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Inspector Sands14,799 posts since 25 Aug 2004

Bauer rebranding 53 stations to The Hits/Greatest Hits

Just for the sake of arguement, I thought the first phase of ILR took it to 19 (not 20) and the second took it up to either 43 or 44.
Be warned that I might be able to list them all and their on air dates..... and I am not the only one on here who can!

You're right, I miscounted on this page not realising that above the list it says 19!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Local_Radio

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Heritage is an odd term - BRMB Piccadilly and Capital all are, but are Free Radio, Key 103, The Hits or the Capital network of today?

Yes and of course there's LBC which isn't a 'heritage station' - despite having the same name as the original 1973 station, it's 2 years younger than Pirate FM. Same with Eagle Radio....


Which makes me realise that it's odd how few stations have lost their license due to non renewal or otherwise - far fewer than ITV stations.

I make it just 6 times: Radio Victory, Devonair, LBC, Radio Mercury (Surrey license that was originally County Sound), Liberty Radio and Town 102
Inspector Sands14,799 posts since 25 Aug 2004

Television About Television

The English Programme did a few behind the scenes episodes.

The Tube:


Spitting Image


And 'Middle English' covered behind the scenes of Thames News:


CBTV seems to have been good for behind the scenes items too, here's Sooty:


And a fantastic item about the recording of Dangermouse, I could watch David Jason and Terry Scott record the voices all day
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Inspector Sands14,799 posts since 25 Aug 2004

Bauer rebranding 53 stations to The Hits/Greatest Hits

There seems to be a lot of love for Plymouth Sound. As a "janner" I did listen to Plymouth Sound in the 80s but I remember it being wildly different in the early 80s compared to late 80s. We even had a phone in show mid morning with Louise Churchill (anyone remember her?) which I think went right into the early 90s.

The music was at best to my teenage ears outdated and it was only when it took on the Heaven on 97 brand, in 1987 did things improve. If you look on youtube for Plymouth Sound the jingle package is there in all its glory.

Just as a little extra, Plymouth Sound presenter Camella McKenzie actually married/civil partnered me at Plymouth Registry Office in 2007, a job she took up after leaving radio!

There was a documentary about local radio made by the BBC last year called The Village Loudspeaker, which featured a lot of Plymouth Sound. It's not on iPlayer any more but the extra clips are and they're great: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p082ytg6/clips

The half hour TV documentary is here:
https://youtu.be/ROUni__bQG8

And the hour long Radio Solent version is here:
https://youtu.be/fOosvW1px1k
Inspector Sands14,799 posts since 25 Aug 2004

Bauer rebranding 53 stations to The Hits/Greatest Hits


I did. Plymouth Sound was one of the original 40, that were licenced by the IBA between 1973 and 1980. It's as simple as that.

It was one of the original 20 franchised by the IBA between 1973 and 1976 - the 'first wave' of ILR


The term 'heritage station' is an unofficial enthusiasts term. It means different things to different people. The 40th according to the list on Wikipedia was Red Rose in 1982, if that's your arbitrary cutoff then so be it. I've heard it used for newer ones - Leicester Sound for example.

But again that's not what's being talked about here.


Pirate FM has been going longer than many of the 'heritage stations' of whatever definition. If it's still going in 5 years it'll be older than Plymouth Sound. That's a lot of heritage
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Inspector Sands14,799 posts since 25 Aug 2004

Bauer rebranding 53 stations to The Hits/Greatest Hits

Pirate didn't launch until 1992, and already had the BBC as competition. The "heritage" angle really only ever applied to the initial 40 ILRs, and Pirate was not part of that.

Yes 'heritage station' does normally mean the early ILR stations - pre Radio Authority, but that wasn't what London Lite said.

It can't be denied that Pirate does have a lot of heritage, its been on air almost 30 years after all.
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Inspector Sands14,799 posts since 25 Aug 2004

Bauer rebranding 53 stations to The Hits/Greatest Hits


Cornwall is not badly served at all, in fact, it's served very well by radio.

Nowadays, you have over 50 stations available, more if you can pick up the Plymouth multiplex as well like I can.

Compared with most other parts of the country, its badly served - as I say there are only 4 local stations, two of them DAB only.

As you say it got local radio late (if you don't count the Radio 4 opt outs) but also of course geography is not in its favour, unless you're in the Eastern side you don't get stations from adjoining areas because there aren't any. And of course the days you could get lots of choice from Devon are over.

Compare that with where I live which is also poorly served for radio, but has lots of overspill including from a big city


Stop bragging about have 'over 50 stations', the 3 national DAB muxs have 50 between them so it's not unusual

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The loss of Pirate 80s is sad, but ultimately, not a big deal, because it only garnered a reach of about 14,000 listeners, which in a market of around half a million is nothing.

And of course how many 80s stations do you need? Presumably they'll reuse the slot for GHR or Hits?
Inspector Sands14,799 posts since 25 Aug 2004

Bauer rebranding 53 stations to The Hits/Greatest Hits


There are other areas where commercial monopolies on FM still play a major influence. Yorkshire Coast Radio has the biggest reach in England, although the licence that covers the Bridlington area is also covered by Viking FM, but the main Scarborough TSA has no competition on FM.

