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Mouseboy33 posted:
noggin posted:
JK08 posted:
Thursday Today basically reverted to Megyn Kelly's set-up. Small audience as well. Much better in my opinion.
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The US TV industry does love high chairs doesn't it?

I believe it helps to achieve a proper camera angle. So the cameras arent pointed in a downward position and you wind up shooting the floor behind the presenters and not the super expensive video wall and that expensive set that was purchased.


I can understand that argument if you have remote Radamec/Shotoku style panning heads and elevator systems (when rostra are often used to raise sets to counteract the extra height that the remote heads and elevators introduce) but modern, manually operated, studio peds go low enough to shoot decent eyelines at sofa height. (Of course camera operators may grumble at this - but designing a set based on operator grumbles may not be always a good idea)


Raising your hosts will probably give you scope for a wider wide shot I guess - but that style of high-table, high-chair presentation always strikes me as a bit odd.
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Rkolsen posted:
noggin posted:
JK08 posted:
The new L3s are essentially just an adapted version of the CBS Special Report graphics
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Odd that the CBS eye logo appears to be 4:3 safe, but the strap itself isn't - so you have a slightly unbalanced feel with a lot of empty space on the right of frame, but not on the left.

Not terrible - and it's a clean and simple lower third.

Do US stations still assume that any SD legacy feeds on cable will be a permanent 4:3 centre-cut (I know 16:9 SD wasn't really a thing in the US) rather than 16:9 letterbox or AFD-driven dynamic conversion (ISTR that AFDs didn't really happen fully in the US either)


As far as legacy feeds no. However my CBS O&O and I think others still feed their news center cut to the cable and satellite headend even though graphics aren’t. I think my station also does it for the rest of the programming.

There are 16:9 feeds letterboxed in a 4:3 frame. You can use the zoom feature and it will fill the screen. However some of the diginets like MeTV are now transmitting 16:9 and so the station does as well with no intervention or zooming needed. MeTV airs a lot of archived shows filmed on actual tape and because of the aspect ratio they can fill more of the screen almost 14:9.

There are instances of AFD. They seem to be used during commercials mainly.

And the CBS image posted above it doesn’t matter how it’s placed. It’s an online stream.

Edit : Jusf checked my CBS Owned station is how presenting letterboxed 4:3. It must be a recent change as I checked last week.


From my limited understanding of the US distribution landscape - there are some situations where the platform operator decides the aspect ratio (where they receive a 16:9 HD signal and down convert to SD) and some where the station decides (where they supply a platform operator with an SD feed) The former situation could be under station control too if the platform operator followed AFDs and the station (and supplying network? - particularly in the case of Fox) correctly handled them
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How did they make the 2001 BBC World Breakfillers?

TheLewisS posted:
Thanks everyone, much appreciated!

I have a misty recollection of hearing the breakfillers used Macs, due to their media outputs? But that might be wrong.

Thanks again!


The BBC used Macs with broadcast video output cards for BBC Weather and a whole bunch of other uses, so it's entirely possible that a Mac was used to render the overlaid text (though similar cards were also available for PCs)

Macs didn't have suitable outputs as standard AFAIK at that point.
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JK08 posted:
Thursday Today basically reverted to Megyn Kelly's set-up. Small audience as well. Much better in my opinion.
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The US TV industry does love high chairs doesn't it?
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JK08 posted:
The new L3s are essentially just an adapted version of the CBS Special Report graphics
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Odd that the CBS eye logo appears to be 4:3 safe, but the strap itself isn't - so you have a slightly unbalanced feel with a lot of empty space on the right of frame, but not on the left.

Not terrible - and it's a clean and simple lower third.

Do US stations still assume that any SD legacy feeds on cable will be a permanent 4:3 centre-cut (I know 16:9 SD wasn't really a thing in the US) rather than 16:9 letterbox or AFD-driven dynamic conversion (ISTR that AFDs didn't really happen fully in the US either)
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Channel 4 headquarters in Leeds

p_c_u_k posted:
I still feel an opportunity has been lost to have a national broadcaster in more than one nation of the UK, which I would have found a healthy development. NI, Scotland and Wales obviously have more BBC/ITV opt-outs than the English regions but generally talk to themselves, rather than broadcast to other constituent parts of the UK (Wales is a slight exception here due to its drama output). It feels like there's a train of thought that "the north" ends at Salford for media execs in London and Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales are somewhat mystical lands which are dealt with by their own broadcasters, whereas if there is a strength of the UK it's surely having them all contributing to something bigger.

I'm also not sure how much it opens up UK television to those from other parts of the country given that Leeds and Salford aren't a million miles away from each other.

However, I do agree with most on here that it's healthy they didn't just pitch up at Salford and that they went for an alternative location. Very Channel 4. The connection with the channel's first ever show is also a nice little thing.


