VMPhil's posts

9305 search results, most recent first

1234...371372373
VMPhil10,123 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today

ITV's Relationship with the BBC


Was it a case of Granada realising that some things work better on the BBC, or was it that these were programmes that the ITV Network Centre didn't want, and so Granada took them to the Beeb instead?

Mrs Merton was Granada for BBC as well.


As was one of the 'Ups', was it 42 Up?

I think that actually was a case of ITV turning it down and the BBC taking it on. I believe Steve has talked about this before on here.
VMPhil10,123 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today

ITV's Relationship with the BBC

Given that the idea behind The Royle Family (at least, originally) was that it was in real time over thirty minutes, I'm not sure it really would have worked on ITV.

Granada especially seem to realise some things work better ad free on the BBC, although had it aired in "real time" on ITV I'm sure the 4 minute break could be worked in easy enough, especially as the show was built around watching TV and putting the kettle on.


Was it a case of Granada realising that some things work better on the BBC, or was it that these were programmes that the ITV Network Centre didn't want, and so Granada took them to the Beeb instead?

Mrs Merton was Granada for BBC as well.
VMPhil10,123 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today

ITV's Relationship with the BBC


We were always told in, ahem, A-Level Media Studies that it was a practice that came from Granada et al making programmes that don't fit in their hometown. Though it's easy to say that The Royle Family wouldn't fit in on ITV nowadays, in the late 90s, I can't say it would've seemed too out of place. They certainly seemed more open to comedy ideas at the time and probably would've given it a bit more breathing room than your typical sitcom would get today. Not that we're expecting to see any new sitcoms on ITV any time soon...

Given that the idea behind The Royle Family (at least, originally) was that it was in real time over thirty minutes, I'm not sure it really would have worked on ITV.


24 worked on commercial TV, though the impact of it being in real time was lost when it appeared over here on the BBC.

I don’t think 24 would have had long periods of silence with Jack Bauer sitting down doing nothing and watching TV though? That was one of the unique things about The Royle Family.


I can certainly see how you could put an ad break into it, I just don’t think it would work nearly as well. With audience sitcoms you can end part one on a great punchline or cliffhanger, not so much with The Royle Family.
VMPhil10,123 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today

ITV's Relationship with the BBC

If the BBC was happy to buy, no doubt Granada were more than happy to provide the series.

The Royle Family comes to mind in the 90s also. Complete with prominent blue stripe G-arrow logo at the end of the credits.


We were always told in, ahem, A-Level Media Studies that it was a practice that came from Granada et al making programmes that don't fit in their hometown. Though it's easy to say that The Royle Family wouldn't fit in on ITV nowadays, in the late 90s, I can't say it would've seemed too out of place. They certainly seemed more open to comedy ideas at the time and probably would've given it a bit more breathing room than your typical sitcom would get today. Not that we're expecting to see any new sitcoms on ITV any time soon...

Given that the idea behind The Royle Family (at least, originally) was that it was in real time over thirty minutes, I'm not sure it really would have worked on ITV.
VMPhil10,123 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today

Good Morning Britain in 2020

The difference between GMB before Piers and after is that before, all anyone talked about was how poor the ratings were and how it was surely going to get the axe at any moment. Now, after Piers, all anyone talks about is, well, Piers. So the attention has been shifted away from the ratings and the health of the show overall in the media, even if the ratings haven't actually changed that much.
6
ittrgrey, what and 4 others
  • Toasty603
  • London Lite
  • BBI45
  • Brekkie
gave kudos
VMPhil10,123 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today

BBC Breakfast - 16th July onwards

I don’t think it was meant to come across that way. They are probably just showing an interest. As someone who works in the airline industry we get asked this quite a lot and whilst we don’t divulge specifics, in most cases it’s just people showing a genuine interest.

A real life conversation is different to someone posting on a public forum that anyone can read, even if you're 'just showing an interest' other people may not be.
2
ittrgrey and Brekkie gave kudos
VMPhil10,123 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today

Good Morning Britain in 2020



I agree about the Daybreak years but at the same time to censor the past is to disregard it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_oEOdIBOpU


Sometimes it's probably best to disregard some things...



In terms of a breakfast tv programme certainly. There are far more important aspects of our history that we should remember no matter how distasteful they are.

"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it"

George Santayana 16th December 1863-26th September 1952

When Mr Santayana first said this, he couldn’t have guessed that it would one day be used to reference Daybreak not being that successful in the breakfast television market.
15
VMPhil10,123 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today

TV Forum

Has anyone here read Doctor Who Magazine's 2020 Yearbook? There's a 2002 screengrab of Internet Explorer showing a website called Dalek 6388 (which still exists today), but it appears to be a doctored image, as the address bar and header instead refer to TV Home Forum. Yep, this website we're on now got an accidental plug.

