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VMPhil10,250 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today

New Sky channels: Crime, Comedy, Documentaries, Nature

The Sky One “Up Next” towards the end of the show seems to have got a lot bigger. It was previously pretty small but now takes up alot of the bottom part of the screen.

Having just seen this, you're not wrong. Obtrusive is an understatement! The worst thing is the previous design was small, subtle (but still drew your attention), and didn't cover up a fifth of the screen with a dark blue background.
VMPhil10,250 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today

BBC World News | October 2019 Onwards

Just on Click Online and Stephen Cole, I've had a rummage around on my hard drive and found some old materials from the early days. Sadly, I never managed to capture the original Click Online presentation. I do vividly remember it though.

Very interesting to note Spencer Kelly on the production team credits even back then, clearly he's been part of the show much longer than he's been the face of it! (I remember him from his early morning radio days, I guess he left local radio to join the beeb)

A lot of people on Click have been there a long time. I found this staff page from 2011 earlier, everyone on it with a few exceptions still works on Click: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/meet_the_team/default.stm

Gareth Mitchell still presents the radio version of Click, but it has reverted to the original name of Digital Planet.

I was wondering if Webscape was still going, but it appears it was axed in 2015 and Kate Russell makes less of an appearance on Click these days as a result.

I haven't watched the programme in years, I used to be a regular viewer from just before Stephen Cole left but I think I just lost interest. I remember recording it used to be a hassle, it was frequently dropped for breaking news. I remember recording it back in the N24 tower era and half-way through the programme, the huge breaking news aston appeared and stayed on screen for the rest of the programme before they went into rolling news.
VMPhil10,250 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today

YouTube Gold

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEf2zwbbc2w

Early news reports of Diana’s road accident, including a BBC2 report with Martyn Lewis and an ITN report with Tim Wilcox.


This is great, though unfortunately the very early stuff has already been uploaded (the first report during BBC1’s late film and the BBC2 report, though the latter was from BBC Wales on 2 rather than network)

This screengrab of Martyn Lewis from the MHP page looks different from either of those bulletins (slightly different camera positioning if you look at the background). I’ve always assumed it was from the second BBC1 report during the film that has yet to surface online in video form.

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VMPhil10,250 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today

New Sky channels: Crime, Comedy, Documentaries, Nature

Especially so soon, It certainly felt like they were launching today. I wonder why they did it anyway, it can’t be Covid-19!

I'm contacting their help team on Twitter DMs. Have to see what they'll say.

I don’t want to sound like a knob, but I don’t think the support team would know anything about pres changes, and they’re probably dealing with a heavily increased amount of customer queries at the moment.
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VMPhil10,250 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today

BBC World News | October 2019 Onwards

Speaking of Click Online, this surely has to be the best theme tune of the 2000s...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L2IzJolyOs

Although it isn't the 'original theme' as claimed by the YouTube uploader. This theme only came in during 2003. It was however, a vast improvement on the actual original 2000-2003 theme.

Ah yes, the random techie words on a text-to-speech synthesiser version.
https://archive.org/details/BBC_20010911_003000_Click_Online

You have selected Microsoft Sam as the computer's default voice.
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VMPhil10,250 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today

Coronavirus | General TV News Coverage




The Queen has really been the one constant in people's lives for decades. As a few people mentioned on Twitter last night, it is quite something when you can refer to a broadcast you made in 1940.
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VMPhil10,250 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today

Coronavirus - Impact on live/recorded shows

The worst thing about this episode, and something I’ve noticed with Angus, is that he cannot improvise a comeback to save his life.


I saw this more as a 'not even going to dignify that with an answer' method of dealing with it. I think the very dry manner in which Angus responds adds to the comedy of it all, especially at, say 7:31 in the clip I posted where Paul reveals the T-shirt featuring the front page of The News of the World after Angus asks a question and he leaves it just long enough for the laughter to die down before saying "...is the wrong answer". I think it's just his style of comedy and not at all proof of him not being quick-witted enough to 'compete' with Ian and Paul.

His 2 seasons as presenter of Would I lie to you?, sadly proved to me that it was the superb team of writers on HIGNY that made him. He was lost without a tight script and had zero improvisational skills. "Bognor or Bust" was even worse.

Yes, great scripted performer as the presenter, as well as on KYTV, One Foot in the Grave and the various clip shows he did, but not good at improv. He has said he was heavily involved with the writing behind HIGNFY - not sure if that was the case for WILTY?
VMPhil10,250 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today

Coronavirus - Impact on live/recorded shows

The below video is a compilation clips from the first episode to be recorded after Angus' 'scandal'.

While they all partake in the ribbing, Paul seems to take particular delight in it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L8ij02Df2w

The worst thing about this episode, and something I’ve noticed with Angus, is that he cannot improvise a comeback to save his life. So when you’re up against Ian and especially Paul, who can come up with a witty riposte at a moment’s notice, it’s almost excruciating. You’re just willing him to get his own back and he doesn’t.