I suspect S4C's existence probably counted against C4 being partially based in Cardiff.
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BBC News | Presenter & Correspondent Reshuffles

Rkolsen posted:
Bob Paisley posted:
all new Phil posted:
In this era of cuts and money saving, just how necessary is it for the BBC to have a Los Angeles correspondent?


A lot of stories come out of the west coast of the States, particularly showbiz. I think it makes sense to have coverage based there. If you feel the need to cut a post, I think there are other places you can look first.


m_in_m posted:
all new Phil posted:
In this era of cuts and money saving, just how necessary is it for the BBC to have a Los Angeles correspondent?

While a correspondent is based at a location they will often cover other areas in the region. For example Jenny Hill has covered stories elsewhere in Europe whilst being based in Berlin. In the Americas correspondents often end up reporting on stories elsewhere in the continent- presumably either due to the news agenda at the time or to cover for other correspondents.


To be honest I think having a LA based corresponded to cover the western US is good. However having a Silicon Valley correspondent doesn’t make sense to me. Sure he’s based CBS SF Bureau but is he breaking enough news, on air enough or writing enough for a dedicated position in a region that its so expensive? Even the highest paid anchors in the San Francisco stations have a decent commute as the city and surrounding areas are so expensive.

I honestly think a lot of the news could be covered from London. They could fly a correspondent over to cover product launches.

Thursday would have been a great thing for the tech correspondent to cover the Google walk outs but it was handled from London.


If you are talking about Dave Lee - he's a pretty prolific reporter across TV, Radio and Online outlets, and being based in Silicon Valley means he has a much greater chance of doing original tech journalism, cultivating contacts etc. The last thing the BBC should be doing is just parachuting correspondents in for tech launches - they are often the least interesting stories to cover and a typical example of 'churnalism'. Tech stories are far more than new products.

BBC News have Dave Lee and Rory Cellan-Jones as their main tech reporters (based in the US and the UK respectively), with Chris Foxx also reporting in that area too I believe - I don't think that's massive overkill when you have so many outlets to cover and both US and UK Tech stories.

Dave Lee did cover the Google Walkout - but as Rory is the more senior correspondent, and it was a global story, I can see why he would have led coverage on mainstream outlets (Dave was reporting online)

(I do sometimes think this forum makes the mistake of ignoring BBC Radio outlets - like PM, Today, WATO, 5Live, World Service etc.)
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The Yorkshire and Lincolnshire Thread

South Today posted:
You mention Penny Bustin to folk in the eastern counties and they still remember her. Surprising as Stewart and Susie have been the main duo now for 22 years.


Understandably so - the Stewart, Penny and Kim combination was a very strong line-up (even though, at the time, Anglia News was at the top of its game and also providing very strong competition)
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Good Morning Britain

Aaron_2015 posted:

Shouldn’t Susanna’s name be read out first, given that she’s the senior presenter? Or is there a reason why the male presenter’s name is read out first?


If Richard is left of frame and Susanna is right of frame, you'd normally read Richard's name first as you 'see' left to right. (Because we read left to right)

That's a long standing TV convention - less important when you have people of different genders, but very usual when you are introducing people of the same gender without taking close-ups.
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The Yorkshire and Lincolnshire Thread

robertclark125 posted:
And Penny was also a roving reporter for a week on Railwatch in 1989!


And presented Weekend - the BBC East/BBC South and East combined show on Friday nights - which also featured Fiona Phillips as a travel presenter ISTR?

Penny had moved from London Plus to Look East ISTR so was a familiar face to both regions?

(In the 90s the Penny Bustin/Stewart White/Kim Riley presenting line-up on Look East was incredibly strong. Penny left Look East to work in the charity sector, then returned to broadcasting in Leeds, I think via academia)
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BBC Sounds

Inspector Sands posted:

The name has to be something that isn't either - Sounds is a perfectly fine name, I'm not sure what else it could be, iPlayer Audio sounds very generic and dull


Yes - and it's become pretty clear that iPlayer as a brand is massively associated with TV and video content - even the move of radio stuff from iPlayer to iPlayer Radio didn't seem to help hugely. It still felt like an off-shoot rather than a strong audio proposition.

Now that the BBC is pushing much harder in the Podcast arena - I think ditching the Radio tag (iPlayer doesn't have 'TV' in its brand) probably helps with that a bit?
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How did they make the 2001 BBC World Breakfillers?

a516 posted:
The Intelfax service started at the beginning of 1996. I first got access to BBC World in December 1995, when pressing Text produced a "BBC World Text is coming soon" message.

Although there were full sections for sport and business, there was, for many years only a single news summary page on 101, containing three news stories - 1 paragraph each. The first two stories appeared on the 'News Headlines' section of the breakfiller.

Yes - I think that page was typed from a terminal in the BBC World Newsroom
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In summer 2000, the Ceefax news service arrived on 102-124.


That matches my recollection.