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BBC Regional Redundancies


Part of the savings announced by BBC England earlier this year was to use automation more. In the regions that already use Mosart (London and Salford) that meant getting rid of PAs and using the inbuilt timing facilities of the system (as TV News have done for some time).


I believe Plymouth also uses Mosart.
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Two endboard styles

what posted:
And a third on this morning’s BBC Breakfast. Honest to God...

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That looks like someone has modified an existing end board by adding the Monday 7pm in a different font...
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NOW TV


Sky isn't a streaming platform (yet). Now TV is, but they've always been a bit arsey about Multiroom for Sky, as it used to require a phone line connection, but as the Q product is wireless, that's a bit of a non-starter.


The phone line requirement for multi-room was to confirm all the boxes were at the same address, as in all other ways the secondary boxes for Sky SD and Sky HD were fully standalone receivers with dish connections and viewing cards. Without the phone line check it would have been possible to move your second / third etc. receivers to other addresses and sell on your Sky sub at a profit (as the multiroom surcharge was a lot less than a second Sky sub...)

The Sky Q multiroom system is implemented differently - with only the main Sky Q box having a dish connection, and the multiroom Mini receivers have to connect to the main Sky Q box over WiFi (or other local network connections) and aren't standalone receivers that would work with a dish at a secondary location.
UKnews and bilky asko gave kudos
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Premier League on Prime Video

Looks decent on my phone but it only says HD should it not be UHD HDR HLG on a iPhone 12 pro ?


Could well be HD HDR (using HLG or HDR10) - they may restrict the formats to HD on mobile devices?

The BBC iPlayer UHD HDR DASH manifest contains 2160p, 1440p, 1080p and 720p HDR HLG variants for example - it would be relatively easy for BT to deliver a restricted DASH manifest to mobiles removing the highest resolution tiers

The iPhone Max only has an 1170p display - so streaming anything more than 1080p is relatively pointless - and the BT Sport OTT solution may deliver manifests (or select streams in manifests) based on client resolution?

ISTR that the early BT Sport HDR test on mobiles were HD HDR10.
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Two endboard styles

Asa posted:
Just something I spotted the other night, a unique endboard for the forthcoming Marcus Rashford programme shown during MOTD. I'm guessing BBC Sport did the first one but using a BBC One template of sorts.

The regular one appeared after the programme on Sunday night.

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The first one looks like it's been knocked up someone in a BBC Sport edit (or by a graphics op who doesn't usually do presentation elements), using a background with the BBC One correctly burned in, but with no real reference to the BBC One presentation style guide for font (Reith Sans instead of BBC One?), alignment and time format...
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AppleTV 4K and Apple Video Services.

After many years, the latest NOWTV app has launched on AppleTV today, fully equipped with HD, Boost and the extra streams. There's a discussion as to the audio standard availability. Still no catalogue of Sports Replay though although that's common across platforms.


If any NowTV subscriber enables their Developer options on their ATV 4K the HUD playback overlay will clarify what the video and audio streaming codecs and bitrates used for audio are (which may differ from the output format - as ATV 4Ks usually decode to PCM multichannel rather than bitstreaming compressed audio formats)

Does this only work on Apple TV 4K - tried it on my Apple TV 4 (HD only) and it doesn't come up on Xcode.


You may need to connect an ATV 4 to a Mac via a USB-C cable - not sure if the non-4K version appears over WiFi - though I thought it did.

The ATV 4K doesn't have a visible USB-C port - though apparently there is a hidden one inside the Ethernet port - so has to connect to Xcode via WiFi.

Instructions to connect the two are below - at least for WiFi.

https://www.howtogeek.com/409201/how-to-unlock-detailed-streaming-statistics-on-the-apple-tv/
Last edited by noggin on 12 December 2020 11:02am
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Barbara Windsor Has Died

Yes, you can use copyrighted stills and archive footage for reporting an obit under fair use (as I understand it) but you can’t use it forever afterwards on the internet without clearing and coughing up, hence the blurring.


Under UK law you can legally use 'Fair Dealing' on moving content - for the purposes of reporting current events, criticism and review or quotation.

