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GB News Launches on Social Media

don't get all the defensiveness? GB News itself has fuelled that "silly speculation" - deliberately.
Its chairman and highest profile frontman wrote a column for the Express just recently attacking "woke warriors", he chairs the Spectator. It's positioned itself as speaking for the 'underserved' 'outside of London' (i somehow don't think they mean minority communities, but happy to be proved wrong).
It's first high profile signing was an ex-Sun columnist from talkradio - his confected standpoint on many issues is there, on the record.
Nothing wrong with any of this of course but no use pretending otherwise.
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The ITN Nostalgia Thread

Brekkie posted:
chris posted:
Brekkie posted:
I do think a straight forward headline news style service is what is missing more from the market at the moment than rolling news or conversational news. ITN obviously launched way back in 2000 to fill that gap with I think initially a 15 minute cycle which evolved to 30 minutes. ITV News Channel didn't stray far from that initially, but it evolved with the War on Saddam coverage and more so with the 2004 revamp, but of the three channels at the time ITV News were still the best shot of getting an actual news bulletin every hour rather than staying with press conferences or analysing breaking news for longer than was required.


I’m not convinced there’s the appetite for it when you can quickly get headlines and read the news online.

The ratings of the flagship evening bulletins very much suggest otherwise.


a tightly produced bulletin aimed at a mass audience and a rolling news channel are two very different products. there is absolutely zero evidence of demand commercially or audience wise for an ITN-style news channel when we're already served by two. The BBC/ITV national and regional news bulletins still remain massively important though.
The importance of social media clips is probably overstated but broadcasters need to position themselves on where to reach new and younger audiences and remain relevant in years to come and that is strictly online.
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GB News

there's no evidence of any appeal for a channel like that now, at all. I'm stunned anyone is launching a news channel in 2021.
some of the literature around this launch is so Fox-like: 'impartial journalism', 'range of voices' which ultimately moved the discourse in the US to the right, with everything else labelled liberal and far-left.
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Kay Burley off air for 6 months

Joe posted:
Just a small comment – some have said that Burley effectively gets a six month paid holiday. I completely accept that as suspensions go, it’s quite jammy, and I’d dearly love six paid months off work! However, if I put myself in her shoes I also think there’s a level of humiliation there. If I’d something wrong and didn’t come into work for that long, knowing that my colleagues knew exactly why I’d be pretty embarrassed and I’d dread coming back. Add onto that that the wider public also know, that’s not a position I’d like to be in. By the end of the half year I’d be both craving and dreading coming back.

Please don’t misunderstand – I’m not suggesting that makes it a complete horror show for her, nor do I necessarily think she’d have the same take on it. But I did think it was worth mentioning that it’s not quite the same as annual leave.


this is true. whatever you think of her she clearly loves her job. one of the reasons for her longevity. so it is a punishment to be prevented from doing it for six months so publicly.
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The Sky News Thread

agreed. I'm not a massive fan of Adam normally but I'm liking seeing him slowly justifiably lose it when forced to speak to these characters (including the Brexit Party grifter from a page or so back).
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10pm News Embargo

Inspector Sands posted:
Luke posted:

no, the press hate embargoes. they exist to enable the government to control the flow of news to the public

They're not just from the government, all sorts of news items or PR have embargoes.

I wouldn't say the press 'hate them', they are often useful to media outlets too, it gives them a chance to prepare better stories than they would with zero notice


Yep, as someone who works in the press, i know what they're for Smile
we hate them and ignore them unless they're from the government. the most obvious example of an embargo still adhered to is the honours lists, but even they are leaked and briefed like this was.
i still think the 10.30pm timing was ostensibly for the televised paper reviews, because they air at 10.30pm and would have this story as their splashes.
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10pm News Embargo

Brekkie posted:
Yes, not great and usually for the benefit of the press rather than the public. Some new COVID restrictions have been announced around 10.30pm coming in the next morning which people could easily not be aware of the following morning.

no, the press hate embargoes. they exist to enable the government to control the flow of news to the public
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10pm News Embargo

aren't these 10.30pm embargoes put in place because of press previews anyway?
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The ITN Nostalgia Thread

itsrobert posted:
Do you know, reflecting on all of this, the broadcasters do like to have a clear out of their mature female presenters every once in a while don't they? And I apply that to the BBC as much as ITV. Whether it would happen in quite the same way in this day and age, I'm not so sure. But certainly in the 1990s/2000s, periodically they would bring in some younger female faces and dump the old guard in ways I just don't recall them doing with their male counterparts. One hopes things have moved on now.


for sure. Julia and Carol wouldn't be dumped so obviously now as they were then by ITN for Katie and Kirsty/Mary in what look like purely ageist decisions.
It was also an era where newsreaders were making big money moves between channels (particularly Channel 5) in a way that wouldn't be financially viable now.
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The ITN Nostalgia Thread

Brekkie posted:
Shows how professional he was during his 40 odd years as an unbiased newsreader.

the drink driving and breach of employer's social media guidelines aside.
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The ITN Nostalgia Thread

Talkradio, Telegraph and The Spectator. Alastair firmly nailing his colours to the mast there
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Scandals, Blunders & Lawsuits at FOXNEWS, OANN, NewsMax

freddied056 posted:
London Lite posted:
Newsroom posted:

Your argument is nonsense.

Why do you think #45 won’t appear on either channel?

Both channels report NEWS, not pedal crap! FOX news as defined by many many studies is #45’s soapbox. If you view CNN and MSNBC as bias you are seriously misinformed.


MSNBC in particular is biased towards the Democratic Party. If you can't see beyond your own political bias, then what's the point?

Let’s not get into politics here.

Obviously personal bias will change your perspective on things, but the general consensus is that channels such as CNN and MSNBC cater to a more ‘liberal’ (in US terms)/Democrat audience, whilst Fox News caters to a more ‘conservative’/Republican audience. Of course, there are presenters on both (e.g. Chris Wallace) who do seem to be a little more balanced.


broadly true, but Fox does more than 'cater', it was set up as a Republican political outfit by Roger Ailes under the guise of being a 'fair and balanced' news channel. It's taken a step further since his death with the prime time opinion stars given free reign.
MSNBC has become pro-Democratic as a belated business decision but it's gone through various guises, including hiring right wing hosts to compete with Fox (and fail). They did go through a period of making the entire day progressive opinion but that bombed so they turned that into rolling news to compete with CNN more effectively in the daytime.
Ultimately all of those US news channels (and talking heads) have benefited hugely from Trump commercially and audience wise.
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