the set is almost certainly shooting audience questions and reactions (and needs a box lens to get decent close-ups from that distance)

The bulk of what you are seeing is the box lens. Nothing 80s or 90s about them - they now come in 4K flavours Smile

https://www.canon.co.uk/lenses/uhd_digisuper_122/ Here's a state-of-the-art 4K 122:1 lens. That is likely to cost hundreds of thousands of pounds. ENG lenses are usually less than £50k (and sometimes a lot less - but will be much lower zoom ratios - nearer 22:1 or less, but often wider angle at the wide end)
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Evan Davis leaving Newsnight

Although the BBC does now fall under OFCOM's remit that is a very recent development and I don't think there is any requirement for BBC2 to show peak time news. Pretty sure C4 aren't obliged too either.


This seems to suggest otherwise for C4, but not BBC Two?, and details all-day and peak-time news quotas for UK PSBs in 2016

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0019/90703/PSB-compliance-reporting,-2016.pdf
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Good Morning Britain on tv in America and Canada

Well they claimed it was live streamed as it aired in the UK.

https://www.facebook.com/BritBoxUS/videos/261117967849524/


Hmm - that's a bit dodgy.

The Edinburgh Tattoo BBC coverage is recorded over a couple of nights I believe and then edited, and rather than as-live commentary I believe they do post-even commentary in a VO suite.

The show went out on Monday Aug 27th (August Bank Holiday - a public holiday in the UK) on BBC One, as it appears it did on BritBox, but the Tattoo itself ran from 3rd-25th August, so had finished before the show TXed. (I believe the recordings were made approx 10 days earlier...)

The show may have been streamed on BritBox at the same time it was shown in the UK, but the event coverage wasn't live...
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Doctor Who (2018 onwards)

There has been talk about them shooting using Cooke Anamorphic lenses - so it may be wider than 16:9.