However you can't use that legislation on still images apart from for criticism and review (so you can fair deal a still if you are criticising its quality - say on a consumer programme covering a rogue wedding photographer who had taken badly framed pictures) but you can't just use any old still for news reporting purposes. If you could, press photographers would have no business. AIUI stills always need to be cleared and paid for if required (and not covered through blanket deals) - though news organisations may decide to 'await claim' (i.e. use it and pay for it later if someone pursues it)

Some stills agencies which broadcasters have subscriptions to may well purchase stills for obituary purposes and make them available to their subscribers - but they may have deals that don't allow them to be used online (outside of iPlayer/ITV Hub etc.)

News historically sail close to the wind and claim (I believe) mythical 'News access'/'Fair Use' etc. They don't always follow the letter of Fair Dealing law - but get away with it most of the time I believe.

Non-news shows are often a lot more careful. A strong sign of 'Fair Dealing' is when you see a credit for content that includes the writer/director and distributor/production company, as you have to credit the authors and owners of the original work.
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BBC uk channels on 13e and ITV

What happens when there is sport does it get blacked out?


I don't think so - I think this is covered by one of two things :

1. The BBC 'Cable agreement' that also allows cable operators in Benelux countries to rebroadcast BBC One and Two all the time (though this didn't cover ITV AIUI) - which would involve payment to the BBC.

2. The Swiss have an unusual 'rebroadcast' law I believe that allows any unencrypted broadcast receivable in Switzerland to be distributed within Switzerland - so if they can receive 28.2 on a decent sized dish, they can rebroadcast those signals. (I believe this is traditionally on cable - but I suspect there is no law that says it can't be encrypted satellite)

My guess is 2. (But it is a guess)

They may well be receiving the French stuff terrestrially off-air on the Swiss/French border, and ditto the Austrian stuff. (The German stuff is FTA on satellite)
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Reporting Scotland read out by continuity announcer

IIRC during the 2008 Olympics (or some similar event) Breakfast moved to BBC2, which prevented many of the opts. On that occasion TC7 did a paper review to fill the time, but it has never been standard.

Presumably on the occasion Ballyboy mentions London developed a problem too close to an opt to get a feed from an alternative region (usually Southampton) so they ad-libbed a paper review to fill the time.


Yes, though I think Tunbridge Wells is now the first choice (with notice) if London can't provide the bulletin ?

I suspect part of the procedure is to tell the replacement region NOT to opt, but stay on network, to avoid any comedy howl-round ?

Certainly a few years ago London output is not in the sustaining feed
.... it is opted out like any other region ....


Except during Breakfast when AIUI BBC London is still the sustaining feed during the short regional opts, and BBC London doesn't opt-out locally in London for them (instead Salford cut to BBC London's gallery output).

The reason for this, is that at other times the sustaining network feed (that would go out when regions don't opt-out) would carry the BBC News Channel - but the News Channel is carrying Breakfast at that time of the morning, so between 0600 and 0830 doesn't work as a sustaining feed.

Additionally the version of Breakfast carried on the BBC News Channel 0600-0830 needs something to fill in the gaps during the regional opts, so Breakfast's gallery would need either to fill these gaps with output (I suspect those opts are VERY useful for catching breath, automating new running orders etc.), put a break filler out that worked on BBC One HD and BBC News Channel, or take a region via their gallery.

There will be a strong wish not to have to staff the News Channel gallery to opt-out every 30 minutes to fill the gaps I'm sure...
Last edited by noggin on 11 December 2020 9:35am - 2 times in total
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BBC scraps TV Channel Controller roles

What will be interesting to see is how the budgets for this are re-aligned.

It appears that the BBC is moving away from commissioning to fill slots on channels, to commissioning what they feel are the best shows to commission, and making them available via both on-demand and on linear channels in a curated form (so the channel editors effectively have less input into what is commissioned for their channels, and instead schedule based on what a central commissioning team have commissioned)

This seems to suggest that rather than commissions coming from a channel budget initially - they will need to be funded more centrally - unless the scheduling is still done at the point of commission (which seems to fly in the face of not commissioning for slots)...
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BBC scraps TV Channel Controller roles

What exactly happens with nations and regions commissions?


Do you mean networked commissions from BBC Studios production teams in the nations, or opt-out/non-network commissions from both BBC Studios and Indies that are only commissioned for and broadcast in the Nations?
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Eurosport Player

Not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere - but in Sweden, where the DPlay brand has been present for a while (Kanal 5 - one of the Swedish 'terrestrials' is a Discovery-owned channel, and DPlay is used for their catch-up/SVOD platform) there are commercials running signalling the change from DPlay to Discovery+ there.