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The Duke of Edinburgh

I'm posting a presentation error, champ. I'm not actually interested in the health of some old geezer.
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The Duke of Edinburgh

It seems BBC Scotland accidentally cut to an obit package (being edited?) of his Royal Highness, during a Parliamentary hearing.



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paul_hadley and LondonViewer gave kudos
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…and finally

I first logged on here - on day 1 - via Nescape when I briefly worked for Scottish Equitable and discovered the hidden icons on my OS/2 desktop to launch a browser.

NONE OF THOSE THINGS EXIST ANYMORE.

Kudos, Asa. It was quite the adventure.
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BBC THREE versus BBC SCOTLAND

After I posted I discovered and read many of yours which very eloquently laid out some similar conclusions.

Very good to meet you.
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BBC THREE versus BBC SCOTLAND

I appreciate the clarification. I hear what you're saying, but Scotland and Wales are not regions, we are nations. And its not a matter of heady pride to point it out, its just a fact that creates a complication for a broadcaster who can often announce headlines such as, "Exam chaos for students across the country as students await their A Level results".

Scotland doesn't get its exam results when England do. We don't even have A Levels. And our University admissions system is different. But annually we will have the first 8 minutes of our main evening news (the most watched broadcast) running reports and interviewing kids and parents. It might seem trivial reading this one benign example, but if you lived here every day and could generally find an example in every broadcast that was irrelevant (as much as news can be), after 30 years you might, like me, ask why we can't just have our own Six O'Clock News.

Technically it can be done. The cost is negligible. It would just give the Scots audience a main evening bulletin that was more appropriate. Reporting Scotland should be the programme to deal with the less profound items and perhaps the more parochial. After all, the regions of England get a magazine show with garden fetes and local panto celebs. I think a nation might be afforded some lighter relief at 6.30 after a proper news programme.
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BBC THREE versus BBC SCOTLAND

Kunst posted:
I’ve never understood why people want a ‘Scottish six’, we have reporting Scotland which is the same length as the six.
Maybe I’m missing something completely obvious but the news at 6 covers National and international news and if the programme was just geared towards Scotland, surely it wouldn’t be in a great position to cover international news effectively.

Nationalism and a form of "tribalism"

I have no desire to engage in these discussions any more, its one of the reasons I quit the forum in 2014.

The Six O'Clock news has a global brief and a national one. A Scottish Six would naturally take the same approach. Its not some silly notion to add a "hoots mon" to a story about polar ice caps. I'm sure you weren't suggesting that. But the resources are already there to bring in the international stories. They're shared on the servers and the reporters can contribute directly. Its really just about having smarter editorial decision making to best serve your audience.

Minimally 50% of the main evening news is a domestic agenda, and while there is plenty of crossover with pan-UK relevant items, there is a slew of political stories, health, education and legal items that do not relate to a Scots audience, being as we have our own governments, systems and results. Reporting Scotland should be a magazine programme. I expect to see the main items of the day for Scotland in the main news of the day.

'Nationalism and tribalism' is trolling, sir, and its not appreciated.
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BBC THREE versus BBC SCOTLAND

Good to hear your thoughts but what have people missed out on due to money going towards BBC Scotland instead?


Continuing drama River City has had increasing pressure to turn around more scenes in a production week. For a very long time they worked weekends, so shooting blocs of 16 weeks took a massive toll on cast and crew alike. In fact it took pressure from Equity to push back and give the cast their weekends to recover.

COVID has changed things of course, but it might disappoint you to learn that of the slate of BBC Studios continuing dramas (including Doctors), River City were initially the only show not offered furlough, or at least a financial emolument to retain the cast whose contracts were terminated overnight. More representations to Equity from their union rep (a member of the regular cast) was successful in getting a token payment to some very worried actors.

When you cut money from a drama series you're talking about no supporting artistes in the background of shots or in the cafe. No taxi driving up the street at the back of frame. It genuinely is all up there on the screen - or not.

The BBC Scotland channel cash could be better spent.
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BBC THREE versus BBC SCOTLAND

Hello there. Long time no see.

The BBC Scotland channel was set up to fail, and its achieving it's ambition. For many years there were demands in Scotland from both the public and cross-party politicians that BBC Scotland should produce a "Scottish Six", distinct from the Network programme, to better reflect the editorial differences in this country.

Sometimes that would be as subtle as a change in the running order, sometimes it would mean not broadcasting items about education, heath or other devolved matters, where we currently have them presented as if they apply to us, usually with no caveat.

I don't know whether I'm allowed to reveal this, but there was a six week pilot of a BBC Scotland Six O'Clock News, which was produced live but not broadcast. It allowed them to try to juggle with correspondents doing two-ways into their packages within minutes of having presented them to network. It was a triumph of modern news production: that all the outside sources, VTs and scripts are there to be edited and restacked to better fit the audience.

BUT - London didn't want to rubber stamp the project, presumably under pressure from the Westminster government that it might be seen as the thin end of the wedge and encourage the breakup of the UK. So it was quietly dumped and never spoken of.

Even so, the demand was still there from outwith the BBC, and so, to quell the storm, one day we are told we are getting a shortbread tin channel of "Scottish interest" which, at best, will be used to premiere continuing drama and comedy ahead of a BBC 1 Scotland airing. And it will be on channel twelvty-nine-hundred on the digibox where you will never see it on an EPG.

Literally nobody asked for this, and nobody wanted it. I did send an audition reel to get the continuity announcer job, but you can't blame me for having childhood ambitions.

Its creation ripped budgets away from other production at Pacific Quay, but it wasn't enough money to make anything decent with, so everyone suffered. It was created to fail so that the chiefs in London can say, "why are you demanding a news programme, we gave you a whole channel and you didn't watch it". Its as calculated as that.

Get rid of it and reinstate BBC 2 Scotland. And BBC Three if you like - whatever - I cut my cable years ago.

One final point - and thanks for reading if indeed you have - there's some suggestion that money spent by the BBC in Scotland would be poorly spent if we managed to gain independence. Scottish BBC licence payers contributed £324 million last year but only £223 million of that was spent here - so you could certainly make the argument that Pacific Quay is bought and paid for by the Scottish fee payer. But lets not bother.

See you in another 3 years. x
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BBC News in the style of The Nine

The Nine is heavily inspired by TV Avisen's package. This is the 2018 refresh. Lots of similarities.



First post here in almost 5 years. *waves*
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BBC Scotland News Thread

As far as I have been led to understand the studio is always used for the late bulletin whether you see a wide shot or not - save for some occasional exceptions (pre-recording for Scotland 2015 perhaps). The late news and weather is one end of the set and Scotland 2015 is the other (not "separate studios" as noted by the Bazinga person here).
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Click

Incidentally, the youtube version on the previous page sounds appalling. Listen to it through a decent sound system from the iPlayer.
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Click

LOVE the new music.