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Paul Clark2,857 posts since 30 Sep 2004
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Every BBC1 Christmas ident 1966-2017



AIUI the 1976 snowflake at 0:18 in this montage is a re-creation that found its way into the mix...

The 1974 - 2017 montage (retweeted by TVF) shows the original symbol.
Paul Clark2,857 posts since 30 Sep 2004
HTV West Points West

Major Adverts campaigns that just disappeared

Right after posting the link earlier it suddenly dawned on me I actually have the original Movie Premiere airing of Groundhog Day from October 1996 on a Betamax tape I ended up with. I've checked and despite what the article said was planned in August, it certainly doesn't look the Castlemaine batch actually aired during this film (that's in the Anglia region) - although there is what was presumably a specially put together Ford Escort advert in one break, which repeats a sequence over and over again!



My memory of the Groundhog Day airing here in HTV land tallies exactly with this. I first checked out this topic before the above post was made, and the 'repeating' Ford Escort campaign during the film was something I immediately thought of. I knew it was a car ad, but wasn't sure which brand - thanks for confirming. ISTR it dominated the break.

The apparent Castlemaine campaign planned for the film is not something I recall seeing here. Though that doesn't necessarily mean it didn't exist.
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Paul Clark2,857 posts since 30 Sep 2004
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Missing Presentation thread

Now if we could just get a few versions of the breakfiller, this forum is destined to remain in our memories beyond eternity.

If I had the breakfiller, I'd have added it to the compilation for upload by Rob... Alas.


From memory, I probably didn't keep an example of it (I know exactly what you refer to - I recall looking up that Craig Armstrong track at the time). But, though unlikely, still a slim chance it may still exist here if an unedited recording of the preview is lying around on another disk. And of course there may be others who do have a recording... So, never say never.
Paul Clark2,857 posts since 30 Sep 2004
HTV West Points West

Missing Presentation thread

Does BBC HD count towards these missing idents?

I'm specifically referring to the trial period from mid 2006 to late 2007. I've searched YouTube for them but never tracked them down.

What I'd love to see again and have restored to a readily archive (in proper aspect ratio, of course) would be...

* long and short BBC HD ident (with the first version of the music)
* breakfiller (not sure if that's the correct word but before it became an official channel, nearly all gaps between programmes consisted of a montage from BBC HD shows with Craig Armstrong's "Ball" as the music) (multiple version exist of this with 30 second versions and two minute versions)
* coming up slides

Thanks for raising this; I hadn't known the Pres from the 2006 - 2007 period was so scarce.


Examples of the 3 lengths of ident (though sadly not in HD) should be online soon...
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Paul Clark2,857 posts since 30 Sep 2004
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YouTube Gold

James is right... Though it's not massively slower - pitch-wise, about a semitone lower - it is slower than the usual play speed.

To me, it sounded 'wrong' as soon as the first note came in - but then, I have seen a fair few closedowns. If you weren't familiar with the usual speed and pitch, you'd think nothing of it.
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Paul Clark2,857 posts since 30 Sep 2004
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BBC Two 2015 with 90s idents

Just noticed, the colours of the filaments are different compared to the Network copy I posted earlier on this page.

That's those jolly decent folks at BBC NI following the order of colours in the rainbow flag, something that Network botched.


I was thinking the very same...

Indeed, in every respect, the NI version just looks a whole lot nicer.
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Paul Clark2,857 posts since 30 Sep 2004
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BBC Christmas presentation

I have come across this nice in correct order and date montage. Strangely in 1980 BBC has a computer ident and then switched back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHiuX2N63JQ



As you're sometimes a stickler for accuracy of information - that's wrong on both counts.

It's been confirmed the model marked as '1974' in that video was not used that year - instead, a slight variation on 1975, with 'Christmas on BBC 1' displayed underneath.

Not quite sure how you got the idea that 1980 symbol was computerised... The video shows a traditional promo animation, followed by two versions of the symbol with the revolving figurines.

Compared to some earlier years, Pres sites have had an easier time with 1980 material - TVL actually features one of the symbols on a page you've edited yourself - which might explain why your comments have so baffled me!
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Paul Clark2,857 posts since 30 Sep 2004
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Dylan Thomas prog. tonight on ITV Wails

Subtitles are one thing, and excusable, given they are often generated from speech recognition devices, but I understand Sky News had the following as a breaking news caption on Sunday: BRITISH WITH DRAWAL

A BBC News strap earlier this year , around the time of the D-Day anniversary, had World War II typed in shorthand as ' WW11 '


Which of course would be no problem with Gill Sans's default numeral "1".

The current astons don't use Gill... Are you trapped in a previous era? Wink
Paul Clark2,857 posts since 30 Sep 2004
HTV West Points West

BBC Two 50th Year Presentation

Not sure when it first aired, but has appeared around this time over the past several years on-and-off (much like other sequences - of the seasons, Spring was seen at least a few years back, as was the version that fades between all four).

Looked until recently this year that idents in general weren't being used in the Learning Zone at all... So it's good to see the likes of this and the long version idents have resumed.
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