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NJ
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Compliant or not Compliant

ciaran posted:
Hi! You know today I've been reading this topic and I cannot see anything wrong with The TV Room site or that Bail Online site. Now I don't know if it's just my computer but I can't see any HTML code on those sites at all! Unless I'm talking nonsense, well if so sorry but just wanted to let you all know.


To view HTML code:

Go to a web page, right-click and choose "View Source", or appropriate option. Try it now.

The HTML code is not supposed to be seen as such (although that in itself doesn't justify those annoying "no right click" scripts), it's just code to tell the browser how to show the page.
NJ
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The Hidden Hearing Ad

Hymagumba posted:
Andrew posted:
Oh and has everyone seen that new 118 118 advert?


urgh
11 88 88 is better.


I beg to differ. Couldn't look anymore American styled if it tried Smile
NJ
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Compliant or not Compliant

Bail posted:
Stop fighting over one site, if you want bad coding look here. www.bailonline.co.uk its not a plug for my site, but if anyone wants to help remove the millions of bits of excess code... have a look you'll see what I mean.


Hmm, I do question the excess presence of this sort of stuff:

[code:1:1e04b564e8] <tr>
<td width="20" height="12" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 8.5pt; color: #FFCC00" align="center"></td>
<td width="182" height="12" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 8.5pt; color: #FFCC00" align="center">
</td>
<td width="19" height="12" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 8.5pt; color: #FFCC00" align="center"></td>
<td width="17" height="12" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 8.5pt; color: #FFCC00"></td>
</tr>[/code:1:1e04b564e8]

Not really any point setting styles up for an empty cell... Just as quick to do a Find & Replace in Wordpad and replace it with:

[code:1:1e04b564e8]<td>&nbsp;</td>[/code:1:1e04b564e8]

Likewise for cells with images on the background. (Netscape 4 refused to show a background image in a table cell if there was no content in it)

Apart from that it isn't as bad code wise as some sites, although the same arguments can be applied here on the FONT tags as I outlined earlier in this thread.
NJ
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Keeping Up Appearances

SkyTelevision posted:
Keeping Up Appearances was one of my favourite sitcoms of the 1990's and I say lets bring it back even it was just a Christmas Special I would love to see Hyacinth bucket (Bouquet) back again does everyone else agree. Very Happy


These are shown every so often on Sundays - there's an episode today at 12:30 on BBC One.
NJ
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The Hidden Hearing Ad

nwtv2003 posted:
But most of the ads on the ITV News Channel are like that, or are usually for loans and insurance. But the best one at the moment is the one for the 2 Ab Belts for £20! That is so hilarious and is really poorly dubbed, it is worth watching the ITV News Channel just for that.


Oh I've seen that one, is it the infomerial one with the lady who claims to be wearing such a thing while doing the links for the infomercial?

Challenge are particularly fond of showing this at mealtimes, just the sort of thing you want to see, vibrating flab (wouldn't mind so much if it wasn't the same zooming in piece of film used four times throughout the infomercial). Mad
NJ
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Compliant or not Compliant

martinDTanderson posted:
Internet Explorer has 95% market saturation, and so designing for Internet Explorer is the ideal situation.


Okay, say you run an online shop. Let's say you have 1000 visitors a month. You say designing for IE is an ideal situation wiht 95% share. So you're prepared to turn away the custom of 50 users each month just because they don't use Internet Explorer. So each year you're turning away the custom of 600 users because your site only looks pretty in Internet Explorer.

And how about non Windows systems? Microsoft are discontinuing IE on the Mac apparently. You not accepting Mac users' business in your online shop due to the wrong browser or wrong operating system?
NJ
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Compliant or not Compliant

The TV Room posted:
Hymagumba posted:
It's not me not doing a very good job it's me doing a point proving rush job Very Happy.

It is definately possible to get it looking (nearly) identical but it would take a lot of work and time.


Quite what your point is I'm not sure.


I think the point was that you can shave quite a lot of HTML content off the original page which saves bandwith/data transfer which in turn saves you money on the hosting of the site.

