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Sky News presentation - New studio onwards

What new stuido? I thought that was hogwash?

Before a big row blows up, I never said the notion of a new studio (in addition to the glass box) was hogwash, only that what was described by somebody was way off-base. As for the date, I think it would be wisest not to comment.


Nice seeing everybody!
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Sky News presentation - New studio onwards

Asa posted:
I've just had to remove a lot of posts.

1. EastEngland has been warned. There was absolutely no need to derail this thread as much as you did. You made your point then continued to make it over and over.
2. SkyNewsGeek – correcting wrong information is one thing but if you don’t use the RTP system to report posts then you’ll be banned. You posting 12 times continuing the spat is not good.
3. SkyUser23 has been banned, I’ve no interest in reading trashy posts from a new member.
4. Live at five with Jeremy – your post was removed. This isn’t a presenter thread and I don’t know how much more explicit I can be about that.
5. For anyone else who was involved in this latest spat, if it continues again then further action will be taken.

Your point about reporting posts is entirely fair. It's also worth noting that you've banned the person who made the original misleading post, which, while it wasn't my intent, is a good way to put a full-stop at the end of that part of the discussion. Thanks, guys - see you around. Smile
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Sky News presentation - New studio onwards

Asa posted:
I would suggest that it should be curtailed.

And I would suggest your back seat moderation be curtailed. Honestly, this has to be your final warning - you can't keep disrupting threads with your inability to handle members criticising people you know/work with/in the industry. If comments are defamatory or an invasion of privacy then of course action will be taken. Otherwise let people have their say without fear of you popping up. And you might not agree but I think there's a damn sight more constructive criticism on here than the likes of DS or Twitter.

You did the same thing the other day in the GMB thread - couldn't help but get involved even though Charlie had it covered. Your post offered nothing to further the discussion.

So they're allowed to make blindly-critical comments about people they don't even know and I'm not allowed to defend those people, who I do know? Seems an odd way of operating a free speech platform, but then I suppose I should expect nothing less from a group of people who only issued a warning to somebody who made outright bigoted remarks about my disability, rather than saying they were no longer welcome in your community.


For the record, I was disturbed by the Laura Tobin comments at least TWO DAYS before Charlie intervened, but didn't say anything, and only did so when somebody tried to claim they were fair game... which, again, last I checked, I'm allowed to do, or if I'm not, sends one hell of a conflicting message.

If that puts me on my high horse, then it's a saddle I'm happy to occupy. If it makes you feel better to hit the "Ban" button, then go ahead, but I'm walking out of here on my own terms.

By the way, Matt Freestone (formerly of ITN) says hello. He wasn't the first insider to try his hand at the TVF game before throwing up his hands in despair, and I'm sure he won't be the last, but he too got sick and tired of the echo chamber that would rather revel in its own ignorance than even begin to acknowledge the primacy of expertise, all while laying claim to a moral high ground built on sand, where the disabilities of members and the health of presenters and their (as-yet-unborn!) babies are fair game... at least until somebody gets their act together enough to realise it might look embarrassing if they weren't seen to act.

Goodbye and good luck. I fear you're going to need it, especially when the top bloke who is Rob Francis takes his NewsChat site out of beta shortly. It may take a while to build up a head-of-steam, but he's launching it with the explicit intent of being the "anti-TVF" in terms of its level-of-discourse, and I for one wish him luck!
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Sky News presentation - New studio onwards

I would bet money that almost anything written about presenters in the last page or two on here is far more civil than much of what is emailed or tweeted into Sky News on a daily basis. And really, almost all of it on here was about their roles on the channel, not the presenters personally.

