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james-20014,333 posts since 13 Sep 2015
Central (East) East Midlands Today

Coronation Street

You can understand why they skipped over the 23rd December episode, after messing up with the episodes yesterday they presumably didn't want to complicate things and confuse viewers more by showing the 23rd December episode today and showing a further episode out of order. Easier just to continue from the 27th. It is annoying to have lost that episode though, especially as it's the one where the Platts actually move into number 8.
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james-20014,333 posts since 13 Sep 2015
Central (East) East Midlands Today

Coronation Street

Has that ever happened before: continuing drama episodes aired in wrong order? Only example that springs to mind is Crossroads, not that the viewing majority noticed. Very Happy


Probably not happened in the original broadcast, but may well have happened on repeats. I know G+ put out the wrong Corrie omnibus edition one week, if that counts, showing it several weeks earlier than they should have (which I guess gives a clue to how far ahead G+ edited the episodes- there's presumably several weeks of 1994 episodes they edited which never got shown!).
james-20014,333 posts since 13 Sep 2015
Central (East) East Midlands Today

Coronation Street

Regarding what was originally the first of the Christmas Day episodes, which scene immediately followed the Queens Speech on the original broadcast?

I understand G+ swapped round scenes to disguise the “gap”, inserting the Alma and Mike scene in between. On ITV3, we went from Alf turning on the TV to Alma and Mike, so I’m unclear as to what scene (if any) ITV3 omitted or how they disguised the gap.


As I already said in the post above, they cut out the scene where Alf got up and turned the TV off. The two scenes that G+ swapped around were shown in their original order.
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james-20014,333 posts since 13 Sep 2015
Central (East) East Midlands Today

Coronation Street

It's possible there being two episodes dated 25th December 1991 is what caused today's mistake.


Maybe, but how does that explain how they'd miss the 23rd December episode too? Plus the two 1991 episodes would be identified for their correct order by their production codes (Corriepedia says the production codes for those episodes are P694/2332 & 2333, and 2331 for the 23/12/91 episode), I imagine that's how they're catalogued).

I've set to record the 6AM repeats anyway, just in case they show the 23rd episode there.

Overreacting is a DS speciality anyway.
james-20014,333 posts since 13 Sep 2015
Central (East) East Midlands Today

Coronation Street

Looks like ITV3 handled the queen's speech gap differently to G+. Rather than swapping scenes around, they cut out the scene of Alf turning off his TV after the queen's speech, and the advert break was inserted much later in the episode (where G+ had the Part 2/3 split).

Heard a quick blast of the ITV Generic ident music coming out of Alf's TV as well which wasn't on the G+ version.

Interesting that the End Of Part One/Two/Three captions on the Granada Plus version look genuine and not mocked up as well (albeit the backgrounds for the break captions they didn't come into use until 1992) possibly implies G+ used a version made for international export (especially as there weren't any episodes with an end of part 2/Part 3 at the time G+ could have taken the captions from- and the mocked up captions they used on their omnibuses used a different font), along with the different music coming out of Alf's TV (maybe the 1989 ITV generic theme couldn't be cleared for broadcast outside the UK?).
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james-20014,333 posts since 13 Sep 2015
Central (East) East Midlands Today

Coronation Street

Didn't Bettabuy become Freshco?


No, Curly left Bettabuy in 1994 (apparently because the new Sunday trading laws came into effect and stopped them being able to use the branch of Morrisons for filming any more), briefly moved to Superscoops, then to Firman's Freezers- which apparently is what became Freshco (even though they were represented by entirely different shops on screen- Firman's was a Farmfoods, Freshco was a Somerfield which was about triple the size).
james-20014,333 posts since 13 Sep 2015
Central (East) East Midlands Today

Coronation Street

I haven't got round to watching my recordings yet, but today's episodes were due to be the 23rd December and the first Xmas 1991 episode? The second Xmas 1991 episode should be on tomorrow. Unless they've somehow changed that at the last minute.

Granada Plus showed the Xmas 1991 episode uncut anyway (bar the couple of scenes being swapped around where the queen's speech originally was, but that may well have been an edit made for international export anyway)- they didn't have an Emmerdale that day to make up for the episode's longer running time (conversely, G+ quite frequently didn't have Coronation Street episodes around this time to make way for the numerous hour long Emmerdales in the late 90s/early 00s)
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james-20014,333 posts since 13 Sep 2015
Central (East) East Midlands Today

Top of the Pops

More than likely they finally got their branding consistent with the 1997 BBC rebrand.


Let's remember the BBC weren't exactly consistent which phasing out that old logo anyway. The new BBC logo first appeared on things like the BBC Sport ident and some regional news titles in 1988, but the old logo was still being used almost universially (with a handful of exceptions) throught 1989 on copyright captions. Some shows, like Eastenders (funnily enough) and Top Of The Pops were using the new logo from their first episodes of 1990 (still using the old one until the final editions of 1989), but there's plenty of shows from much later in 1990 still using the old logo on their copyrights, and even some post-1990 examples too.

Seems pretty unthinkable these days for there to be a long changeover between logos, even in 1997 the old logo vanished virtually overnight, apart from some programmes already in the can (and EastEnders kept it until the end of the year as well) and some signs on buildings which took longer to change.
james-20014,333 posts since 13 Sep 2015
Central (East) East Midlands Today

Top of the Pops

To be fair, you can tell the canned applause on the regular episodes too, especially as it was always the same recording over and over. They changed the recording every few years, but you still got familiar with it very quickly. The mid-80s episodes it's very obvious as it begins with a whoop and has someone whistling a few seconds in, and it's played several times every edition.
james-20014,333 posts since 13 Sep 2015
Central (East) East Midlands Today

Top of the Pops


Sorry I missed the chat for this, what was this pilot for?


The new revamped format, made while the show was off air for 2 months during a musician's union strike.

Made on the cheap with a ramshackle set and by getting members of the crew to stand in as various musical acts.

Quite laughable viewing in many parts (epecially as the Number 1 is just a still photo of Olivia Newton John moved around the screen occasionally) though of course it was never intended for broadcast.
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