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BBC Two Christmas 2018

Turns out Cat's Tail does an official name.
Comforting is the ident's name


Nope, it’s called Cosy.
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Children's BBC and BBC Ulster

Col posted:
Certainly by the start of 1988, the post-local news slot was occupied by Crossroads (Kings Oak) on Monday and Tuesday at 6.35, Emmerdale Farm on Wednesday and Thursday at 6.30, and Six Tonight Extra on Friday at, interestingly, 6.15.


Emmerdale Farm was huge in Northern Ireland, just as Emmerdale still is today, but it was never on at 6.30 was it? I clearly remember it at 7 on Tuesdays and Thursdays.
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Children's BBC and BBC Ulster

Six Tonight did air for one hour. I remember watching it. My family used to have it on whilst we ate our dinner. There were occasions when it was shortened, it was not an hour every night, Fridays were certainly an hour long.


When it launched, Six Tonight ran for an hour on Fridays and possibly Mondays - but it was definitely only half an hour the rest of the week. Was it Crossroads at 6.30 on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays? Or maybe that had finished by then.

But certainly UTV went on to use the 6.30 slot very effectively. I remember the Monday consumer show, Check it Out, with Eamonn Holmes and Jacqui Berkeley, which got great figures locally. I can't swear to it (it's a very long time ago) but, by the time Six Tonight ended, I'm fairly sure it was only half an hour on Fridays too, with Sportscast or similar at 6.30.
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Children's BBC and BBC Ulster

During the broom cupboard years Philip Schofield or whoever would say bye to viewers in northern Ireland because their local bulletin was starting where for the rest of the country CBBC continued. Why was this?

I remember that farewell as a child. The reason was that "Inside Ulster" was their local news programme from 1984-1996 and it aired from 5.35pm until 6.00pm. This was the time slot where Neighbours aired in the rest of the UK. They wanted to start the programme fast, and to try and get a full 25 minute programme slot. UTV was very competitive, with their "Six Tonight" one hour news slot from 6-7pm on Ulster Television at the time. UTV used to beat the BBC every night.


Neighbours would air at 6.30pm, and would be followed by another Inside Ulster update at 6.55pm.

In February 1996, Inside Ulster was axed, and a new programme Newsline 6.30 was created. Their launch was an awful start, for some reason the BBC dumped the usual newsreaders Sean Rafferty, Connor Bradford, Seamus McKee and Wendy Austin, and brought in two reporters - Yvette Shapiro and Jim Dougal. Within weeks the ratings got worse than before, and the older team were reinstated.


As Denton says, this isn’t quite right.

Inside Ulster initially launched at 6.30 in September 1984 on the same day as the Six O’Clock News. But it bombed in the ratings - em, no pun intended - and, in early 1985, moved to 5.40, preceded by Today’s Sport, which was later, and briefly, retitled to something like ”Sportswide,” before Inside Ulster took over the full 5.35-6 slot. This was long before Neighbours even started, so either the 5.35 network programme - such as Fax or Masterteam - or some local thing was shown at 6.35.

Seamus McKee and Wendy Austin never returned to Newsline, but Conor Bradford did, along with Rose Neill.
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UTV rebrand

There are also many unionists that prefer Ulster, rather than use something that's got Ireland in it.


Sorry, but I’ve lived in Northern Ireland all my life, and that simply isn’t true.
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UTV rebrand

And Northern Ireland isn't universally accepted either. There are many unionists that would prefer Ulster.


You’re right that Northern Ireland isn’t universally accepted, but it’s actually nationalists who object. Some see NI as an artificial state that should never have come into being in the first place, and their aspiration is that one day it will cease to exist when Ireland is united. For that reason, some even refuse to use the term and instead refer to it as “the north of Ireland.”

For all its faults - and contrary to much of the educated guesswork that’s been going on in this thread - the term Ulster is actually less contentious.
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Children In Need 2017

The NI CA I think was the one on duty when BBC1 analogue closed down, so not surprised we got a crossover anorak intro into the show rather than the generic script.


It wasn't.
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BBC Oneness - idents and presentation

Wicko posted:
Is Northern Ireland now over represented with the Oneness look?


I'd been thinking this as well, but at the same time, BBC NI always make a full effort with presentation so maybe they deserve a bigger representation


By my reckoning there are 17 Oneness idents so far - more if you count the different variants of Mountain Rescuers, Wheelchair Rugby, Bog Snorkellers, Exercise Class and Swimmers. Only four were filmed in Northern Ireland. That's not over-representation is it?
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BBC One 2016

Cavan posted:
Do you think BBC One NI will reintroduce the Windows ident as well?

No. Windows was withdrawn because of the flashing lights in the ident.


No it wasn't.

However, it was withdrawn about a week after it launched just in case the flashing lights might cause problems, but it was re-checked and reinstated days later.

It then remained on air for a good couple of years before it was "rested".
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Kat and Alfie Moon | EastEnders Spin-off

DJGM posted:
there haven't been any soap spin-off (or soap "bubble") that I can think off that has been entirely successful or lasted long.


Knots Landing spun off from Dallas and ran for 14 years. Not bad going...
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BBC Northern Ireland 90th Anniversary presentation

Cavan posted:
...and BBC2 NI showed Giant's Causeway, before Strictly: It Takes Two.

Now that has to be a recreation!


It's actually a version that's never been seen on air until today. The reason it was changed is because the imagery - with the tall columns, smoke and shaky camera effect - made it all look a bit too "Ground Zero". Bear in mind it was produced in 2001 when that was all still very raw. So Lambie-Nairn made an amended version with lower columns, no smoke, and different music.

You *might* catch it again later tonight at 10...
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RIP Patrick Moore

BBC Scotland used, well not moon but space prob driving around the moon. EDIT IE Mission Control

I think Scotland get the award for the best ident Wink


It's the same one London used.

Complete with "comedy" music Sad