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Good Morning Britain in 2020

Hmmm, I'm not sure the negativity on this thread necessarily reflects the reality for the show. Ratings keep going up and are now the highest in the show's history and must be the highest ITV have had in the breakfast slot in at least 10 years. Meanwhile Piers if anything seems to be winning some of his previous haters around (whilst inevitably annoying others). His criticism of the government has won him as much praise as it has criticism and the show has certainly carved itself a niche.

I'm sure it will inevitably wear off and Piers won't last forever but I can see why they're doubling down on their approach, because like it or not, it seems to be working for them. It's doing far better the bland offerings with smiling, dull presenters have done in the slot previously. Indeed, GMB still needs to work on the Friday episodes, which seem to revert back to all those horrible old ITV breakfast tropes from the later GMTV and Daybreak years, rather than reflecting the progress made in more recent years.
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Coronavirus - Impact on live/recorded shows

JAS84 posted:
That's not a massive drop. Though the initial 235k figure looks far lower than ITV2 should be getting.


Yes, it settled around the 150,000 mark in consolidated. Very poor and its young share was way below the channel average. You vs Chris and Kem did similar numbers, a successful pilot that aired after Love Island did not lend itself to a successful full series.

Looks like last night's repeat didn't do any worse than the show originally did.
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ITV Programming Thread

gottago posted:
Not officially confirmed but they're definitely happening. I think there'll be a lot more quiz/game show commissions coming up in the near future to fill the gaping holes in the schedule this year. They're quick to turn round, you can film multiple episodes a day, do some clever cheats to make up for a lack of audience and even build social distancing into the format or set so as TV genres go gameshows are by far the most versatile for coming out of the lockdown period.


It does make a lot of sense. Going into 2020 I can't imagine a revival of The Cube being at the top of ITV's priority list but things have changed a lot, it is an adaptable format and these shows lend themselves better than most to the conditions that production will now take place in.

It'll be interesting to see what sort of slots these shows get. ITV seem to like stripping stuff across a week these days and whilst that wouldn't work for Family Fortunes, it could be a way to schedule The Cube. They never did it in the original run but it's the sort of high stakes, money ladder format, with carry over contestants, that it could work for. But I guess it might depend on whether they need some of these shows to fill The X Factor's slots as I can't imagine they're going to be able to get any new talent formats up and running in time for the Autumn (such as the Stars in Their Eyes type format that was rumoured). Family Fortunes will almost certainly take some Saturday slots.

Supermarket Sweep is for daytime but the 6 celebrity specials could potentially take weekend teatime slots.

Wonder if they've got any more revivals planned?
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Coronavirus - Impact on live/recorded shows

gottago posted:
In addition to Love Island Aus which started tonight, ITV2 look to be rolling out some of their underperforming reality shows from recent years, presumably filling gaps at 10pm. Bromans, Weekender Boat Party, Killer Camp and You Vs. Chris and Kem all getting unlikely reprises at some point over the summer according to an ad they aired tonight.


This starts tonight with You vs Chris and Kem being stripped across the next 3 nights. Then Killer Camp is stripped across next week.

They're showing them straight after Love Island Australia so they start at various times between 10pm and 10.30pm depending on how long that night's LI: AU is. There's a chance that some of them might rate slightly better this time around. It would be difficult for Killer Camp in particular to do any worse!
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ITV Programming Thread

Could Millionaire not survey an online panel in advance, ask them all the questions and give the results as an alternative to Ask The Audience?

Basically a “we asked 100 people” style thing, like how Pointless and Family Fortunes get the responses to their questions.
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Coronavirus - Impact on live/recorded shows

530k (5.9%) for the DOND repeat yesterday which isn't too bad. Seemed to grow from its lead-in. Channel 4 have done far worse (both audience and share wise) in daytime of late *cough* The Steph Show *cough*.
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Alan Carr's Epic Gameshow

gottago posted:
I should say the producers do slim down the number of people who go to that deliberation day somewhat but they only get rid of the acts that genuinely just do not work on TV (they've already started editing the auditions by this point). That might sound unfair but with the show being made in a theatre there is a case of live performances working so well in front of a live audience and it just not translating well to a pre-recorded TV show.

One good example of this was one of David's Golden Buzzers from a few years ago being an older Irish duo doing a sort of scat version of Crazy in Love which was genuinely so electric when it was performed live in the theatre and it made total sense that he pressed it. But when that same audition was shown on TV it was awful , the entertainment of the performance was just completely lost on screen and viewers were totally baffled as to why he pressed the golden buzzer. I highly doubt the audition would have made the final cut and they wouldn't have come back for the deliberations were it not for the golden buzzer.

Everyone's made aware when they've made it through the judge's audition that there's an untelevised 'producer round' between the judges round and the deliberations but really that's only for the above reason and to take out a few acts that would simply be prohibitively expensive to do live in studio; the vast majority return of acts to the deliberations.

And as to your question it was a case of there being a few acts that the producers thought would have had a good show in the semis that ended up being eliminated. I expect there's a number like that eliminated every year.


Thanks. Makes total sense that they would eliminate some acts before the deliberations, I imagine that the judges might be influenced by the feel in the theatre on the day. Cowell has said to acts on the live shows a few times over the years that their audition didn't "pop" when he watched it back in the way it did live. I guess as well that the judges put so many acts through at the auditions (well over 100 normally I believe) so it would be an awful lot of sifting to get them down to 40.

