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The Andrew Marr Show

Well I missed the programme this morning but have seen the interview and while Boris seems to try to place himself within a celebrity/political stage I found Eddie Mair's interview truly cringeworthy.

I think that he did not achieve anything in demeaning Boris on national TV and while I personally cannot be bothered with the London Mayor - Eddie was skirting around the gutter.

I am usually a fan of Eddie but he is trying too hard to be controversial and go for personal insults which is not on. The you are a nasty piece of work comment was bad journalism and does not add anything to the interview. Whether people think Boris is damaged or not, I think it bad if Eddie Mair gets plaudits for this particular interview. His ego may be further enlarged but before he becomes god like - he needs to remember two words bottle and Becks.
Last edited by STV Today on 25 March 2013 12:02am
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BBC National/News Channel from New Broadcasting House

Worzel posted:
It looks like they've rotated the desk round by 90 degrees for the papers - or is it just me?

Edit, They have Smile


It all looks good and I for one am impressed with the new look.

Titles, camera usage and graphics all very good as is the new weather area and tweak to graphics.

I also like the presenters used today (sorry being sneaky with that).

The usage of coming up at xx:xx graphics is also in to see - something different from recent updates.

The papers review is good - not sure if it is better than Sky News with this though but it is probably too early to judge this really.

Looking forward to seeing Carrie and Simon now.

Good start at NBH - well done Team BBC News keep up the good work! Wink
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BBC News Channel: Presentation

Worzel posted:
Nice handover from Breakast to NC with that TVC shot wrapped on the Barcos.

The weather team also just did their little farewell at the end of the 8am hour.


It was nice - beginning to feel this will happen now.
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BBC News Channel: Presentation

headliner101 posted:
STV Today posted:
bakamann posted:
Worzel posted:
Remember from today the BBC staff have been told to refer to the building as just 'Broadcasting House' in a memo from the big wigs.

I wonder how many presenters will accidentally slip in the 'New' bit. Laughing


but then again, it may just simply be referred to as "BBC Newsroom", which I believe is how BBC WN refers to NBH now...


Yeah I would doubt this myself - newsroom makes more sense as that is the key point for the move affecting this department. Although Worzel may be right as someone is sure to say something about the building. They will all be making the most of it which is good but they are not really the news are they!

Having them all in the same building will be interesting as a viewer as I wonder what noticeable changes we will see from this centralisation? Not sure if this is the correct place for this but weather presentation will also be affected and I for one will be interested how handovers etc will be done from today - not just for news channel but network output. Very Happy


It's not completely centralised within the UK - Breakfast and Sports programming originate from Salford.


Very true...centralised is not the word I suppose. Having so much under the same roof would merit it being the main newsroom for this department though. It will be interesting to see the difference of this to me the viewer though?
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BBC News Channel: Presentation

bakamann posted:
Worzel posted:
Remember from today the BBC staff have been told to refer to the building as just 'Broadcasting House' in a memo from the big wigs.

I wonder how many presenters will accidentally slip in the 'New' bit. Laughing


but then again, it may just simply be referred to as "BBC Newsroom", which I believe is how BBC WN refers to NBH now...


Yeah I would doubt this myself - newsroom makes more sense as that is the key point for the move affecting this department. Although Worzel may be right as someone is sure to say something about the building. They will all be making the most of it which is good but they are not really the news are they!

Having them all in the same building will be interesting as a viewer as I wonder what noticeable changes we will see from this centralisation? Not sure if this is the correct place for this but weather presentation will also be affected and I for one will be interested how handovers etc will be done from today - not just for news channel but network output. Very Happy
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BBC News: Presenters & Rotas

Worzel posted:
STV Today posted:
Worzel posted:
House posted:
Moz posted:
Moz posted:
aprilj posted:
I think it's safe to assume the new schedule will be...

08:30-11:00 Simon McCoy & Carrie Gracie
11:00-14:00 Matthew Amroliwala & Jane Hill or Ben Brown & Joanna Gosling
14:00-17:00 Ben Brown & Joanna Gosling or Matthew Amroliwala & Jane Hill
17:00-18:00 Huw Edwards
18:30-21:00 Martine Croxall
21:00-01:00 Clive Myrie

Has this been confirmed yet?

OK, so this is now confirmed as wrong. 1830-2100 is NOT Martine. She's doing Clive's shift on Fridays and the weekend.

So, who's doing 1830-2100 weekdays?


If Martine is going to be doing the late shift Thu/Fri-Sun, who won't be presenting three of those days...?


Maybe Emily's moving to an evening slot. Although that may cause problems if she needs to cover for Newsnight.

In Nick Highams report earlier both Sophie Long and Chris Eakin were seen in Studio E, so we can gather that they will still be used as relief.


I would have hoped Emily would feature in some line up.

I thought Nick's report showed the other Sophie (Rayworth) in the new studio.

Just under twelve hours to go woo hoo Very Happy


Wink

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Aw thanks Worzel you are a doll - it was a different shot perhaps report I was meaning but I've no doubt both will be used. Take it I am off your Christmas cards list after these two points Sad
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BBC News Channel: Presentation

Worzel posted:
STV Today posted:
itsrobert posted:
DanielK posted:
Yes okay, in general ( not just the BBC) why should they still get paid if it just happenes that they aren't on rota?

Aaaarggh!!!!!!!!! Because they are on a SALARY! That's what a salary is - you have a contract to work for an organisation in return for an agreed salary and annual leave entitlement. If the BBC don't want you to work on a Friday then you'll still get your monthly salary because you're a member of staff. It would be a totally different case for a freelancer as they are paid for the hours they work.