Isn't CFM very similar in that it's the only station in Cumbria? Though its part of the Hits network and not been stand alone for years
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Inspector Sands14,799 posts since 25 Aug 2004

Bauer rebranding 53 stations to The Hits/Greatest Hits


Not true actually. Cornwall for example has a multitude of DAB stations, over 50 in all, and most of these are stations designed for individual moods, or playing a tightly formatted playlist. In fact, because of the plethora of stations for individual moods and tastes, the stations going broader actually stand out more, and in some cases are doing better because of it.

'Plethora of stations for individual moods and tastes' is fancy word salad meaning you get the same 50 stations* everyone gets plus 4 (soon to be 3) that are unique to Cornwall.


Cornwall is badly served for radio, it's the nationals (I include Heart in that) then just Pirate, BBC Cornwall and a handful of community stations of varying quality. That's why as commseng says, Pirate is very broad and popular

* and that 'over 50' figure is correct depending on what postcode you use, obviously it varies especially around the coast
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Inspector Sands14,799 posts since 25 Aug 2004

Bauer rebranding 53 stations to The Hits/Greatest Hits

I don’t think stations need to ask for format changes anymore, largely speaking.

That said if they want to implement that rebrand not all stations would need to have the exact same format. Galaxy in Birmingham always had more an Urban/R'n'B element and less dance than the other stations. Although they probably wouldn’t want to dilute the Kiss brand.

Galaxy Birmingham was less dancy than the other Galaxy stations because it was originally Buzz and the Choice FM
Inspector Sands14,799 posts since 25 Aug 2004

Television About Television

Can't believe that TV Hell will be 30 years old next year. You're right it's amazing evening of TV, I think I still have a VHS of the whole thing.

I suppose the modern day equivalent is the endless clipshows that channel 5 show and rehash of bad/nightmare TV. There's lots of TV about TV but it's all clippage, often the same clips over and over
Inspector Sands14,799 posts since 25 Aug 2004

Former CSC channels rebranded following Trace takeover

Interesting that on those audience figures that relatively new stations Now 70s and 80s are doing so well. I know they are/have been on Freeview but goes to show what an established brand can do. Everyone knows MTV, but it's not got the nostalgic affection that Now has.

Same with Chart Show to a much lesser extent.

Who owns the Now channels, it's a brand that's expanded and exploited a lot recently
Inspector Sands14,799 posts since 25 Aug 2004

Bauer rebranding 53 stations to The Hits/Greatest Hits

I quite like it too. Stands out well and animates well in their website.

I've been a bit of a fan of GHR too, as a format it's something that none of the other networks do - big hits from the past. I'm too old for Hits or Capital, find Heart too bland and female orientated, Smooth and Magic too slow, not a fan of the 60s so Gold's not for me.

The biggest problem it has is its breakfast show, he's a decent enough DJ and apparently popular in Liverpool but it just seems a bit poor. It's not good enough to replace all the local stations shows in a few months. With all the big names the station has I can see it changing before the roll out - possibly Andy Crane at breakfast?


I'm glad they've kept Pirate, I think that would have caused the most fuss if that had gone. It's a very popular station in a market with only Heart as competition. Last time I heard it (a few years ago, long before the takeover) its music policy didn't seem that far from what GHR does - lots of classic oldies especially in the afternoons. I wonder if it'll essentially be a GHR format just with local presentation
Inspector Sands14,799 posts since 25 Aug 2004

ITN Nostalgia

ITN introduced an Afternoon News Summary at around 3:25pm in around about 1985, as shown on this YouTube video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVq6qPu_oH8

The morning summaries were always at 9.55, 10.55 and 11.55 in the early going, and they were introduced after ITV Schools got transferred over to Channel 4 in September 1987. The 9.55 and 11.55 summaries were paired with regional news updates, and were shorter, whilst the 10.55 was just ITN, and ran for at least 4 minutes. I lived this era, and remember the details vividly.

Blimey, that title sequence! I have no memory of that 3:25 bulletin at all, I wonder how long it lasted for. I remember there being a regional bulletin around then, at least in London there was.


The regular bulletins throughout the morning on both ITV and BBC1 seems overkill today but different times then of course. Must have been a pain to schedule round both for the schedulers and those working on the programmes they appeared in. The only remnant is the regional weather on ITV that still interrupts This Morning at just past 11am
Inspector Sands14,799 posts since 25 Aug 2004

Coronavirus | General TV News Coverage

Adam Boulton recounted from the “rule book”: “Senior Advisors are not permitted to speak directly to the media or to give public speeches of any type” (Guidelines for Government Advisors).

The caveat: he’s delivering this as a personal statement as a member of the public and not in his employed capacity. Meaning that the statement should also not be made from Downing Street or any other Government Real Estate

Of course if he's not a senior advisor when he makes the speech then the above rules don't apply
Inspector Sands14,799 posts since 25 Aug 2004

Good Morning Britain in 2020

I'm not normally a GMB viewer as I'm either in bed or having to watch kids tv. But was able to catch the first half hour and was a bit disappointed that there was no Piers Morgan.

I thought in the circumstances they might have brought him in. I noticed that James o'Brien on LBC who was also off this week announced that he will be presenting his show today, and thanked his fill-in for being kind and giving him the slot back for a day
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