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Juicy Joe1,503 posts since 25 Dec 2001
Central (West) Midlands Today

The TV Booth Podcast

Listened to the podcast driving home tonight. Was an awesome listen! Greg certainly has some very valid points about the state of TV currently and it is a shame that he feels as though there won't be many opportunities for him on television at the moment. All he needs is to get one show and nail it - I reckon many of us would remember him from Quizmania and I hope he doesn't give up hope for a prime-time show yet.
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Juicy Joe1,503 posts since 25 Dec 2001
Central (West) Midlands Today

BT Sport - Launch of BT Sport Ultimate

Have BT announced any changes in programming to reflect the Premier League games being back in the lunchtime kick-off slot?

They have now.

Well that page is heding it's bets on what the logo is.


Is it just BT Sport that has changed it's logo to this generic font? Or BT as a whole? Cos all the BT webpages I've looked at have the old logo on the banner at the top, even the homepage www.bt.com ? This is another case of inconsistent branding at the launch of a new graphics package.
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Juicy Joe1,503 posts since 25 Dec 2001
Central (West) Midlands Today

Noel on Strike

The first of series 7 has gone online...

Pretty godawful. I mean, at least they were trying new things, but what on earth were they thinking of with that set?!


I know it has been said before but that set looks totally unfinished. Exposed metal bars on the balcony, part of stone balcony which just stops - as though they ran out of balsa wood, metal bars/scaffolding in the background and the lighting rig clearly visible above the set. That set looks neither like a house, nor a studio - with the unmatching stage setup on both sides and the unfinished house in the middle. I am unsure why they broadcast the show from this unfinished state. It was like this for many weeks before they modified it to look more like an actual country house and covered over the metal structures that were clearly visible from the earlier part of the series and took away the "music stage" on the right. I know money was tight but they could have made a better effort than this.

Series 7 set was awful compared with all the other series of the House Party. Despite this, it was a fairly enjoyable Series overall, especially after Xmas (after it was taken off air temporarily and changes were made). The fifth series was the best in my opinion.
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Juicy Joe1,503 posts since 25 Dec 2001
Central (West) Midlands Today

BBC News (UK) presentation - Reith launch onwards

I have noticed some of the video packages/graphics and studio pieces are sometimes partly covered by the lower thirds graphics. There have been 2 instances this morning on Victoria Derbyshire and also during The Papers, the CGI papers as they rotate below the desk, the paper headlines are sometimes cut off partly. Can't this be fixed by moving the camera down slightly or having an area which shouldn't be crossed? With the old graphics, programmes like Click regularly used to place their graphics in the critical area making them clipped off.
Juicy Joe1,503 posts since 25 Dec 2001
Central (West) Midlands Today

BBC News (UK) presentation - Reith launch onwards

...overall I still think the changes have done what they were supposed to do, making the graphics more legible.


In what way were they illegible previously? I've never turned the TV on previously and thought, 'Wow, these graphics are hard to decipher today,' but it is with the new white flipper bar. How does making the flipper font much smaller, using a Serif font, in lower-case lettering and slapping it on a white background which provides more background glare, make it easier to read? It lacks basic common sense. Fair play if you have a massive TV screen 46" or above, but smaller TV screens in bedrooms and garages etc, you've got little chance of seeing it comfortably. Breaking news & headlines along the bottom also lack impact in lower-case letters, at least in capitals, you knew something important was happening and they grabbed your attention.

The answer?
-Change the flipper to a black background
- Use Sans font, no unnecessary curly bits on the end
- Use capital letters for the flipper bar
- Increase the size of the font
-Reduce the height of the flipper
-Bring back the scrolling text

Sky News must be gaining viewers every day whilst this shambles remains on screen.


All of this is completely wrong.


OK, I've got it wrong about the Sans-Serif and Serif flipper font, but it did appear like Serif typeface on my smaller TV. I apologize. Embarassed Crying or Very sad
Juicy Joe1,503 posts since 25 Dec 2001
Central (West) Midlands Today

BBC News (UK) presentation - Reith launch onwards

...overall I still think the changes have done what they were supposed to do, making the graphics more legible.


