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Eurovision 2019

JamesM0984 posted:
That's not platform specific - it's normally well after 19:05 UTC before I can access it via my Android Smart TV. I know they take the Geoblock off especially but you would think there'd be a simple "Watch SVT1" option, with a blackout message on until 19:00.

Conversely, YLE Areena ran like a dream for UMK tonight.


Ah - for a long time SVT had separate live streams of Melodifestivalen separate to the 'Kanal' feeds which weren't geoblocked, and the Kanal streams remained geoblocked for the duration.
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Top of the Pops

Markymark posted:
During the same era there were the BBC 2/Radio 1 ‘Sight and Sound in Concert’ simulcasts. None of those were live, and the audio tracks for Radio 1 were dubbed to 1/4 inch tape which was played out from BH on a machine slave locked to the VTR at TVC. It was partly for <cough> industrial reasons, but also because the audio tracks on 1 inch were hardly stunning in quality. It’s possible similar was done for TOTP ( for quality reasons) I think all the TOTP simulcasts were live though?


I have a feeling that at least one R1/BBC TV simulcast was either from PCM 1" or a slaved 3/4" UMatic PCM recording as a lot was made of the Jarre Concert 'Rendezvous Houston' being played out 'digitally' at the time.
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Top of the Pops

Markymark posted:

I suspect in this instance it was a TVS type scenario, rather than a YTV one Cool


My guess is that the original master tape was due to be broadcast mono from track 1 only, with audio also present on track 2 that wasn't intended for broadcast at the time which may have been out-of-phase with track 1.

When the 1" was archived to D3/DigiBeta/LTO etc. both audio tracks would have been ingested. It could be that for the recent repeat both tracks were TX-ed in error, rather than track 1 being used as a mono source.
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BBC News Channel Presentation - 21/03/16 onwards

Rkolsen posted:
Newsroom posted:
Rkolsen posted:

HardTalk has been coming from A lately ever since 100 Days + launched.


HardTalk came from D this week. A right royal shuffle.


Sorry, I got my studios screwed up. It’s been in D since a 100 Days +. My mind was thInking that since BBC London News launched first at NBH that it was studio A.


A is the green-screen studio used for VR.

When BBC London News moved from Marylebone High Street to NBH they were in a temporary studio in the space originally designated for the BBC Shop, that space was then re-allocated to The One Show.

Studio D (BBC London's current studio) wasn't ready by the time The One Show needed the space, so BBC London did move into Studio A as an interim solution for some of their bulletins ISTR.
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Top of the Pops

james-2001 posted:
Some strange sound mixing on last night's BBC4 episode as well, again something that presumably wouldn't have been noticed originally as it would have been in mono.


By this time it may well have been radiated in NICAM stereo from Crystal Palace. I think tests started in 1986 (but at that time the audio didn't always match the programme content - but pretty soon it did) We were listening in NICAM using a DIY upgrade to our Philips VHS HiFI VCR years before the official launch.

So a few people may have heard it Smile
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Achieving that VHS look

bluecortina posted:
Technologist posted:
I would say more to the BBC matrix than anything else ....
which got life like skin tones....
See " brief history of colour television .."
at http://www.tvstudiohistory.co.uk/old%20bbc%20studios.htm

Although I would say that LDK 5 looked a bit more saturated generally ...
And "cleaner"


I don’t quite know why that website says LWT cameras were not fitted with a’matrix’, all the cameras I worked on did - EBU, until the Ikegamis arrived then it all became user tweakable to suit.


I think Martin is referring to the LWT cameras not being equipped with the BBC matrix as 'a special' (which some other ITV companies also used) - but he didn't mean that didn't have a matrix at all (as all decent cameras needed a matrix to even out the camera RGB responses etc.)
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Channel 4

Whataday posted:
"Channel Four moved to tapeless programme delivery on October 1st 2014"

Was anyone still delivering programmes on videotape at that point?


Yes - all the major UK broadcasters were still HD Cam SR (HD) or DigiBeta (SD) tape for master delivery at that point. File based delivery only arrived with the DPP AS11 standard - which was kickstarted by the Japanese Tsunami knocking out the main HD Cam SR tape factory/ies, causing a world-wide SR shortage (The BBC started rationing stock and allowed recycled tape to be used for archiving)
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Achieving that VHS look

Technologist posted:
I would say more to the BBC matrix than anything else ....
which got life like skin tones....
See " brief history of colour television .."
at http://www.tvstudiohistory.co.uk/old%20bbc%20studios.htm

Although I would say that LDK 5 looked a bit more saturated generally ...
And "cleaner"


The EMI2001 'look' is unmistakable though - even when compared to other 'BBC Matrix' cameras. (Though I agree the BBC matrix and BBC black stretch also made BBC pictures distinctive)
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Achieving that VHS look

OboeShoes posted:

- Saturation is strange. The extreme ends of the colour spectrum tend to be represented pretty well in PAL, but mid-tones (particularly skin) can look pretty washed out. NTSC also has the tint issues that plugins usually over-do.


Beware thinking this was specifically because of PAL. A lot of UK TV shot in the 70s and 80s was shot on EMI2001s which had a very particular look (partially because of their 4-tube processing and sourcing luminance information from both the RGB tubes and the Y tube) The EMI-look gave very distinctive, pale, flesh tones. This was nothing to do with PAL - but everything to do with EMI pictures.

If you look at a Philips LDK3/PC-60/PC-80 or LDK5 PAL output from the same era - the faces are much more saturated.
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TV Player

London Lite posted:
A tiny bit of good news that I discovered, BBC One and BBC Two are now in 1080p. No change to BBC Four, CBBC, CBeebies and BBC News which are still SD.


Are the 1080p25 or 1080p50 ? Whichever they are they are likely to be 1080i->1080p deinterlaced conversions - as the BBC don't run BBC One and Two in 1080p. (The iPlayer streams are 1080i25->720p50 cross-conversions)
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International News Presentation: Past and Present

Brekkie posted:
Hasn't The One Show as well?


The One Show titles were revised subtly when they moved to their current studio (the surface of the 3D logo went from a flat grey to a more convex shiny look), but essentially are largely unchanged since their London launch in mid-2007. The music was tweaked slightly just after launch.
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BBC Scotland channel - service to also launch in HD

Richard posted:

Unlike UTV Ireland, however, it doesn’t have to be commercially viable.


Indeed - however no domestic BBC channel is commercial, so none of them are (or need to be) commercially viable in the strictest sense.
Last edited by noggin on 24 February 2019 11:51am