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Continuity Announcer

InteractiveTV posted:

What exactly is a 'Continuity Announcer'?

Thank you. Smile


I can understand you not knowing, there are several cultural and political hoops to go though in order to get at this one.

Firstly, imagine that a continuity announcer is (I know that this is difficult) :- an actual real and live person, that is one who does actually genuinely exist. Probably a member of EQUITY, but human none the less, not a server.

That this actual, real, live person exists is evident, because in many cases you can actually see them. Now, as well as appeearing in-vision occasionally, they actually tell you useful things, like what’s going to be on the telly, or if its going to rain. They even used to read the regional news, and congratulate kids on their birthdays.

Some of these continuity announcers, the ones who worked for the BBC that is, used to control the output, put themselves in vision, show a slide, play a gram (cart) and even opt-in and out. As this was Look North, they were probably referring to Brian Baines, one of the stars of regional BBC in the North.

Over on ITV, although not self-op, the announcers were always there, and used to interrupt if nasty thing happened, like the Post Office (BT) cutting up the wrong circuit (feed), thus delivering the wrong programme.

Rather than todays rather laid back approach announcements were made with some pride and gravitas :-

"This is BBC North from Leeds"

or

"This is Angla"

Very Happy We even had a proper Labour government as well!
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MrStrawsonsSheep

Regional ITV

North East posted:
What can be done to save regional tv? and why is the regulator looking out for ITV plc's shareholders rather than the viewers. ......... Can anything be done??


It ought to be possible, yes.

OfCom need to define a standard level of commitment for regional programming on all of UK commercial TV in terms :-

(a) News, (b) Non-news, (c) Production and , (d) Granularity.

Having got an idea of what they would like to see, they do what the old IBA used to do and simply allocate the resources to contractors who commit to provide the service. In the good old days, this meant issuing a juicy licence to print money, which was fought over by fractious fractions of the local establishment. Nowadays perhaps a more pragmatic approach is needed.

The solution might be;

Idea Determine the level of acceptable regional service, and then set-out to advertise for a provider.

Arrow The provider could be paid either by receiving a discount on their licence payments. This would apply to five and ITV, and actually represents only a minor extension of the de-facto conditions under which ITV currently operate.

Arrow If the provider were C4 or anyone else, then fund them to provide a regional service; but, pitch the level of funding at a point where they can break even, but still have to sell local advertising. (The local press will hate this. ) In this case the funding source could either be the licence payments of other broadcasters, or the television licence fee. This would be in line with the OfComunists famous recent PSB initiative.

Arrow An further variation would be to redraw the Channel 3 clock so that ITV were not the Channel 3 licencee between 1730 and 1900. This would then be licenced to differing local programme providers. This would in effect, force ITV to re-adopt a federal structure where it actually mattered. Air time could be trading and ad revenue swapped with the third-party locals in order to gain a seamless schedule.

Arrow Placing ITN into the local's air-time as a nominated national news provider, would concentrate minds yet further, allowing for the development of a national/local bulletin pattern rather like today’s. If the locals were allowed to take a stake in ITN, this would act to resolve the diversity issue that would otherwise come to a head when ITV buy-up DGMT and the other minority shareholders.

Arrow Even without ITV co-operation (with or without gritted teeth), the locals would have gained in the 1730->1900 slot, something that in other developed countries regarded as a very valuable commercial property.

Idea Got to say though, that if five do get any bigger (and especially if a 4/5 sales house starts up), then they should also be required to-do regional programming, including news; or to share the cost of someone else being appointed to provide the service.
Last edited by MrStrawsonsSheep on 7 November 2004 8:06pm - 2 times in total
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MrStrawsonsSheep

Peterborough mast fire

Flextech TV posted:
James Vertigan posted:
Here are some rather eerie looking photos of the mangled wreck of the mast, from the Digital Spy radio forums (with credit to "MicroSmurf"):

http://www.bthshome.plus.com/misc/153659.jpg
http://www.bthshome.plus.com/misc/153808.jpg
http://www.bthshome.plus.com/misc/153724.jpg
http://www.bthshome.plus.com/misc/153709.jpg


Which one is it, the one up or the one down?


Thanks - brilliant pics of BT Morbone Hill!

The FM is back now from the BT tower, presumably to stay there for ever.

Was this an NGT insurance job?
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MrStrawsonsSheep

Goodbye Granada Plus

How did Granada Plus close?

Did they let the running programme end, or just pull the plug? What has happened to the advertisers, do they get a credit, or compensating air-time on ITV-3?