In what way were they illegible previously? I've never turned the TV on previously and thought, 'Wow, these graphics are hard to decipher today,' but it is with the new white flipper bar. How does making the flipper font much smaller, using a Serif font, in lower-case lettering and slapping it on a white background which provides more background glare, make it easier to read? It lacks basic common sense. Fair play if you have a massive TV screen 46" or above, but smaller TV screens in bedrooms and garages etc, you've got little chance of seeing it comfortably. Breaking news & headlines along the bottom also lack impact in lower-case letters, at least in capitals, you knew something important was happening and they grabbed your attention.

The answer?
-Change the flipper to a black background
- Use Sans font, no unnecessary curly bits on the end
- Use capital letters for the flipper bar
- Increase the size of the font
-Reduce the height of the flipper
-Bring back the scrolling text

Sky News must be gaining viewers every day whilst this shambles remains on screen.
Juicy Joe1,503 posts since 25 Dec 2001
Central (West) Midlands Today

BBC News (UK) presentation - Reith launch onwards

the flipper has so little content on it. Five or six news headlines, contact and interactive information. Really? Surely, surely, the software can cope with more information - why no sport, why no business? It really does bewilder me.


I ask again. How many stories did it used to have when it was a ticker? I’m sure it was only about 4 or 5 news stories.


I think it seemed like more stories before as the stories would have taken longer to scroll across the screen. But now as they are shown in full quicker, it seems as though they are repeating the same things over and over again.
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Juicy Joe1,503 posts since 25 Dec 2001
Central (West) Midlands Today

BBC News (UK) presentation - Reith launch onwards

The lower thirds graphics white bar does not need to stretch down to the bottom of the screen, there could be a small strip of picture at the bottom. As per below the previous ticker. There is a lot of wasted space down there. The white strip and the black strip above could be the same narrow depth as the black and look a lot neater.

Disagree - there is no key action happening at the bottom and it looks so much neater taking the strap all the way to the bottom rather than having a distracting image that you can't actually see below.


I think it would look more minimalist with picture below the ticker. As it did previously.
Juicy Joe1,503 posts since 25 Dec 2001
Central (West) Midlands Today

BBC News (UK) presentation - Reith launch onwards

Not really a big fan of the flipper, much prefer the ticker. Also, I do feel though too much of the lower part of the screen is covered over by unnecessary white/black. The flipper is also harder to read than previous especially on smaller screens. On my smaller TV, I could see it easily before, now it is much more difficult. Also, with a ticker, it gives the impression of "rolling news" - continuous news and you had to anticipate what the whole story would be. The flipper seems more static and repeating the same things like Theresa May meeting the cricketers, that headline was on the flipper all last night, no build up as there is no waiting for the words to scroll across the screen.

Also, I do feel as though the massive Headline straps /wording appear old fashioned out of a broadsheet newspaper style than a futuristic news outlet.

Also with graphics covering up most of the bottom part of the screen, people won't be able to comment on Fiona Bruce's footwear anymore if they tune into the news channel.
Juicy Joe1,503 posts since 25 Dec 2001
Central (West) Midlands Today

Channel 4

Mambo Number 5 being used on the trail for the final!


Maybe I'm not so "out of touch with modern branding trends"?? Haha!! I was right!! I think it's great that the Channel 4 trailer for the cricket has the original Mambo No. 5 cricket theme music playing in the background. It is such an iconic piece. Shows Channel 4 is serious about their coverage. Whether it will be used somewhere on Sunday remains to be seen?
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Juicy Joe1,503 posts since 25 Dec 2001
Central (West) Midlands Today

Channel 4

I hope they use their original Channel 4 Cricket theme Mambo No. 5 (A Little Bit of...) by Lou Bega, for the coverage on Sunday. Will bring back memories of the final few years of cricket on terrestrial TV before it went to Sky and what a terrific job Channel 4 used to do for their cricket programming.


It's a rebroadcast of the coverage on Sky. That's all. There'll, apart from the switch for F1 be no C4 interaction whatsoever.

OK, I didn't realise it was just a simulcast.
Juicy Joe1,503 posts since 25 Dec 2001
Central (West) Midlands Today

Channel 4

I hope they use their original Channel 4 Cricket theme Mambo No. 5 (A Little Bit of...) by Lou Bega, for the coverage on Sunday. Will bring back memories of the final few years of cricket on terrestrial TV before it went to Sky and what a terrific job Channel 4 used to do for their cricket programming.

I don't think Sky will use Mambo No. 5.


No I meant Channel 4. Mind you, maybe it's not on brand, right? I mean, how do I know as I'm out of touch with modern branding trends?
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