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Top of the Pops

james-2001 posted:
Strange thing on the 86 Xmas special last night, during the Boris Gardner performance they altered the picture for some reason and it looks very muddy (possibly because of the brightly lit disco ball behind him not matching modern broadcast standards?). Clearly done as part of this repeat, as you notice the captions are affected- as are the pillarboxes (if you were watching on the HD channel or the iPlayer). You can see the brightness/contrast change when Peter Powell appears on screen at the start, and it changes back to normal as soon as Gary Davies appears on screen after the performance.


It's not unusual for TOTP to be edited to reduce the contrast/brightness of shots that fail Ofcom's Photosensitivity testing requirements.

Passing a PSE test, which is usually carried out using a Flashing Pattern Analyser (FPA), is a legal requirement for a recorded show, and so repeating TOTP untested (and unmodified were it to fail) would be a legal issue. (FPA devices used for PSE testing include Harding, Baton, Vidchecker etc.)

Without having seen the effect I can't say for certain but it's not unusual, particularly if there is a large amount of flashing in the shot.
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NOW TV

London Lite posted:

Edit: The AFR feature is also excellent, unlike the Shield where I have to manually adjust it, on Netflix it's changing between 24Hz, 50Hz and 60Hz.


Yes - the lack of automatic, or app-driven, frame rate switching on the nVidia Shield TV is now really annoying. There were suggestions it nearly made the last Shield Experience update but was pulled (alongside Rec 709/Rec 2020 gamut switching). Fingers crossed it arrives soon.

Google seem to have a blind-spot when it comes to frame rates - both Chromecast and Android TV fail badly in this respect. (Kodi on the Shield TV handles frame rate switching OK though) It's a real shame. I guess it's ok to fix at 59.94Hz in the US where people are used to 3:2 (or their TV's remove it)

The most recent Apple TV and Roku streaming solutions handle frame rate switching (and gamut switching) well - with the Amazon Fire TV Stick doing it in some apps (Prime Video) but not other others (iPlayer, Netflix...)
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BBC Breakfast - 2018 Refresh

JAS84 posted:
Yeah, what the heck? Shouldn't that MOTD repeat be on BBC Two?


MOTD is usually repeated on BBC One, and rates pretty highly there. The Sunday morning repeat used to have to be off-air by 0900, but the new deal means the BBC now have until 1030 to finish showing their highlights. (This is one reason why The Andrew Marr Show moved from 0900 to 1000 on Sundays)
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TV Home - Automated recordings of BBC idents

Asa posted:
Yep, it's SD! It's very strange considering One/Two is typically spot on. Four is now consistently out - sometimes triggered during the credits of the previous programme. As they're on the same mux, I'd have thought they'd either all be right or all be wrong.

As I'm not convinced the signal strength would hold up very well by splitting it, I've instead swapped the stick out for a Hauppauge WinTV-dualHD one which is letting me record a second mux. (This did involve the fun of getting out a powered hub and updating the kernel to get the second tuner to work!)

I'm tempted to see if the flag is any more reliable on BBC Four HD. Currently it's being used to trial ITV HD which seems fairly reliable. It's generally on the end of the final trailer just before the ident, which is great. Occasionally a few seconds into the ident or ~15secs before the ident so I may have to upload a bit longer to cover it. Sometimes I do manually adjust the timings and reprocess, but it somewhat defeats the object of automated recordings.


You should only need one DVB-T2 tuner for PSB3 (which will get you BBC One HD, BBC Two HD, CBBC HD, ITV HD, C4 HD and C5 HD at the same time), leaving you a second DVB-T2 tuner for the mux with BBC Four HD/CBeebies HD?
Last edited by noggin on 26 December 2018 10:10am - 2 times in total
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TV Home - Automated recordings of BBC idents

Asa - is that BBC Four SD or HD? BBC Four HD on Freeview isn't coded and muxed by the BBC - so there may be an additional delay introduced by Arqiva? (I'd assumed the EIT p/f was delayed to match this encoder delay, but maybe it isn't?)

If it's BBC Four SD - no idea why!
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BBC News Channel Presentation - 21/03/16 onwards

scoobiesnack posted:
Newsroom posted:
I think the BBC really lacks in the evenings. Tonight for example - nobody in the UK cares about Outide Source.

There is a major incident at LGW and they’ve gone with OS?

Carole Walker is just sat around doing nothing.

Furious about the waste of money.



This makes no sense

Running OS saves money. That's the whole idea of putting BBC World programmes on BBC News. Instead of two teams they use one.