Yeah that is daft (Sorry DanielK cannot get your point with this one at all) and was not even an area I covered in my last post a few moments ago.

Hey let us just sit back and try to look forward in a nice way to tomorrow at 1pm. I for one hope there are no muck ups for them.

Night all - tomorrow is a big day Very Happy


Should this not be in the presenters & rotas thread? I know this thread will be locked later anyway, but... well, you know.

I'm also off - will be up at 8:30 to see the last Breakfast to NC TVC handover - and to see Mr McCoy and co lead in to NBH later today.

BTW: RIP Nighttime Barco backdrop - we won't see that on screen again.


Indeed it should - guess with so many points going on at the moment we are perhaps crossing boundaries and breaking rules. Anyway as a middle aged mum I can tell my kids I am still a rebel - even staying up at this time is very naughty Wink

Nighty night
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BBC News Channel: Presentation

harshy posted:
The graphics has crashed on BBC News channel over newsday, fixed now at 1:02


Oh sugar - hope the Grelims are sorted!
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BBC News: Presenters & Rotas

Worzel posted:
House posted:
Moz posted:
Moz posted:
aprilj posted:
I think it's safe to assume the new schedule will be...

08:30-11:00 Simon McCoy & Carrie Gracie
11:00-14:00 Matthew Amroliwala & Jane Hill or Ben Brown & Joanna Gosling
14:00-17:00 Ben Brown & Joanna Gosling or Matthew Amroliwala & Jane Hill
17:00-18:00 Huw Edwards
18:30-21:00 Martine Croxall
21:00-01:00 Clive Myrie

Has this been confirmed yet?

OK, so this is now confirmed as wrong. 1830-2100 is NOT Martine. She's doing Clive's shift on Fridays and the weekend.

So, who's doing 1830-2100 weekdays?


If Martine is going to be doing the late shift Thu/Fri-Sun, who won't be presenting three of those days...?


Maybe Emily's moving to an evening slot. Although that may cause problems if she needs to cover for Newsnight.

In Nick Highams report earlier both Sophie Long and Chris Eakin were seen in Studio E, so we can gather that they will still be used as relief.


I would have hoped Emily would feature in some line up.

I thought Nick's report showed the other Sophie (Rayworth) in the new studio.

Just under twelve hours to go woo hoo Very Happy
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BBC News Channel: Presentation

itsrobert posted:
DanielK posted:
Yes okay, in general ( not just the BBC) why should they still get paid if it just happenes that they aren't on rota?

Aaaarggh!!!!!!!!! Because they are on a SALARY! That's what a salary is - you have a contract to work for an organisation in return for an agreed salary and annual leave entitlement. If the BBC don't want you to work on a Friday then you'll still get your monthly salary because you're a member of staff. It would be a totally different case for a freelancer as they are paid for the hours they work.


Yeah that is daft (Sorry DanielK cannot get your point with this one at all) and was not even an area I covered in my last post a few moments ago.

Hey let us just sit back and try to look forward in a nice way to tomorrow at 1pm. I for one hope there are no muck ups for them.

Night all - tomorrow is a big day Very Happy
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BBC News Channel: Presentation

Moz posted:
itsrobert posted:
Daniel, that is a very simplistic and naive view of how these things work. If you think the National presenter only works for half an hour with a bit of prep time before then you're mistaken. There's a lot more to it behind the scenes than that. Just take a look at some of the behind the scenes videos on YouTube. There are meetings to attend, scripts to prepare, correspondents with whom to liaise. They don't just turn up a few minutes before TX and read words that other people have written.

And I really wouldn't get into salaries if I were you. For a start, that is a very personal thing and is rather tasteless to speculate about; and secondly, it's frightfully complicated as some will be staffers and others freelance and thus paid by the hour. And hours don't just equate to on air time, either.

I take issue with most what is said above.

Why does it take the presenter of a 30 minute bulletin more time to prepare for something that a News Channel presenter just has to deal with if it breaks when their on air. It's the NC presenters who work harder?

As for salaries? Why are they so secret? They're civil servants in effect and we pay their wages, so we should be told what they earn.


Gosh, I think it is a valid point to debate even though I have no strong opinion. There are valid points from both sides but it depends on what the jobs entail. Editorially, I did not think network bulletin presenters where as involved as American network anchors yet nor did I think that presenters plonked their rear ends in front of a camera to address the nation who do nothing else. My understanding it is somewhere in between.

Personally, I think salaries are none of my business (as is mine to them) yet I think duties and what presenters do is a valid area of discussion here. Most companies are asking their staff to do more for the same money and I cannot see why the BBC should be exempt from this approach.

Moira Stuart was allegedly dumped for not being a journalist and the BBC have made much noise about their presenters being journalists and involved in programmes and output decisions and I can see the value of this. However, there is nothing wrong with having George, Huw, Sophie etc involved in other BBC News output throughout the working day. Sophie is the only one who is linked with one programme but she regularly presents the One and Six bulletins as does Fiona when she is on, so they are hardly lazy.

Sophie was involved in Watchdog Daily and Fiona does AR and Huw is also involved in BBC Wales output from what I can gather so they turn their hands to various things folks. I actually think that they find this half the appeal of doing what they do?

Going forward I would hope there is scope for presenters to be involved in various output; however, I do not think it silly or even naïve to make comment about this.

As for graphics, titles, music and style of the channel and bulletins - I doubt there will be much change tomorrow. Moving to a new home is a challenge enough and when Sky News did all this at once it did not do them any favours. If there is to be a radical change to the look of BBC New, I'd imagine this will be in years to come and not months. They are doing well in ratings so if it ain't broke...
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Sky News: Presentation Discussion

Any reason there is no papers review at half nine tonight?