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Yup – it beggars belief!

I think you’re kinda over-reacting diarmy - but only in the sense that it is being shot in 16:9! Very Happy
How is it you think it's being shot in 4:3? Indeed The Rose of Tralee was the first non-sport widescreen programme RTÉ ever transmitted, this time last year! But fully agreed about the graphics, notably the astons which aren't even 14:9 safe whatever about 4:3 - exactly the same feck-up as last year! They couldn't even be arsed changing them two years running. And the same for the ad break graphics with those hideous sponsor logos pasted all over them. It’s the commerciality of this event that is so embarrassing – sponsors name-dropped in at every opportunity, logos pasted everywhere, the prize VT a full-blown minute of cringe-inducing plugs, with crass Newbridge silverware mentioned about six times……
Arrrgh!

A couple of other less major gripes on the production would be the speed of the steadicam which is generally ridiculously fast - essentially they're just using it because they have it, rather than trying to tie it into the flow of things.
The principal Rose camera is very shaky, up on a scaffold unit. It has improved a bit since last night, but still could be better.
Those LED lighting bar thingies behind the set look feckin ghastly!


But on a big positive note, the production values really have improved enormously over the past couple of years. The lighting is absolutely superb - both the main subject lighting, the wonderful glowing set lighting, and the starlights of the ceiling which can look stunning. The twinkling lights behind the set panels (LED yokes aside) look equally elegant and are a very nice touch - used for a number of years now.
Special effect lighting using rotating filters/lenses cast wonderful glowing patterns on the set too, making it look very complex and interesting.
The various lighting colour cues for each segment are very effective too, as are the softboxes located underneath Ray and Rose to give them that extra glowing lift. Excellent stuff. By Martin Keleghan.

Audio management is generally very good, though I would question why RTÉ leave the house sound on during the News break online - people all over the world can hear the feckin sound tests and all the rest during the break! Shocked
Also the mics they use are miles ahead of those ghastly pole yokes they used up till about three years ago - it beggared belief they lasted that long, but it's good to see they're banished. Still think the current ones are too intrusive though.
As is Ray's giant lapel mic - why the heck is it plonked in the middle of his white shirt?! It could easily be popped onto a lapel without him going off-mic. Alternatively get a silver or white mic and use it on the shirt, or two small black ones for each lapel – anything but that ghastly yoke!
Only real audio problem was the disaster of the final song – the mic either couldn’t handle the singer’s frequencies or there was a major problem with the levels as seemed to be the case, with all of the high parts peaking massively – what an embarrassment! Embarassed

Also the crane operation is superb for once, really lovely stuff. So all in all, a very mixed bag.
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It's very surprising nothing like this ever happened to RTÉ during the 1997 scheme, not to mention nearly every night of the week!

http://thetvroom.com/images-rte-one/rte-one-news/images-1997/six/main-0.jpg
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Speaking of feck-ups - a disaster occured the other night on News on Two. Might as well give the link directly to the source:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054978282

What a pity News on Two isn't webstreamed! Though I've a feeling even RTÉ wouldn't put that up online. Very odd there was such a major lighting and VT problem in the same bulletin.

The past few days have seen rather dodgy cuts from Pres to the Newsroom, with a scrappy bit of black flicking in on the cut - strange it should start this late into the use of the temp studio.
Also on this studio, it would appear the principal presenter camera is manual afterall. Judging by the movements I've seen, often involving minute panning forth and back, and forth again, and often up and down too, very much suggests manual control. It's a lot harder to reframe remotely without things being noticed, and so remote ops tend to be very conservative in their use of the joystick. By contrast it's much more tempting (and often smoother) to move a camera manually, and keep tweaking at that!

Eileen also often talks to someone at the end of bulletins now, so clearly there's at least one person in studio manning the cameras - hardly a floor manager as they don't appear to use them anymore.
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diarmydotnet posted:
with only 2 slight technical faults with reports.


lol - is this RTÉ News best practice: two feck-ups per bulletin? Very Happy
The highest attainable standard...

