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Good Morning Britain

Apparently the ratings were 70% higher than that of the Daybreak finale - so we can estimate 1-1.5 million in terms of numbers.


Overnights for Monday 17th.

0.8m 23.8% share for GMB
1.4m 39.1% share for Breakfast
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BBC News Channel Presentation - 21/03/16 onwards

Complete with breakfast clock. This is more than a sound issue surely.


Probably just a ‘dirty’ recording of the interview is all they could grab at short notice. The problem seemed to be the audio getting trapped into a feedback loop, sounded as if they were trapped in a very deep echo chamber


That suggests that a non-standard source of the recording was used I suspect. There is a permanent 'Breakfast Clean' feed available in NBH from Salford (which I believe is recorded on the standard production systems) to allow for Breakfast interviews to be turned round without graphics.
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ITV News

chris posted:
ITV News often performs better than the BBC if it is moved to 10:30 for a highly-rated 9pm. I’m a Celebrity being the perfect example.

Yes - but that suggests that the BBC News at 2200 is up against one of the most popular shows in the UK (so would expect reduced figures), and the following ITV News inherits that incredibly high audience AND is facing a far-weaker post-2230 competition on BBC One that is hardly ratings gold (so would expect increased figures).
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AppleTV 4K and Apple Video Services.

I dread to think of the Native data rate for 4320 at 120fps uncompressed is.


The baseband video connector looks like a BNC but has 24 fibre cores (or is it 32?)... It's based on HD streams forming 4K streams that in turn form 8K streams.

Back of envelope calculation :

7680 x 4320 x 120 at 4:2:2 12 bit (=24 bits per pixel) suggests 95Gb/s ...

That's around 10 times that of "4K" 3840x2160 at 60fps with 4:2:2 10-bit - which is around 10Gbs, or around 100 times that of our current HD standard of 1920x1080 25fps interlaced 4:2:2 10 bit which is around 1Gbs.

That's only considering active video and ignoring any blanking or audio.

Of course IP interconnects will also be a reality - but they will probably include some mezzanine compression or handle the 8K stream as 4K streams (or both) to get the bitrate down to something that will fit in 100GbE or lower...

(Europe is lucky that 4K at 50fps just squeaks into 10GbE without compression, 60fps doesn't - but the reality is that most people are using some mezzanine compression to reduce the data rates of 4K significantly. TICO is one such system)
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AppleTV 4K and Apple Video Services.

All 4 Arrives



Same terrible picture quality as ever though.
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The Sport Thread

DE88 posted:
The shortlist turns out to have only six names; the bookies' favourite doesn't even finish in the top two - the second year running that's happened - and the classic theme isn't played *at all*, for the first time since God knows when.


Wasn't a section of the original theme played over the opening leading into the Red Carpet intro? Or was that a different piece of music?
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26th Anniversary of the biggest shake up in ITV

There seems to be no audio tracks on 4.8e or at least my receiver can’t pick them up.


They aren't in an audio format that DVB Receivers can handle, as they aren't aimed at DVB receivers.

They are data streams carrying a DAB Ensemble. https://github.com/piratfm/eti-tools is worth a read. Some other satellite DAB feeds use an alternate approach https://github.com/newspaperman/tsniv2ni
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26th Anniversary of the biggest shake up in ITV



My bold, how does Arquiva fit into the picture with SDN? Does Arquiva provide the infrastructure which SDN simply manages?


Yes. Arqiva supply the transmitter infrastructure for all eight national muxes, in addition they also run COM 5, 6, 7 and 8. (SDN is COM 4)

Arqiva seems to be the only ones at 27.5w with their broadcast backup services ooh I love to see what their biss encrypted receiver looks like!


And the Arqiva satellite backups there look just to be for PSB1 and PSB3.

(Astra 4.8E seems to have the DAB stuff)
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Redundancies in BBC News

How would anyone know until the consultation is complete?


The BBC funding 'hole' is bigger than just the Over-75 Licence Fee hole. AIUI there are continued funding cuts (which usually equal job cuts) across the corporation.
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BBC Breakfast - 2018 Refresh

It was on BBC Two in the years before that though, so it’s basically always aired on Christmas Day since it started in 2000

It was the start of the situation where Breakfast became a permanent fixture on BBC One 365 days a year.


Yes - though until the move to Salford there were still two 'Breakfasts' in reality. There was the 'main' Breakfast which ran 5-days a week, and then the News 24/News Channel version which ran on weekends and many public holidays. So at the weekends and on some public holiday 'Breakfast' prior to the Salford move was presumably from the News Channel (or News 24) studio and always felt a bit different (not least because it was desk-based not sofa-based when it was from the News Channel studio)

One of the changes that happened when the programme moved to Salford was that it came from the same studio 7 days week, including public holidays.
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26th Anniversary of the biggest shake up in ITV


Well if ITV drop the PSB provision and no-one takes it up surely the BBC can carry the ball. It has a 24hr channel. BBC 2 on weekdays is a News Channel simulcast and of course there's regional news.


And suddenly we're back to pre 1955, and a PSB monopoly. That won't be good, in what some call
the golden age of 70s and 80s broadcasting BBC and ITV/ITN kept each other on their toes.

The duopoly worked.


Not quite. Channel 4 is a core PSB too now. Sure it's not a BBC One competitor.

However the fact that ITV is the UK's second most watched TV channel and the fact it's got Freeview Lite access and a prime position in the EPG are probably not unrelated.

If ditching their PSB requirements meant they had to leave PSB 2 and went onto commercial Arqiva Freeview spectrum which isn't universally available, their potential audience would drop, which wouldn't necessarily be great news for advertisers.

Would Corrie, Emmerdale, BGT and I'm A Celebrity be enough for people to subscribe to watch them OTT?
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26th Anniversary of the biggest shake up in ITV

Riaz posted:

It is debatable whether ITV should have PSB commitments today or in the future or whether they are an analogue anachronism that should be abolished. ITV is in a funny situation of being a privately owned media corporation with PSB commitments in return for it's EPG position. Should we even have a referendum on the issue?!


ITV are gifted 50% of the PSB2 DVB-T mux (Freeview is still the most watched TV platform in the UK) and a protected EPG slot in return for their PSB responsibilities and their licence payments.

If ITV want to return their gifted spectrum (50% of PSB2) and lose their protected 3/103 EPG slot in return for no longer having PSB requirements, and no longer paying licence fees, I'm sure they will - once it makes financial sense for them to do so?