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Worzel4,594 posts since 8 Jan 2008
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Tory Leadership Contest

Regardless of your political persuasions, it is not the role of journalists to refer to a politician as misogynistic and homophobic.

If they are misogynistic and homophobic it is absolutely right to call them out on it. The media has been pussy footing around bigots for far too long.


What happens if they're misandrist? Do we just turn a blind eye? Is that now acceptable?
Worzel4,594 posts since 8 Jan 2008
Anglia (West) Look East (West sub-opt)

New BBC corporate font: BBC Reith

Currently, that's where the ticker is. Have we seen evidence that the ticker won't still be on the same line as the DOG and clock?

Nothing that is 100% concrete, but it seems to be relatively certain:
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Based on that, the News channel headlines strap would look like this.

To me the logo should stay on top of the flipper as there's quite a lot of empty black space.

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Worzel4,594 posts since 8 Jan 2008
Anglia (West) Look East (West sub-opt)

New BBC corporate font: BBC Reith

Currently, that's where the ticker is. Have we seen evidence that the ticker won't still be on the same line as the DOG and clock?


I've based the mocks above on three bits of viewable information:

- The new Victoria Derbyshire Show graphics which are currently sitting in a gap above the News channel DOG and ticker. It's basically a gap that's the same width as the current ticker.
- The World News 1 minute wrap which has the bullet point and bbc.com/news where a ticker or flipper would logically go.
- The BBC Midlands Today graphics which sit almost in line with the mocks I've made.

If I were a betting man, I'd day the ticker will become a CNN style flipper and the gap created next to the DOG will be used for the slide in graphics which normally have things like #BBCpapers, show Twitter handles and show slugs - which could cycle round.

Trying to work out how the ticker will go into breaking mode, I suppose the font could just change to red?
Last edited by Worzel on 16 June 2019 6:41pm
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Worzel4,594 posts since 8 Jan 2008
Anglia (West) Look East (West sub-opt)

New BBC corporate font: BBC Reith

Based on the Breakfast leak and other bits and pieces we've seen floating about I wonder if we'll end up with a split screen a bit like this?

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And indeed whether shows like Outside Source would have colour coordinated straps?

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Still not quite sure what they're planning to put in the dead space/strip to the right of the DOG/clock? Logically contact methods and show slugs could go there as demonstrated above.
Worzel4,594 posts since 8 Jan 2008
Anglia (West) Look East (West sub-opt)

New BBC corporate font: BBC Reith

The latest BBC World News one-minute update also features Reith and a new strap.



How do I view that I? Has a cross thru the play button

I think videos uploaded on Metropol with a public link, for some reason, don't work in Safari on Mac and iOS. If it was uploaded with a private link it would work, and it works in other browsers.

EDIT: Actually this one doesn't work when downloaded either, so it may not be encoded properly?


Based on that, I've updated my mocks I did before. I wonder if we could end up with something like this for the News channel?

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Worzel4,594 posts since 8 Jan 2008
Anglia (West) Look East (West sub-opt)

New BBC corporate font: BBC Reith









It's July, so clear your diaries, get the time booked off, cause that's what I'm doing.


JULY!!!!!?

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Worzel4,594 posts since 8 Jan 2008
Anglia (West) Look East (West sub-opt)

New BBC corporate font: BBC Reith

Putting aside BBC News and its Reith issues...

When will BBC Parliament get Reith, and an updated Reith Logo?

Judging how long the BBC is taking to roll this typeface out, probably never as this rate! Laughing


One would hope because its supposed to come under the BBC News umbrella it'll be rolled out at the same time.

I seem to remember when the current graphics appeared on BBC News in 2013, Parliament had their lower thirds adjusted to look similar but not quite the same as they were using the old Aston system at the time.

It was only around 2015/2016 when they inherited and installed some of the old TVC kit which ISTR included an old Viz server/engine that the graphics matched the News channel.
Worzel4,594 posts since 8 Jan 2008
Anglia (West) Look East (West sub-opt)

BBC News Channel Presentation - 21/03/16 onwards

The last two clips posted show the contrasts in delivering risque content. Ben Thompson and Victoria Fritz's innuendo laden sweet tasting feature is hilarious, while Derbyshire has clearly deliberately said the C-Bomb and then rants about men using the term.

Sorry Victoria, lovely films and crap stunts like this don't make good tv.

Did she even apologise to the viewers, or just her assembled guests in the studio?


She commented about it on Twitter but never actually apologised for her sexist smear against men.
Worzel4,594 posts since 8 Jan 2008
Anglia (West) Look East (West sub-opt)

New BBC corporate font: BBC Reith

Can we maybe lock this thread until we get definite proof that something is going to happen? Might sound OTT but otherwise it's just going to be many more pages of the same thing.


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...it had to be done. Laughing
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Worzel4,594 posts since 8 Jan 2008
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BBC News Channel Presentation - 21/03/16 onwards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYDlS3snIVo

Couldn't have looked more deliberate if she tried.


I was more annoyed at the sexist smear comment afterwards - 'It's usually men who say that'.

Exactly my thoughts. How odd that was the first thing that went through her mind.


Can you imagine the uproar if the genders were reversed?
Last edited by Worzel on 10 June 2019 7:10pm
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Worzel4,594 posts since 8 Jan 2008
Anglia (West) Look East (West sub-opt)

BBC News Channel Presentation - 21/03/16 onwards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYDlS3snIVo

Couldn't have looked more deliberate if she tried.


I was more annoyed at the sexist smear comment afterwards - 'It's usually men who say that'.
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Worzel4,594 posts since 8 Jan 2008
Anglia (West) Look East (West sub-opt)

BBC News Channel Presentation - 21/03/16 onwards

Not that rare is it? Don't Sport often throw to the weather?


Sorry but you can't compare the two. Simply throwing to the weather is slightly different from reading a script recalling the D Day commemorations last week and introducing Simon McCoy and the veteran.

Considering the sports news requires an autocue any of the sports people should be more than capable of reading a couple of sentences from autocue on just about any topic.


Jeez. I was just commenting on it being a rare occurrence. Didn't realise it required a post mortem as well. Rolling Eyes
Worzel4,594 posts since 8 Jan 2008
Anglia (West) Look East (West sub-opt)

The Sport Thread

I'm sure that someone knows but what, apart from affectation, is the reason for the highly disproportionate typeface being used for the WWC 2019 by the organisers, as reflected in this graphic by the BBC?




Well done to England for getting a gOAL


What, no Reith? Laughing
Worzel4,594 posts since 8 Jan 2008
Anglia (West) Look East (West sub-opt)

Years and years

Have been catching up with Years and Years on iPlayer recently and one has to hope it's not too accurate a vision of our future - the below fake BBC News clip is from a scene set in 2026, where they're apparently still using the graphics and studios launched in 2013, and no Reith!

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Maybe someone at the BBC saw our discussions and decided to mess with us.


On the plus side, they've evolved just enough to drop the 4:3 safe areas for the graphics. Laughing