But yes, fully agreed about what was a fantastically tight bulletin this evening. There is no question that the output from the temp studio has been miles over and above the production values of Studio 3 - a farcical state of affairs when one considers Studio 3 has RTÉ's flagship gallery, not to mention it being probably the most advanced television news production facility in Ireland, with massively engineered, fine-tuned camera, lighting and sound. And yet the output from a tossed-together temporary studio is actually proving to be much more impressive! Okay the lighting is a bit dodgy, but the gallery operations are second to none – the cues wonderfully tight, the sound mixing flawless, the graphics spot on etc etc.

It’s hard to say if it’s because of different equipment being used, or because there’s a new crew in for the summer period. Personally I suspect the latter – it seems there’s just decent vision mixers and VT ops beavering away on a mixture of equipment brought over from Studio 3 and some temporary stuff. Well done to all involved. Whichever explanation it is, they’ve either shown up the regular gallery team as the inefficient shower that they are, or have highlighted how inadequate the Studio 3 gallery is.

And yes Hammond is a superb professional, his only problem as we know being his handling of ‘interviews’. He does also have a habit of not fully engaging with the viewer by not making enough effort to hide that he’s reading an autocue – he does tend to churn it out at times, mainly the top story. Otherwise, without doubt one of the best Wink.
Likewise Eamon – a superb operator in every respect. He’s the ultimate cool customer, never phased by the slightest glitch, and so effortlessly natural. He’ll often even read a story slouched to one side, with his script in his hand in shot – it looks wonderfully conversational, if a bit too casual Smile. It’s amazing the difference holding a script makes in creating the impression that you're not reading a thing. Only one thing though, his fashion sense Shocked. He has an impressive wardrobe, but good god, some of the stuff he comes out with would make your eyes water – like tonight’s concoction! Why ruin a perfectly lovely light charcoal suit with a day-glo blue shirt with white collar and cuffs?!! Someone get this man some fashion advice!
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Hmmm - a discreet promo perhaps? Indeed it seems to have been posted in the run up to the new Late Late season....

I love it though Very Happy. The detail is almost spot on, right down to the little starlights that they used to have around Studio 4 - what a pity they were ditched as they're classic late night chat show material and looked really elegant. I love the expressions of the Lego people too Smile
Even the amount of cameras seems to be spot on!

Saying that, the set is way out of date as it was changed about three years ago now! But who cares, as it may well be changed this season too so you'd have to keep rebuilding - indeed here's hoping it will be changed this Sept given the horribly cheap concoction we have now.
And you can tell the video is a few years old even in the production techniques, cause as Phen as noted, the concept of a dissolve on the Late Late still exists lol. And what a difference it makes too!
The TV Building is bizarrely similar as well - I didn't even know Lego came in brown concrete colour!

Thanks for the link diarmy, do post anymore you come across Very Happy
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Hmmm - that is very interesting rdd. Thanks for that.
Alas the Herald website is as useless as ever.

I've nothing against brown and cream - God knows it's being propagated to death by most major Irish retailers at the minute - but am concerned as to its longevity if it proves dull and uninspiring. But no WAY can they use those hideous titles in the Autumn promo Shocked

As for the LED screens - for all we know they could just form an illuminated backdrop with an interesting pattern displayed on it: impossible to say at the minute. We shouldn't jump to conclusions about stupid stand-up acts just yet!
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I doubt it somehow, but certainly noticed alright Wink
And what a difference it makes! Crowley acted pretty much the same, but Tony Connolly is so much more natural, and with paper in his hand. Makes the world of difference - the setup with both doesn't seem remotely as contrived as it is with mics. More of this please!
And again top marks re the temp studio - the presenter mid shot is absolutely spot on in every respect in replicating Studio 3. They've really fine tuned things and it looks exactly the same now Very Happy. Excellent lighting too - even the wide shot has improved

Yes I agree that if RTÉ had a competitor equal to it in content, it would certainly brush up its presentation, no question. It has a near monopoly on Irish affairs - no bad thing - but this has always affected presentation over the years, never being forced to clean up its act. Indeed, as difficult as it is to believe, about 15-20% of the Irish population still only have the four Irish channels! So RTÉ are all they know, and of course this figure was much greater until fairly recently.

