imaginativename's posts, page 7

The NEW Central West and BBC Midlands thread

On the point about the camera feeds. Not sure whether we have a live image in the North-West or not, but I have certainly seen a giant spider web being woven during the course of a bulletin and I seem to remember a giant pigeon too! Maybe it's not live to avoid that kind of thing, though it is quite amusing!

BBC News branding has become a mess?

Oh and one more thing....on the point about Newsline having a different scheme to distance itself from Britain...that can hardly be right. If they were trying to appeal to Republicans, would Northern Ireland really be shown as being severed from the rest of Ireland, as though it were an island?! Just a tad more provocative than the colour scheme!

BBC News branding has become a mess?

I'm glad this irritates other people and not just me. It's so sloppy. Surely a lot of effort and fine tuning goes into the creation of these images, like the news titles. Is it a case of people who are too stupid to notice such obvious inaccuracies or people who just don't care, allowing them to get through? I wrote to Newsline about the awful BBC logo there not long after they changed the look. I didn't receive a response. I cannot believe that people involved in the production of this programme haven't noticed so obvious a glitch. In the North-West, we used to have pink BBC ONE boxes before the news or boxes that were impossible to read because the letters were blurred (wasn't my tv). To me it sends out a message of 'can't be bothered/don't care to get things right'. The BBC logo is not the most complex logo in the world to reproduce accurately, is it?

The inconsistency as well as the sloppiness annoys me. I don't think it's a bad idea to have varied styles of logo for different channels as long as there is an element of consistency, but if you put them together, they look a mess, especially the international channels, where the BBC boxes are a different size on each logo and in different positions around the logo. I don't see the need for variations on the same logo either - the current stacked BBC one just looks awful because nothing is alligned, and what is its purpose - could the normal version not be easily used in its place, or if a box is really that desperately needed, could a rectangle not have been made so that the BBC logo didn't need moving on top of the one?

Grrrrr!!!!

Also another thing which is vaguley related. Whenever I watch the national news on BBC one, during the opening titles, there is always a jerk in the sequence at some point as they play out. It happens on every tv in my house, on the tv in my brother's house, and on my tv at uni, so I know it isn't my tv at home! What causes this?

BBC North West Tonight

The red and black studio has brought back a memory of Changing Rooms when Laurence LLewelyn-Bowen decorated a room in red and black and the owner got really annoyed, complaining that he'd made her house look like a brothel. Maybe NWT is going raunchy?

The CBBC Thread

I think this new logo looks quite good. The fuss is nonsensical. There is only so much you can do with a 'C' on its own, and two different variations have been done already, following on from a very boring C stuck before the boxes. Time for something different which doesn't involve spelling out 'Children's' or basing the logo entirely around the BBC boxes. The BBC letters fatten the logo out to make it into something visually engaging (in a way that a single C doesn't really do) whilst not relying on the BBC boxes to form the bulk of the logo. Then the box logo is needed in addition so that this is something instantly recognisable as a BBC product. The boxes are not superfluous - there are other businesses which use the letters BBC in a different style (like Blackburn Brakes Components) for example, who have large BBC letters on their office front! The boxes are instantly recognisable and bring the logo in line with every other BBC channel and station which has them. What's the problem? Only a complete idiot would read CBBCBBC - the way the logo is spaced out makes it obvious that it is not meant to be lumped together like that. Right, I think I'll go and watch BBCNEWSBBCWORLD...

The CBBC Thread

I think this new logo looks quite good. The fuss is nonsensical. There is only so much you can do with a 'C' on its own, and two different variations have been done already, following on from a very boring C stuck before the boxes. Time for something different which doesn't involve spelling out 'Children's' or basing the logo entirely around the BBC boxes. The BBC letters fatten the logo out to make it into something visually engaging (in a way that a single C doesn't really do) whilst not relying on the BBC boxes to form the bulk of the logo. Then the box logo is needed in addition so that this is something instantly recognisable as a BBC product. The boxes are not superfluous - there are other businesses which use the letters BBC in a different style (like Blackburn Brakes Components) for example, who have large BBC letters on their office front! The boxes are instantly recognisable and bring the logo in line with every other BBC channel and station which has them. What's the problem? Only a complete idiot would read CBBCBBC - the way the logo is spaced out makes it obvious that it is not meant to be lumped together like that. Right, I think I'll go and watch BBCNEWSBBCWORLD...

BBC North West Tonight

I think part of the problem is that UK geography has become so confused by changing administrative areas. "Cumbria" was created in 1974 solely for administrative purposes. It covers 4 historic counties - part of Yorkshire, Cumberland, Westmorland and North Lancashire. Isn't that why parts of the area are included in NWT? Barrow, all the way up to Lake Coniston is part of Lancashire, just no longer the council area of the same name, so makes sense to be covered along with the rest of the county, and separate to Cumberland which is closer in identity and geography to Northumberland. As for Derbyshire, when they created Greater Manchester, I think some bits of Cheshire became detatched from Cheshire County Council and so were put under the administration of Derbyshire CC. I think this must partly account for the apparently odd boundaries.

It really annoys me that the BBC insist on referring to administrative areas as geographical areas when they change so often! People from Blackburn are no longer announced on NWT as being from Lancashire just because the councils have changed. The historic county has never been abolished!

http://www.abcounties.co.uk/counties/map.htm
http://www.forl.co.uk/003/confuse.html

Two new idents for BBC ONE

Has anyone noticed just how circular the space ident is? Every shot seems to have a circle of some sort in it, from the opening shot to the planet, the circles on the wall of the control room, the parachute, glowing circular thing in the control room, the camera, the craters - circles everywhere! I thought at first that this ident was a bit odd because the clip is less related to the fomation at the end than in the other idents which show the parts of the circle coming together, but the clip in this one does relate to the circle in that the control room controls it and the circles on the wall and on the screen appear to be a plan of the camera's circular course - very clever!

New BBC America idents

Why do the new idents not have the BBC logo on them or even the name of the channel? Seems a bit odd in comparison to the other channels...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoFIAR5yXm0&mode=related&search=

BBC Two Rebrand and Onwards

I think people are missing the point complaining about sunroof being jumpy etc - if it were smooth it would loose the querky feel that all of these idents have in common. The same goes for the music - it has been matched to the mood - some dramatic jingle would be totally out of place. Everyone seems to rant and rave about the 90s two idents but these didn't have dramatic music did they?

BBC Two Rebrand and Onwards

I think people are missing the point complaining about sunroof being jumpy etc - if it were smooth it would loose the querky feel that all of these idents have in common. The same goes for the music - it has been matched to the mood - some dramatic jingle would be totally out of place. Everyone seems to rant and rave about the 90s two idents but these didn't have dramatic music did they?

BBC Two Rebrand and Onwards

I think these idents are great, especially Zoetrope which has that spooky aura of the pre-yellow and purple idents. However, I cannot stand the box - why on earth did they keep it? All the channels are going to end up really inconsistent - BBC one does its own thing, News 24 has reverted to the pre-box style and now BBC TWO has this thing...the box lets them down, and the 'Next' thing is deadful.