I mean, it might only look like:

[code:1:7529841dc0]<font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"></font>[/code:1:7529841dc0]

which is only 42 bytes in itself but if you was to do this:

[code:1:7529841dc0]
<style type="text/css">
<!--
P { font-family: "Trebuchet MS", Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 13px;
}
-->
</style>
[/code:1:7529841dc0]

Then instead of writing this:

[code:1:7529841dc0]<font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2">Regional News pages are brought up-to-date with images and
video footage of current presentation.&nbsp; <b>Updates:</b> East, Midlands,
North, NE &amp; Cumbria and Wales revised.</font>[/code:1:7529841dc0]

You just need this:

[code:1:7529841dc0]<p>Regional News pages are brought up-to-date with images and
video footage of current presentation.&nbsp; <b>Updates:</b> East, Midlands,
North, NE &amp; Cumbria and Wales revised.</font>[/code:1:7529841dc0]

Might only save 42 bytes per paragraph but multiply that by the number of paragraphs across the entire site (let's say 500 paragraphs) = 42*500 = 20.5k (rounded)

So now, for each visitor, they're saving 20.5k. Now say you have 500 visitors a month. 20.5 * 500 = 10Mb. (rounded).

That's 120Mb of data transfer a year that you save in this example alone.

Of course, can always save more data transfer with optimised images and so on but this is an example.
NJ
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The Beano thinks TV wasn't around in 1938!

Larry Scutta posted:
It also depends what part of the country the strip was set. Only London had TV until long after the war. So if they are outside London (which is quite certain) then the text was quite correct


Most likely set in its long-running area of "Beanotown", location of which could honestly be anywhere. But from the strips, it would appear to be some far-flung village somewhere which rules out London full-stop.
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News 24 Ticker

I REALLY hate HTV West posted:
... and let's not forget that nice survey from earlier this week saying the BBC is the most trusted TV news organisation... Sky News got 11% compared to near 60% for the Beeb.


Only because more people watch the BBC anyway, as the News at Ten/When ratings constantly show. And that's only 60% of those polled - who knows how many people they asked? Perhaps most of those asked don't have Sky Digital or Freeview or Cable so when it comes down to it there's really only two choices - BBC or ITN (split three ways for ITV, Ch4 and Five).

Sky News gets my vote anyway - more interesting for a start with decent presenters, good use of the newswall (both for the powerpoint type presentations and backdrop effects) and just general speediness (plus it was first and the Beeb only set theirs up in the first place to prove that they could do something similiar)

I found this independent review of News 24 from 2002 which seems relevant to this thread - it's a PDF file viewed as HTML through Google's cache:

Google Cache

Original PDF File
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You've Been Framed

I like the idea of the new style of the show as outlined here but I have to agree that I think the previous format was getting a bit tired.

How many times has Denis Norden told us that his clips are "brand new" and how many of them actually were? I wonder if it'll be the same story here?

Roll on September and lets have a look Smile
NJ
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Closed TV Stations

Larry Scutta posted:
Digifiend posted:
Larry Scutta posted:
Nick At Night never launched either
Yes it did - as The Paramount Channel (now Paramount Comedy Channel)


They're completely diffrent channels though, Nick at Night is not the same as Paramount Comedy. Even though they once broadcast on the same channel and are owned by the same company they shouldn't be confused


This used to be one of the FAQs on Paramount Text I recall, or at least it was answered in this way at least a few dozen times in PText's Mailbox section.

Paramount has, as said, never claimed to be Nick at Night. It's probably because Paramount used to start at 7pm straight after Nick finished that people thought it was Nick at Night. You'd have thought by now surely that as Paramount now broadcasts pretty much all day and Nick is also on air up to 11pm on its Replay Channel, it'd be pretty obvious that it can't be Nick at Night? Smile
NJ
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Timeshifted Channels

I don't see much point in some +1 channels really because if you wait long enough anyway, the same material comes up again in a different timeslot on the main channel anyway.

Key examples include Fox Kids, Nickelodeon and the Disney Channel. All their programmes are repeats anyway - none of them need more one showing a day let alone two hours to understand - how many times has Clarissa Explains It All (A Nick US prog from 1991) gone round through Nick UK by now for example? Same with Mellisa Joan Hart's other ventures.

Having said that though, other types of material is more suited I think to the +1 era. Like the History Channel where if you get distracted by the phone, you won't understand the entire story. So catch the missing bits next hour. I'd say the same for the Biography channel if they had one but I never know who half the people are who they show bios of. Smile