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New BBC Local Radio jingles

Inspector Sands posted:
DeMarkay posted:
I’m grateful that London finally has the new package. However, I very much dislike the voices chosen.

The female voice that says “Play BBC Radio London” can barely be heard and the words seem congealed together, plus the male voice that says “The Sound of London... is BBC Radio London” is not strong or authoritative enough.

I wonder who the people that say 'play Radio Somewhere' are? They're obviously all from the area the station broadcasts to due to the accents, but wonder if they're members of the public or someone at the station who sounds the part


Cumbria’s is one of the station’s presenters.
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BBC regional news - Now with added Reith

marshmallow posted:
ashley b posted:
A night time version of NWT’s titles just tweeted by Roger Johnson


The NWT titles this lunchtime were definitely the best of the bunch. Using drone shots exclusively looks much better than the mishmash of drone shots and people awkwardly getting up to things that other regions have used. These nightime versions are even better.


The North West ones also have a different list of places with each shot (one for each county plus IOM). An attention to detail I’ve not seen on the other regions which have the same list of places on the ring throughout.
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ITV Granada Lookaround Calendar Reports

Brekkie posted:
Endcap crediting Border, Calendar and Granada with the hashtag #ONENORTH


Randomly Border ducked out to go to the weather on the wide shot of Preston station before the endcap appeared.
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The Yorkshire and Lincolnshire Thread

South Today posted:
Austin Tatious posted:
South Today posted:
Special edition of Calendar, Granada Reports and Lookaround all joining up together to cover the ongoing rail chaos across the North. Tony Morris and Christine Talbot will be presenting the programme live from Preston station.


Did/do the rail problems not also effect the North East? (And were/are they relevant to Border Scotland or not?)

If Tyne Tees is not joining in, then they'll presumably have to be the pre-recorded programme tonight.

Will any Lookaround presenters/reporters appear? It'll be a bit weird for Border viewers to get literally nothing but unknown names & faces.


The Tyne Tees area hasn't been anywhere nearly badly affected by the Northern problems. I imagine Tim Backshall will pop up with a report or an OB for the Lakes line.


The guy who did the OB from the Border region was a Granada reporter not a Border one - from the little involvement I had setting up one of the interviewees the whole thing was organised and run by Granada - and Border Tyne Tees had nothing to do with it, they just took it for the Border bit of the region and inserted their local news - which was very Scottish focussed - in the middle.
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BBC North West Tonight coverage of Cumbria

Brekkie posted:
How much of an overlap in terrestrial coverage is there in Cumbria - I suspect in some areas people make the choice for themselves what they receive.

It's never that straight forward too - certainly growing up in North East Wales we had access to Granada, Central and HTV Wales and at times all of them were the primary channel on the main set. All three centred news coverage on cities miles away from where we lived but all three covered relevant local areas too - and if there was a story of interest we'd tune in to the most relevant bulletin.

To be honest with local news on the BBC and ITV it's rarely the locality that matters to me - it's the story itself which has to resonate.


Virtually no overlap at all on BBC - the fell range pretty neatly divides transmitters fed by Winter Hill and those fed by Caldbeck.

ITV is different - Kendal and the South Lakes relays are fed ITV and C4 from Caldbeck via Kendal, so there’s a fairly hefty area where you can see a transmitter based in Cumbria (which transmits Border) and one based in Lancashire (Lancaster or Winter Hill itself - which transmit Granada).
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BBC North West Tonight coverage of Cumbria

Two distinct points - one BBC and one ITV related.

On the BBC, Look North have an amount of time they target for coverage of news from North and West Cumbria, so regardless of anything else the top stories from Cumbria get airtime. So far as I’m aware, North West Tonight don’t have anything similar so a story from South Cumbria has to be newsworthy enough to compete is what’s already a bigger region. As a result, I’d argue Newcastle gives the better deal that Manchester.