Overall though, in reporting presentation, things seem to have been better 10 years ago than what they are now the more you look at older reports. Lovely steady, solid stuff - nicely done by professional editors. None of the muck we get today from inadequately trained reporters. This is the one area that needs most attention with RTÉ News - big time.
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diarmydotnet posted:
the overall look is more of a 3D rendering of house plans rather than a news intro.


That's exactly what it looks like - couldn't put my finger on it earlier Smile. There's no depth to it at all, and the intense detail and bizarre 'emblem' is so early 90s in concept. But it is all brown I think - don't think anything looks black in the animation.

In all fairness now I doubt this is it - it is way too frumpy for what even RTÉ must be acknowledging to be a crucial relaunch. They'll be very much on a sleek, crisp, cool drive and no doubt will do their best to achieve this. If anything, the above animation is rather suited to the current set more than the current titles - the colouring ties in well.

It's definitely not a finished polished product anyway, as the 'RTÉ News' text is straight while the block it is on is curved - clearly thrown together for the promo. While it's a very odd thing to do in terms of going to the effort, and in terms of the weird look chosen, I think (hope!) we can rest assured this is nothing like what we're getting.

Given it's the summer, I'd let them off the hook re Lebanon diarmy. There's feck all else to cover at the minute, but moreover, if you go to the expense of sending journalists abroad, you damn well make use of them! Richard Crowley is excellent, but his live sat links are rather humdrum every night, largely because of the scripted nature of the questions he's offered rather than his answers. And again I'd say that bloody hand mic really ties him down - Richard Downes is so much more engaging as he usually gestures with his hands etc. Not that the viewer needs to be distracted every 3 seconds, but this is television here, not visual radio. You add as much complementary interest as you can. Having Crowley standing there motionless, against a black sky, wearing a dark blue shirt, is hardly he most engaging of presentations.
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Pedantic? Where pray tell is the pedantry in that post James? I look forward to your answer.

Well if there's one thing RTÉ cannot be accused of, it is farcical levels of sensationalism as with ITV News. They even finished a 'terror' report the other day with an aerial shot of one of the suspect's houses with a gun target graphic superimposed over it like some sort of trashy US blockbuster. And this was not the output of a police camera. And this is from a so-called professional broadcaster?!

Likewise their insistance on showing the mechanics of the production is equally so - what's the point of neatly composing the principal MCU, what's the point of spending twenty minutes carefully arranging the lighting, what's the point of choosing a suitable location backdrop, what's the point of keeping the mic and stands out of shot, what's the point in the newscaster wearing a suit when everyone else is dressed like sh*te - all for the illusion to be shattered by a childish wide like that? "why not carry it on" indeed....

The principal aim of television production is to ease the viewer into the construct, making everything look as effortless as possible, not use the on-location opportunity to milk your organisation's resources for all they're worth.
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lol - there's nothing more I could add to that if I tried Very Happy

Spot on Phen.
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Why the heck do ITV insist on showing all the technical production side of things in a wide shot at the start of every location shoot they make?! It p*sses me off big time - it's so farcially naff and distracting, and particularly gratuitous in the face of a serious news story, almost trying to make the news programme and its mechanics as prominent as the story.
Ooooh - you're being so radical breaking a broadcasting taboo Rolling Eyes
Get a life ITV.
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They wouldn't dare! They know better than to mess with RTÉ's finest Very Happy
(well, hairstyle aside)

Annnnnyway, back on topic and something I meant to mention yesterday that has been picked up on Boards.ie, if you scroll to 7.57 or so on the Autumn Schedule promo, you'll see a rather odd but nonetheless never-seen-before animated graphic for RTÉ News.

http://dynamic.rte.ie/av/2163866.smil

Brown/gold/cream in colour, it looks very much like an in-house job in terms of its apparent frumpiness and general clutter. I like the colouring a lot, but I hope the rather naff semi-cartoonlike elements are not a feature of this new scheme. It'd remind you of 1992-94!

Rather ironic they include the coverage of the 1916 Commemoration in light of the botched job they made of it.
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