You're certainly right about that. The contents of the main inbox - particularly as it relates to LGBT and BAME on-screen talent - is often utterly horrifying.
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Sky News presentation - New studio onwards

As the most-frequent guest producer on the Press Preview, I feel I should say that - as far as I'm aware - none of you know these people on whom you are making these ad-hominem attacks. You are, of course, entitled to your opinions, but I can't help but feel that such rhetoric about presenters and reporters wouldn't be tolerated, so quite aside from the fact that the discussion has veered off being at all pres-related, I would suggest that it should be curtailed.


urrrgh. Let people have their say. No-one is being defamatory. We all know you work for Sky News, you don't have to constantly make out like we are privileged to have you on the forum, and be so defensive about its output or its contributors. It's boring.

I just think it's not nice to sling mud at people you don't know. I'm fortunate enough to meet some well-known people reasonably often. Sometimes my pre-conceived opinion of them (whether positive or negative) turns out to match with who they really are, but quite often, they actually change my opinion of them for the better - so I've learned not to pre-judge so much.


As for your attack on me personally, see above, but exclude the "well-known" bit, and know that the ONLY way in which I regard myself as "privileged" is to get to do a job I love and, in so doing, sometimes have my mind changed for the better. As for whether you or anyone feels feels "privileged" that I contribute here or not, I frankly couldn't give a stuff.
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Sky News presentation - New studio onwards

As the most-frequent guest producer on the Press Preview, I feel I should say that - as far as I'm aware - none of you know these people on whom you are making these ad-hominem attacks. You are, of course, entitled to your opinions, but I can't help but feel that such rhetoric about presenters and reporters wouldn't be tolerated, so quite aside from the fact that the discussion has veered off being at all pres-related, I would suggest that it should be curtailed.
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Good Morning Britain

UBox posted:
Now might be a good point to remind everyone that presenter discussion is not permitted where "it relates to the presenter's personal life/privacy" as the pinned noticed albeit in the newsroom section.

Whilst I think we all agree, since her absence is unexpected I am sure we would all like to wish her good health and hope that herself and bump are fine.

Yes, but there was one post in particular (by TVDP a couple of days ago, as I recall) that veered dangerously close to tasteless, not-to-mention groundless speculation, so Charlie's note-of-caution is entirely appropriate.
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Sky News presentation - New studio onwards

I'm not watching Sky News much these days but I've just tuned in and the biggest difference I can notice since the launch of the glass box is the big improvement in acoustics. The echo was horrendous at the beginning but it seems that they've found some solution for it. Do we have a launch date yet for the new second studio? I believe it was due to be open now but was delayed.

In ters of internal workings, the new studio itself is secondary to actually getting the new newsroom up-and-running... in that a second studio is needed, but without a new newsroom, the team has nowhere to work. They should launch on or around the same date, and that projected date is known internally, but obviously, I can't talk about it yet.


Can we expect the new studio to continue the same design trends as the glass box and baby shard? Also will the new space be a similar setup in terms of size an layout to Sky Sports News studio?

I can't comment on that.
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Sky News presentation - New studio onwards

I'm not watching Sky News much these days but I've just tuned in and the biggest difference I can notice since the launch of the glass box is the big improvement in acoustics. The echo was horrendous at the beginning but it seems that they've found some solution for it. Do we have a launch date yet for the new second studio? I believe it was due to be open now but was delayed.

In terms of internal workings, the new studio itself is secondary to actually getting the new newsroom up-and-running... in that a second studio is needed, but without a new newsroom, the team has nowhere to work. They should launch on or around the same date, and that projected date is known internally, but obviously, I can't talk about it yet.
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Sky News presentation - New studio onwards

World-class pedantry based on zero concrete information whatsoever. It's entertaining to watch folks getting this wound-up, though, I will say that!
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Sky News presentation - New studio onwards

Reverting to only using two colours like the rest of sky?

It's not a huge update. There are some new graphics on the big screen, I don't know about the logo and as far as I know there are no changes to the lower thirds

That may or may not be the only thing.
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Sky News presentation - New studio onwards

Is it Mark Austin? That's the usual guess isn't it?

Honestly, at this point, if I posted that I was moving to a new job within the company, it's not beyond the realm of possibility that the first response might speculate on whether Mark wasn't going to DC after all, but was instead going to replace me!
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