On ITV, we get Border on SD but Granada on HD and +1 (which isn’t unusual I realise - but does enable comparison of the two bulletins) - Border gives South Cumbria by far the best coverage in what for ITV (as opposed to BBC) is an overlap area, and I don’t know anyone who chooses to watch Granada over Border if they have the choice. The days of people in South Cumbria pointing their aerials at Lancaster for better non news programming have obviously long since gone with a common ITV.
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BBC News Channel Presentation - 21/03/16 onwards

Steve in Pudsey posted:
So are they just making greater use of Simon or are there reasons why they can't do these forecasts from NBH?

Perhaps some staff tied up or facilities being used for training on the new system?


Isn't it just the case that this week the Breakfast weather presenter (Matt Taylor, as it happens) has been on location so there isn't someone in NBH to do the weather on Victoria Derbyshire unless they bring someone else in. At which point if Simon King is available, albeit in Salford, they might as well use him. If the Breakfast forecasts have been done from NBH - be it Carol or anyone else - then they are in NBH for the later forecasts.
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BBC News Channel Presentation - 21/03/16 onwards

Worzel posted:
i-lied posted:
London Lite posted:

Breaking news from Turkey has changed the schedule again.


Has it evolved so much that they need to change the schedule? The Papers times were announced by her during the regional news slot on the 10 opening.


I'd say yes. It potentially could be one of the biggest overthrows of a government in recent times, could cause unrest and bloodshed on the streets of Turkey and there's a potential hostage situation as well.


They'd obviously already pulled the Sport by then, otherwise that would have been the bit during the regional teaser slot. But two massive international stories at once will understandably cause some chaos in the schedules.
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Turkey 'Coup' 15-Jul-2016

thegeek posted:
Well, BBC One and the News Channel have gone with the Ten as normal (double-headed from Nice) - I can only assume World News America is also doing a regular-ish bulletin and not rolling news, as that would be a somewhat more sensible option given the story's still developing.

Sky now have a correspondent in vision in Istanbul, in a split-screen with Turkish TV.


News Channel flipped to World News America half way through a report to crash into news from Turkey
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ITV Schools on Channel 4 1987-1993

Markymark posted:
deejay posted:
... And until 1992, ITV regional contractors (plus TVam and Oracle) and Channel 4 were independent companies providing programmes to networks owned by the Independent Broadcasting Authority. The IBA owned the transmitters and the networks, the companies made the programmes (or in channel 4's case, commissioned them). The IBA also made the rules and enforced them very strongly.


To put it simply, the IBA was the Broadcaster , the ITV companies were 'programme contractors'

C4 was a wholly owned subsidiary of the IBA I think. Pre 1993 the ITV companies paid a levy to fund C4. In return they sold, and retained the money from the ad breaks on their patches.

Post 1993, C4 sold and played out its own advertising, all from London, to six 'macro' regions

LEMNUS

London
East and South (Anglia, TVS, HTV, Westcountry, CI regions)
Midlands (Central)
North (Granada, YTV, Tyne Tees, English part of Border)
Ulster
Scotland (STV, Grampian, and Scottish part of Border)

If there were any opt outs post 1993, then Scotland and Ulster would have been very easy

The LEMNUS regions still exist to this day on C4's SD (non +1) platforms


The English part of Border also gets the Scottish ads under LEMNUS. It's a bit odd seeing a Scottish Government 'advert' when you're sat in the South Lakes.
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Events leading up to ITV Oct. 2002 rebranding

Austin Tatious posted:
Maaixuew posted:
So if that's the case, is there any reason (other than financial) why ITV could not introduce regional identities again?


Presumably it's physically possible for multiple synchronised idents to be played out simultaneously from one playout location, and the CA either verbally avoiding using any channel name other than "ITV" regardless of what the visual idents say, or for pre-recorded accompanying voiceovers (name-checking the respective regions) to be added to the idents in advance.

But its never gonna happen. ITV plc (sensibly) want the channel to be known by a single national name as far as possible, not a multitude of disparate regional names. Them days won't ever come back.


It's not just physically possible - it's actually possible (or at least we get localised announcements into Lookaround at 6pm, and they can obviously cope with the Border England / Border Scotland programming split). But as you say, aside from some odd regional variations (of which we and Wales get more than most) why would they want to.
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BBC North West Tonight





Got the News Channel instead for the duration of the bulletin, crashing half way through a sport report into the Weather.