Precisely. A presenter isn't the only thing you need to make an hour of television 5 days a week.
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Anglia/East of England News Discussion

Inspector Sands posted:
Critique posted:
the technical quality of the bulletins from Cambridge is always so much higher than from Norwich, which is fairly unique for a sub-opt!

Though it's not a sub-opt any more is it?


Depends on your definition of a sub-opt.

It's fully split at 1830 - so doesn't opt-out of an opt-out (some people's definition of a sub-opt) All the bulletins from Cambridge are full-opts, not sub-opts.

However it's not fully split at Breakfast, Lunchtime or Weekends - so some people would still describe that as a sub-opt, though I think it's better to describe it as a sub-region or not a full region. Personally I prefer that kind of description as technically there are no (editorial) sub-opts in the Cambridge output now AFAIK (unless they do split packages at lunchtime)
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Anglia/East of England News Discussion

m_in_m posted:
Critique posted:
Noticed that Cambridge even had a camera op on the bulletin yesterday - combined with the animated graphics and better quality cameras (don't Norwich have some ancient beasts?) the technical quality of the bulletins from Cambridge is always so much higher than from Norwich, which is fairly unique for a sub-opt!

Indeed Cambridge were fortunate to end up moving - though they had spend years in very poor facilities that at one point probably was a broom cupboard.


The first Look East Close Up TV studio at BBC Hills Road in Cambridge was the local radio centre cubicle studio, and very compact (and used for local radio duties during the day). It was really only suitable for a single presenter and the wide shots wasn't very wide... It was used for studio interviews during the Election 97 Breakfast bulletins where Cambridge and Norwich split fully (only 5 months after Cambridge had launched)

This was a relatively short term solution until the former radio newsroom on the site had been converted into a larger studio space. (The people who used to work in the radio newsroom had moved into a solicitors building next door as the newsroom expanded to include a bigger bimedia operation)
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The new NEW Central West and BBC Midlands thread

South Today posted:
Mike W posted:
As can be seen in this thread their studio is tiny - a former meeting room...


Midlands Today? That was a purpose built studio wasn't it? Albeit tiny at the end of the newsroom.


There is nothing that you would call a 'purpose built studio' at the Mailbox, at least not for TV.
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BBC Breakfast - 2018 Refresh

Jay Lee posted:
Rkolsen posted:

Here in the US the morning shows on Christmas are prerecorded and have slots for a newsreader to do updated headlines and weather.


If I recall correctly, there are more pre-recorded reports and features, plus BBC News "review of the year" 15-25 minute programmes during Christmas Day and New Year's Day editions of Breakfast.


Stuart posted:
Jay Lee posted:
If I recall correctly, there are more pre-recorded reports and features, plus BBC News "review of the year" 15-25 minute programmes during Christmas Day and New Year's Day editions of Breakfast.

That's not too dissimilar to what happens most weekends on Breakfast. They take plenty of back half-hour fillers from BBC WN and the rest of the NC.


Yes - though these are clearly recorded shows and separate to the live news output.

Rkolsen - are the pre-recorded elements of the US early shows shot on location and clearly 'different' to the normal morning output, or are they recorded on-set with the regular morning hosts 'as live'?
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TV Home - Automated recordings of BBC idents

The DVB standard includes P/F = Present/Following event information - data telling you the name and contents of the show presently broadcasting and the one that will follow. This is used to display "Now and Next" information on receivers. This is separate to the EPG data (Freesat and Sky use proprietary EPGs but DVB standard P/F)

I think the full name of the data is "EIT p/f actual"
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TV Home - Automated recordings of BBC idents

Orry Verducci posted:

As far as I've been able to tell ITV do send EIT P/F information triggered from playout, so there's a good chance of making it work. The only thing is last time I looked I think they triggered it at the start of a programme, not the start of the ident like the BBC do, but that may well have changed (especially now they both fall under Red Bee).


The BBC trigger P/F changes on the ident (not the programme) so that the recording contains any content warnings voiced over the ident. Similarly the P/F changes at the end of the show follow the content that follows the end of the programme so that any post-show Actionline or similar announcements are also included in the recording.

It could be ITV has taken a different view. I don't know if this decision would be Red Bee's to take.

Also the BBC change from 2.0 to 5.1 audio on the ident, not the programme start, to avoid brief muted audio at the top of the programme (which often happens with 2.0/5.1 switches) (ITV don't support 5.1 audio at all...)