There was a relatively recent interview with Angus, possibly in The Times, where he said he found it strange how Paul started saying they were never friends, as they both often went drinking together after a recording and talking about how successful the show was.

On the Best of 1990-2002 DVD, which was released after the first set of allegations but before the second set which ultimately got him sacked, only Paul and Ian do the commentary, so I don’t know if that points to them not being friendly with Angus by that point.
VMPhil10,250 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today

Coronavirus - Impact on live/recorded shows


The vast majority do tend to be old reliables but they try and get a couple of new faces in the hosts chair every series. Last year off the top of my head Charlie Brooker, Adil Ray and David Dimbleby were all first time hosts.

You're right about Dimbleby, but the others have presented before. The only other new presenter in 2019 was Helen McCrory.


Ah fair enough. Like I said top of the head stuff. To be fair looks like Charlie Brooker hadn't done it for at least 3 years so it isn't always the exact same rotation.

I should have put ‘according to Wikipedia’, sorry. I probably came across as one of those people who Googles stuff and then posts it as if they know everything, but I knew Charlie had hosted it more than once.
VMPhil10,250 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today

Coronavirus | General TV News Coverage

Sky One’s broadcast of The Queen included a short bit at the very start with Dermot Murnaghan on Sky News saying ‘welcome to all our Sky channels’, and briefly fading back to him at the end before being cut off.

I enjoyed how most channels had nice respectful EPG listings like "An Address by Her Majesty The Queen", "HM The Queen", and Channel 4 going slightly off-grid by calling it "The Queen's Speech" - then Sky One went with the shouty "VIRUS PANDEMIC: HM The Queen"

On Virgin they were all ‘An Address by Her Majesty The Queen’ apart from ‘The Queen’s Speech: Channel 4 News Special’.
VMPhil10,250 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today

Coronavirus - Impact on live/recorded shows


I'd wondered about that as well, especially as she's just left the BBC so was a bit of an odd choice. I see Stephen Magnan and Victoria Coren Mitchell are next up, I can see it being established hosts for the whole series, and not many new faces.

Haven't they pretty much rotated through the same faces for years now?


The vast majority do tend to be old reliables but they try and get a couple of new faces in the hosts chair every series. Last year off the top of my head Charlie Brooker, Adil Ray and David Dimbleby were all first time hosts.

You're right about Dimbleby, but the others have presented before. The only other new presenter in 2019 was Helen McCrory.
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VMPhil10,250 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today

BBC World News | October 2019 Onwards

Click has a special 20th anniversary show now available on the iPlayer, complete with snips of the original titles and Stephen Cole (who is now at CGTN).

Click launched as Click Online on BBC World on Thursday 6th April 2000. If I remember correctly, it was at 2130 CET. BBC World relaunched with the corporate look on the Monday morning of that week.

My god… maybe I never saw it when I was a regular watcher, but Spencer Kelly seems to have transformed into Alan Partridge judging by the intro/outro bits
VMPhil10,250 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today

EastEnders

To get a computer back in 1993 to have a scan of the aerial photo at a high enough resolution for the initial shot, then zoom out of it, would have required a massive spec - something along the lines of Disneys CAPS. Not sure The BBC would have had the resources, when a big print out and a rostrum would suffice, with some video effects keyed on the top.

Sorry, it was a mixture of a) coming from a world where everything like that is computer generated now and b) the animation of the camera being so still and the visual effects like the water.


It's funny that they ever thought that version of the tune was appropriate.

A shame Drama didn't let them run clean today. Has the custom announcements stopped too? Always thought it was to Drama's credit that they bothered introducing the episode properly rather than ITV3's generic intros into Corrie.

Full length credits on both yesterday's second episode and today's first

Ah, I did wonder how they were still getting away with 90 second credits for a 30 minute programme in 1993. Mind you, I still wonder how they get away with 45 second credits in 2020 Smile

Fortunately it is announcement and ECP-free on the UKTV Play version, with better audio quality than the Freeview broadcast at least.

I have half-wondered whether they'd end up speeding up the credits by now, after all UK Gold edited them down and even ditched them completely at one point, so it's nice we haven't had any of that.
VMPhil10,250 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today

EastEnders

Woah, I didn't know the animation on this title sequence was in 50i! The two sequences since then (1999 and 2009) have both been shown at 25p, and of course the original was on film.


I think it was still a physical map shot with a camera (though there must have been some sort of special effects to make the waves in the river at the start of the sequence), clearly a video one, rather than a film one like the 1985 map was. The 1999 and 2009 ones were CGI and it was probably a lot quicker to render the animation as 25p than 50i. I seem to remember reading the 2009 sequence took several days to render as it was.

To be honest… I never even contemplated it would be a physical model. I've always assumed that was CGI! Are you sure it's not?