Rgds/
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MrStrawsonsSheep

ITV3 Launch

Juicy Joe posted:
......... at the moment but I can get ITV3 but NOT ITV2 yet? Or will they encrypt it wihin a few days?


Thanks - that's the answer. If it was goung to be a subscription channel on D-SAT then presumably it would just have inherited Granada Plus's package membership.

Juicy Joe - you've confirmed that ITV-3 is free-to-view (FTV) on the Sky platform; presumably you don't mean that its free-to-air (FTA), ie unencrypted. The only way to check that would be to remove your viewer card, and scan to see if you can see the channel. If ITV-3 were FTA, then that would be a big move.

OT/ BTW - I lied about not having access to a TV. Anorak that I am, I actually went into Hounslow at lunch time to buy a dispay and DTT box, just so that I can stay up all night and see who will follow on from George W to be the next US President.

It could be Kerry, or it could be Hilary Clinton.

Much as I hate Bush and Cheney, I have to say that the US could do with a female President, and Bill would make and excellent consort.

In case President Clinton reads TV Forum , here's wishing you a speedy recovery.
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MrStrawsonsSheep

ITV3 Launch

Not being able to get near a TV this week (work and Busitis), could anone answer this question?

Is ITV-3 on D-SAT FTV, or within the Sky basic package, as ITV-2 is and Granada Plus was?

Infact, could anyone confirm that ITV-2 has not gone PPV?

Many thanks for all that.

Here's wishing Mr Kerry a good day!
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MrStrawsonsSheep

The Yorkshire and Lincolnshire Thread

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Poetry in motion, all the way back to Kent House! P45s all round, increaced dividends and big bonuses for senior managament. Yeehhh!!

Man holds skull in hand - "alas poor Donald Baverstock, I knew him well"
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MrStrawsonsSheep

The Yorkshire and Lincolnshire Thread

(Quote removed)


Poetry in motion, all the way back to Kent House! P45s all round, increaced dividends and big bonuses for senior managament. Yeehhh!!

Man holds skull in hand - "alas poor Donald Baverstock, I knew him well"
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MrStrawsonsSheep

Sky News reporting from helicopter above New York

Hatton Cross posted:
Hatton Cross - Not quite Heathrow, but near enough to have a reasonable stab .

chromakey posted:
[Just out of interest Hatton... what does your signature mean? "A reasonable stab"... ...You live in the West Midlands... so just what is all this rubbish about?


Not rubbish at all. Mr Cross is talking sense, although perhaps the word stab may be offensive in relation to the Hatton X/Hounslow section of the Picc line.

Pity I didn't have my camera today, otherwise I could have posted a pic of some bods this morning, up on a cherry picker servicing the feed horn on Heathrow's 23cm radar head.

Obviously the head was neither turning, nor hot at the time, but still it would have made an interesting pic.
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MrStrawsonsSheep

granada or itv granada ?

ohwhatanight posted:
..... Granada are allowed to retain their regional identity name of Granada even though its totally meaningless and doesnt actually reflect any image about its location in the slightest!

Neil Green posted:
Breathe deeply.........


All they have to do to make ITV Granada a name that reflects a proper regional title, would be to open a new ITV Region in Gibralter!

Thump a half decent signal up the Costa del Sol and they may even get some ad revenues out of the thing.
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MrStrawsonsSheep

ITV Companies

Blob posted:
ITV Dotcom Ltd

What a joke Laughing


No - you cant register company names as ".com" in the UK, so ITV Dotcom Limited is the only form available to them. The purpose is to protect the name of the thing, not as a domain name but as a company and trading alias.

I think that you'll find that Anglia, Yorksshire etc all trade a companies under their own names as well. The regional licences are still in force, and held by subsidiaries of the former regional holding companies.
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MrStrawsonsSheep

granada or itv granada ?

Jez posted:

IAnd it makes sence to have the news and the channel the same, it was daft having HTV News on ITV1 Wales .


ITV Harlech sounds great! How about ITV TWW , which could then go bust!

Seriously though, the branding is less of a mess than it appears. If the main branding is a set of hree letters with "TV" in it, then you can only have one of these. HTV had to go, but the underlying Harlech is well lost as a brand, so would have been pointless.

All the other names are strong brands that are consistently, not quite the offical description of an area, but always very descriptive of it. So ITV would be daft to drop Anglia, Border, Meridien, Central Westcountry, Tyne-Tees or even Yorkshire.

Granada and London are actually the least descriptive geographically, although Granada is a pretty powerful brand locally, and the alternative would have them using the BBC's North West tag.

ITV would have to pay-up for this, but I'd guess that ITV Thames would be a pretty good local brand to adopt in London.
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