It wouldn't happen to be this one would it…


Not sure how/why this was on my old hard drive, but a snapshot of the forum's homepage way back in December 2001 - complete with Windows 98/Internet Explorer 5 surroundings!

*

(I'm not sure whose birthday it was on MSN Messenger)
1
BillyH gave kudos
VMPhil10,123 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today

X Factor

That
News tonight that another autumn Saturday night show, Take Me Out, has also been axed after 11 years. No surprise really it was getting terrible ratings. It definitely feels that it's time for a shake-up of the autumn schedule.


I must admit, I thought it had been axed a few years ago! 11 years is a decent run mind, but I guess Paddy's much busier with Top Gear now as well.

When's Alan Carr's Gameshow Marathon (or whatever its called) airing? Guessing it will be after Takeaway finishes?


Various sources seem to suggest there is a Christmas Special of this too due for airing at Christmas 2020 (itvmedia.co.uk) so if they're going to lump them all together that suggests late October. But of course nothing to stop them being separated so...

Mind you other sources seem to suggest it aired last year, which I doubt considering the contestant appeal didn't close until July 2019.

I think the story (as posted by gottago IIRC?) is that they were going to launch it with the Christmas special, but it was decided that wouldn't make sense so it's been put on the shelf until next Christmas. Which should be fine as long as Alan doesn't get LASIK this year or something.
VMPhil10,123 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today

ITV Programming Thread

I saw Harry's Sausage Time live show about 7 years ago and it was far and away the funniest comedy show I've ever been to. The whole thing was about 2 and a half hours long (with interval) and built and built and built to a surreal crescendo. It was utterly superb.

I saw him on the Sausage Time tour at the Liverpool Empire. At one point, he got someone in the front row to come on stage and, IIRC, jump on a mattress while Harry sang. About ten seconds into this, the man walked off stage, all the way round the back of the theatre and promptly left. Cue everyone being speechless and the man's name becoming a running gag for the rest of the night. To this day I wonder why you would get front row tickets to a Harry Hill gig if you're not happy with the idea of audience participation.
1
JasonB gave kudos
VMPhil10,123 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today

ITV Programming Thread

Reviving TV Burp would be a terrible idea. I still love it and rewatch it often (I think this is probably one of the best takedowns of a format and its contestants the show ever did) but it ended at the right time IMO. Besides, towards the end Harry wanted it to be more of a sketch show than a clip show and everyone on here hated that, and there's no reason to expect him to go back to just doing clips.

It was half an hour of nonsense of course, but there absolutely needs to be a place for that on TV.

'If you have any questions, give me a ring!'
4
Spencer, jsgibble and 2 others
  • Brekkie
  • Lewismpsmith
gave kudos
VMPhil10,123 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today

ITV Programming Thread

The Fun Capsule will no doubt be repackaged as something else. After all, his Sky One TV show (Harry Hill's Tea-Time I think it was called) was pretty much the same thing in different colours on a different set. So no doubt it'll appear somewhere else with a new name soon.

Er, no it’s not. They may have similar features or items but Tea Time was based around just having a single guest each week whereas Alien Fun Capsule had a panel.


What a shame though, it was one of the best shows on TV, especially since it was like nothing else on and put in ITV prime time as only Harry Hill can do.

In memoriam:

2
Ash101 and sda| gave kudos
VMPhil10,123 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today

Top Gear

Remember they tried QI for a while on BBC One and shifted it back to Two? Sometimes things don’t fit on another channel.

It fitted in fine and doubled its ratings, it only went back because the then controller of BBC ONE Danny Cohen didn't like it and wanted to free up development cash. Which ironically was mostly spent on a reboot of the old BBC 2 format Room 101.

But I seem to recall genuine criticism at the time that the pre-watershed slot and mainstream audience of BBC One meant they had to be more tame and cut out more of the rude (and funniest) bits. Course, Top Gear's pre-watershed anyway so that won't be a major issue.
VMPhil10,123 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today

Top Gear

I was planning on starting a Top Gear thread today purely because I’m enjoying it so much and it deserves to be talked about more. I’m a bit nervous about what such a move will do at a time when the programme is on the ascendancy again, but there’s no doubt that they’ve earned it, and I hope the wider exposure will ultimately be beneficial to the programme.
1
nwtv2003 gave kudos
VMPhil10,123 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today

TV one hit wonders

I agree with you, though I thought Sunday Side Up was far better and a much more fun alternative to Sunday Brunch, feeling like a classic Saturday morning show but on a very small scale. I don’t mind Sunday Brunch but it’s hardly the most entertaining programme, its usually just the best of a bad bunch in that slot.
1
ThatTVNerd gave kudos