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How did they make the 2001 BBC World Breakfillers?

BBC News 24 did in the early days too.


Yes - during the N9 News 24 flags era there were very short interstitial bumpers/blips between promos - which were small flag animations in the centre of a black frame. They pushed the automation system quite hard.
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Good Morning Britain

For info :

Monday 11th March
Breakfast 1.5m / 41.2% share
GMB 0.8m / 23.8% share Lorraine 0.8m / 19.5% share

Friday 8th March
Breakfast 1.4m / 38% share
GMB 0.7m / 21.1% Lorraine 0.9m / 21.6%

Thursday 7th March
Breakfast 1.4m / 37.8% share
GMB 0.8m / 22.2% share Lorraine 0.9m / 20.1% share

Wednesday 6th March
Breakfast 1.4m / 37.8% share
GMB 0.8m / 22.3% share Lorraine 1.1m / 25% share

Tuesday 5th March
Breakfast 1.5m / 40.3% share
GMB 0.8m / 22.9% share Lorraine 1.0m / 22.4% share

Monday 4th March
Breakfast 1.5m / 39.3% share
GMB 0.8m / 22.9% share Lorraine 1.0m / 21.7% share

23.8% is a good share for GMB, but it doesn't look to be a gain from Breakfast who also did pretty well in share terms at 41.2%, so I guess GMB are picking up some audience from elsewhere?

I expect GMB have given up on trying to beat Breakfast in ratings and share terms (if they ever had that as an objective?), and instead are trying to maximise their commercial advantage over other advertiser-funded channels?
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Eurovision 2019

Wow. That's pretty epic to be fair, I know Swedes speak better English than we do but that's still pretty incredible that they can put a VT put in English and the audience will get it.


Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland and the Netherlands have near universal English speaking populations. English is almost an equal-first language there, not even a fluent second language.

In Norway they don't even burn in Norwegian subtitles for English language shows - they are optional (just like English subtitles are here)
Last edited by noggin on 10 March 2019 10:27pm
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NOW TV

Live streams still appear to be 720p/25 or SD at the moment.

However, I've noticed some improvement in some of the VOD content on the Cinema Pass. That may be down to it being 720p/50fps rather than being 1080p.

As I type, I currently have Citizen Khan through the 4K box on VOD and that seems to be 720/50.


I thought Citizen Khan was shot 25p? (Wasn't it one of those odd 'studio sitcom but 25p' shows - or am I misremembering? Interesting that Sky have picked that up for VoD too)
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NOW TV

Considerable speculation that some Movie feeds are being fed out on some platforms in 'Full' HD now. Not fully convinced myself currently. (My viewing is via the AppleTV Beta at the moment, so I can't confirm on a live commercial stream, I've disconnected my NOW and Roku devices at present)


If you can, enable the developer HUD on Apple TV. That will tell you what the Apple TV h.264/h.265 decoder is being fed in resolution, frame rate, bit rate, dynamic range terms etc. You do need a Mac with Xcode installed to do that ISTR - and possibly a free developer account.

It's very useful for seeing what the various OTT apps are being fed from upstream (Amazon Prime Video can often be half the bitrate of Netflix for UHD content...)
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20th years since NAT was first dumped

The Queen Mother was 101 years old by 2002, you would have thought the BBC would have had plans in place for announcing her death properly with dignity, instead they had Peter Sissons staring into the camera, as if he had been in the toilet, and was dragged out of it mid-way and rushed into the studio with the news report shoved into his hand.


Don't infer from what happened that the BBC didn't have plans...

Instead infer from what happened that the BBC decided not to follow them.
UKnews and Steve in Pudsey gave kudos
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Alex Trebek has cancer

rob posted:
Very sad to hear this news. Jeopardy! is (in my opinion) the finest gameshow ever created.

Quiz show surely?



I'd still call it a game show - as it's based on a cash prize element. That's always been the separating factor to me between a game show and a quiz show (though that might just be me!).

For me Millionaire and Jeopardy are game shows, Only Connect and University Challenge are quiz shows.
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Alex Trebek has cancer

I think the issue with Jeopardy is that in the US its main selling point is that it's the intelligent quiz show. Over here we've had Mastermind, 15 to 1, Countdown, University Challenge etc. It's not quite got the same unique appeal


Yes - plus it still has the cash prize element of a game show - which UK 'intelligent' quiz shows don't really do.
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Alex Trebek has cancer

They did have a University Challenge thing over there I think?


University Challenge is a remake of the original US 'College Bowl' show I think. It stopped decades ago in the US.
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NOW TV

I wonder how closely linked SkyX and the long-awaited Dishless-Sky are - and whether the latter will actually happen post-Comcast?

It looks to me as if SkyX is a new take on NowTV (no ISP tie-in so unicast not multicast?). Be interesting to see how good the quality is.

If it's using DASH adaptive streaming peaking at 1080p50 or 720p50p (like iPlayer, ZDF Mediathek, some of the CMore live streams etc.) then it may be a go-er. If it's 1080p25 or 720p25 then it's not going to be a direct replacement for some of us and will have the same issues that Amazon TV channels has of sub-par motion for sport, entertainment etc. (Strictly at 25p is horrible...)

1080p50 HEVC/h.265 seems to need around 3.5Mbs - peaking at around 8Mbs - for 'emission quality' in Germany on DVB-T2. The 2.5Mbs may be to support be the lowest DASH bitrate it uses I guess (SD/540p?) - but may offer higher quality at higher bitrates.

Will be interesting to see.
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BBC News at 10 to be shorter

Asa posted:
But you are saying they’ve axed it altogether. I think the Beeb have bitten off more that they can chew in that case, you can mess around with many things, but mess about with the weather...

There was a national forecast as normal with Sarah Keith-Lucas, just Spotlight didn't take it. Can't see them getting away with that for very long otherwise surely every region would be doing it.


Apparently a few regions are piloting a combined regional+national forecast after the regional news, rather than the split regional+national approach with two presenters currently used. The pilot is approved and not them going rogue.
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Streaming/Linear?

I personally don't understand the BBC & ITV's desire to have its own Netflix. Everything I've seen so far suggests the real money to be made is in production, and this was clearly ITV's strategy for some time. Britbox seems to go against this.


The BBC presumably want to compete with Netflix and Amazon's 'long tail' - and make content available for longer, in return for a subscription that covers their costs (with any 'profit' going back to subsidise the licence-fee funded service).

There is a Public Service argument for allowing viewers to watch archived shows for a cost-covering fee (which aren't free for the BBC to make available)