I remember that golden buzzer of David's and you're right, it did seem an odd choice on screen and no one seemed especially impressed. Ant & Dec's golden buzzer last year (the Indian kid dancing) is another that comes to mind. I can imagine that generated quite a reaction in the theatre and he's done lots of other things online I believe, but it just fell completely flat on the edited show. You can often tell when a golden buzzer is considered to be less impressive as it tends to turn up earlier in an episode rather than being a big moment later in the show.

Yes I can imagine the producers lose a few every year they'd have liked to have gone through. There was an acrobatics/dance duo from China a few years ago who had an audition aired and mustn't have made it through for whatever reason as they were never seen again. Fast forward a couple of years and they turned up on BGT Champions, introduced as finalists from Asia's Got Talent (which they were), with no mention of their previous (aired) appearance on BGT at all.
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Alan Carr's Epic Gameshow

gottago posted:
Johnr posted:
I noticed last night they didn't end the BGT auditions on the usual totally not fake at all 'deliberations' on who they (a.k.a Cowell and the producers) were putting through to the live shows,

I will just say that having worked on BGT the deliberations are actually genuine and are made on the day, much to my surprise. The exec producers were not happy with a number of their decisions but had to accept them because it is the judges' decision alone as per the rules.


Have to say I'm (pleasantly) surprised by that. I just assumed the producers would basically decide on the final 40, with some influence from the judges if they felt particularly strongly about anyone. If you don't mind me asking, was it a case of some producer favourites not making the cut?

I guess the advantage BGT has over Strictly is that it is just one week of shows, so there's the option to potentially quarantine some of the large group acts if they're up for it as it would only be for 3 weeks all in all. Compared to Strictly where it could be a case of the celebs having to live with their pro all Autumn,

It looks like they are planning for the America's Got Talent live shows to go ahead later in the Summer, so it'll be interesting to see what they do and there will be an opportunity to learn lessons for the British show.

Wonder if they will offer passes to next year's live shows for any acts unable to compete? Assume they'd have to for a golden buzzer but beyond that I'm less sure.

The Masked Singer must definitely be the most social distance friendly of these shows and the most likely to go ahead. The Voice might be alright too as its just soloists and mostly pre-recorded (the two live shows of this series are probably a bigger problem than recording auditions for next year).
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Brekkie posted:
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Champions flew under the radar a bit. Or if they really wanted a US talent show then AGT Champions might have worked, with the Cowell connection and it having some UK acts on it.

I suspect if Netflix didn't have the rights it would have been the preferred choice.


BTW who airs the revived American Idol here, and has the US version of The Voice ever aired here?

fanoftv posted:
BGT The Champions was awfully produced In places in my opinion; it was a show that nobody really wanted, and the prerecorded element with the lack of public vote just made it all seem like a non event deliberately created to meet contractual obligations with SYCO/Thames.

The pre-recorded element makes it easier to repeat and I thought most of the acts were brilliant. It should have aired live though so the public voted.


Whilst the regular version of AGT is on Netflix, Champions isn’t. The first series was on there for a while but has now gone and I’m pretty sure the second series never turned up on there, so I’m not sure who, if anyone, has the rights to that. So might have been an option.

I too thought most of the acts on BGT Champions were really good. The standard was very high and it looked great. It did lose something from being a pre-record though and the episodes were a bit long.

I think if they do another series at some point, and given the ratings were decent enough they probably will, it should be a live stripped week. What worked for the format in the US didn’t necessarily work here (the live shows are weekly on the regular show there too).
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Brekkie posted:
More likely ITV2 I'd have thought unless they really are desperate. I think ITV would have been better off rerunning last years BGT: The Champions rather than bringing in The Masked Singer USA.


Yes, a Champions rerun might have done alright. Can’t imagine it would have done any worse than Masked Singer USA will anyway. A couple of Summers ago they ran Little Big Shots USA in a similar slot and it failed to break a million. Masked Singer is obviously a bigger format but will be dragged down by a wider UK audience not recognising most of the celebrities and the ability to Google who they all are straight away.

Champions flew under the radar a bit. Or if they really wanted a US talent show then AGT Champions might have worked, with the Cowell connection and it having some UK acts on it.
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Brekkie posted:
Yes, 26% a decent return and paid off giving it the BGT lead in (I'm guessing that moving to 7pm caught many people out).

Are ITV still planning a lockdown version of Family Fortunes - wonder if Alan is in the frame for that.


BGT still got a 40% share so yes I think the slot change caught people out, although given how it worked out in Epic’s favour ITV will probably think it was worthwhile.

Haven’t heard anything since about lockdown Family Fortunes so I’m guessing not, although it could be ripe for a revival in a studio this Autumn, they’ll have enough slots to fill!
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Alan Carr's Epic Gameshow

gottago posted:
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4.3m, did very well indeed for a sunny May night. Peaked at 4.7m.

Not like people have anywhere to be!

Well except in their gardens and parks like I was! I was expecting it to be much lower to be honest. BGT was down to 6m which suggests more people were out enjoying the sun.


Yep, audiences were really low last night, so 4.3m is a great result. It would have been good anyway but especially on a night last night.

Pointless Celebrities at the same time only got half that number, it was that sort of evening.