LL
Aside from that, I’m really struck today that Sky needs to up its game in the daytime hours (after AOP and before Mark Austin). It’s just so weekendy and staid. No offence to today’s presenter but (and this has been said 10,000 times) it just lacks the zing of what made Sky News a brand.
I don’t even necessarily mean the set, but a bloke sitting at a desk reading out summaries on a loop just seems so flat when you see news channels from other countries. Perhaps a predictably bombastic GBN will make them raise their presentation a bit.
That's been my main issue with Sky News over the last few years is that it's become too clinical in their presentation. Don't get me wrong, the journalism is still as good as ever, but it's a functional channel, not helped by splitting the studio and newsroom.
Sky pre 2005 is still my favourite era of the channel.
London Lite
Founding member
The Sky News Thread
Aside from that, I’m really struck today that Sky needs to up its game in the daytime hours (after AOP and before Mark Austin). It’s just so weekendy and staid. No offence to today’s presenter but (and this has been said 10,000 times) it just lacks the zing of what made Sky News a brand.
I don’t even necessarily mean the set, but a bloke sitting at a desk reading out summaries on a loop just seems so flat when you see news channels from other countries. Perhaps a predictably bombastic GBN will make them raise their presentation a bit.
That's been my main issue with Sky News over the last few years is that it's become too clinical in their presentation. Don't get me wrong, the journalism is still as good as ever, but it's a functional channel, not helped by splitting the studio and newsroom.
Sky pre 2005 is still my favourite era of the channel.
LL
working fine here?
Back up for me now too.
London Lite
Founding member
Metropol
The forum is down, clearly there are hordes of visitors who want to read the TV Live Forum watch thread!
working fine here?
Back up for me now too.
LL
What has happened to the 5pm bulletin is nothing short of awful. Where's the USP? The innovation of the early 5 News bulletins from ITN have all but gone for a tick box bulletin to meet their news requirements.
However the factual output in peak seems to be working for them, I've lost count of the amount of railway and royal docs that have been commissioned.
London Lite
Founding member
Five is a brand
With regards to 5 News, there are still elements that are good. Last week there was a decent special on the 6.30 about Long Covid which I didn't see any other outlet spend so much time analysing. Yet, because it's up against the regional news on BBC1 and the ITV Evening News, I doubt many people watched it.What has happened to the 5pm bulletin is nothing short of awful. Where's the USP? The innovation of the early 5 News bulletins from ITN have all but gone for a tick box bulletin to meet their news requirements.
However the factual output in peak seems to be working for them, I've lost count of the amount of railway and royal docs that have been commissioned.
LL
London Lite
Founding member
French TV
Surprised to see Capitaine Marleau has been promoted from France 3 to France 2.
LL
It's a massive shame, but the TV Live Forum is already after a day feeling like home already.
I discovered this forum in 2001 during 9/11 to look for presentation discussion of the attacks where I also discovered DS and signed up that day. But for four months, I was a lurker, reading a mix of informed comment and banter from which I later realised were a group of teenage pres enthusiasts with a few older people.
I remember feeling that I wouldn't sign up as in all honesty I didn't have a clue about presentation. I didn't know my VT from my PSB in those days, but after Christmas that year I signed up and while I still lurked, I'd post a couple of times.
Eventually I started posting more regularly as I understood more and learned so much from insiders on here and was able to debate with fellow enthusiasts.
This forum is more than just that. It fused a group of people with a niche interest together into a community, some of us got jobs in the industry because of those first few posts where we either discussed an ident or even created mocks. The strong moral code we have here has ensured that on the whole, posts are constructive.
Even thought there have been tough times when I've visited here, I've enjoyed being a part of this forum for the last 20 years and I'd like to thank Asa again for providing a forum which has been escapism for me and to each and every forum member who I've had the pleasure of debating or had a laugh with.
London Lite
Founding member
…and finally
While I doubt this will be my last post on TVF between now and tomorrow, I want to express my thoughts on this place closing.It's a massive shame, but the TV Live Forum is already after a day feeling like home already.
I discovered this forum in 2001 during 9/11 to look for presentation discussion of the attacks where I also discovered DS and signed up that day. But for four months, I was a lurker, reading a mix of informed comment and banter from which I later realised were a group of teenage pres enthusiasts with a few older people.
I remember feeling that I wouldn't sign up as in all honesty I didn't have a clue about presentation. I didn't know my VT from my PSB in those days, but after Christmas that year I signed up and while I still lurked, I'd post a couple of times.
Eventually I started posting more regularly as I understood more and learned so much from insiders on here and was able to debate with fellow enthusiasts.
This forum is more than just that. It fused a group of people with a niche interest together into a community, some of us got jobs in the industry because of those first few posts where we either discussed an ident or even created mocks. The strong moral code we have here has ensured that on the whole, posts are constructive.
Even thought there have been tough times when I've visited here, I've enjoyed being a part of this forum for the last 20 years and I'd like to thank Asa again for providing a forum which has been escapism for me and to each and every forum member who I've had the pleasure of debating or had a laugh with.
LL
London Lite
Founding member
Metropol
The forum is down, clearly there are hordes of visitors who want to read the TV Live Forum watch thread!
LL
London Lite
Founding member
Tyne Tees & Border/Look North (NE & Cumbria)
I wonder if Amy had some elocution lessons like Steph McGovern, which allows her to still sound as if she's from the North East, but in a clearer manner?
LL
As this may well be the final post I post in the French TV thread, I'd like to thank those who have posted in this thread who have shared the same niche interest in UK terms discussing French television presentation, especially those who live in France who have a broader understanding of how the French tv industry works.
I sincerely hope that you all come over to TVLF and continue to discuss rebrands of French channels and if ever Sophie Le Saint will ever do a full week at Franceinfo!
London Lite
Founding member
French TV
Like the BBC, I suspect the linear channel will have to close for a period before France Télévisions realise that there is still some PSB worthiness in relaunching France 4.As this may well be the final post I post in the French TV thread, I'd like to thank those who have posted in this thread who have shared the same niche interest in UK terms discussing French television presentation, especially those who live in France who have a broader understanding of how the French tv industry works.
I sincerely hope that you all come over to TVLF and continue to discuss rebrands of French channels and if ever Sophie Le Saint will ever do a full week at Franceinfo!
LL
London Lite
Founding member
Tyne Tees & Border/Look North (NE & Cumbria)
Sadly for some reason, it recorded ITV News Anglia (East) instead, so no vid from me.
LL
I've recorded the Tyne Tees bulletin, but haven't checked it yet.
London Lite
Founding member
Tyne Tees & Border/Look North (NE & Cumbria)
Anyone manage to capture Amy’s first programme please?
I've recorded the Tyne Tees bulletin, but haven't checked it yet.