GaryC's posts, page 9

ITV wants to axe some regional news services

More factors than just programme performance are at work.

Audience available to watch builds quite dramatically after work.

You can see here the average audience the audience at 18:45 for example will be significantly higher that 18:00.
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/research/cm/cmrnr08/tv67.jpg

In the west and london fewer people are available to watch at 6PM; and those that are are younger or non-working. It appears a higher than average proportion of regional news 'typical' viewers are not watching ANY TV until much later than usual - Long commutes home?

The effect is not so noticable in Scotland, as they dont really work far from home (if at all..) statistically correct, before anyone jumps up and down

One interesting side note Nick may like to speculate on: Why has BBC Spotlight viewing crashed?

This is the chart for Change in BBC early evening regional news share, 2003-2007
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/research/cm/cmrnr08/tv90.jpg

I notice that BBC West has not done well either.


all data from here: http://www.ofcom.org.uk/research/cm/cmrnr08/tv/

ITV Network Transmission Issues

ITV West News was on DTT as normal.

All network shows still in in wrong aspect ratio

ITV wants to axe some regional news services

It is harder to judge editorial value in a region that your dont live in.

I do agree with the argument that some of the regional programmes are expensive junk, but the conclusion that this means shows should be junked in favour of 5 minute opts is daft - particually as VIEWERS want more local news not less.

ITV regions still cost too much. Poor resource planning and dated working practice bump up the cost - Its stupid that VJ's are not used more: Why send a cameraman out when the reporter has to edit anyway? Better to shoot and know the pictures then edit the package.

Many ITV news teams are poor at forward planning, this has a knock on effect with choosing craft edit packages, story value and viewer interest.

ITV should take the best practise from the rest of the world and reduce cost/increase ratings rather than create 'super regions'

Dont get me started on BBC regions!

ITV wants to axe some regional news services

It is harder to judge editorial value in a region that your dont live in.

I do agree with the argument that some of the regional programmes are expensive junk, but the conclusion that this means shows should be junked in favour of 5 minute opts is daft - particually as VIEWERS want more local news not less.

ITV regions still cost too much. Poor resource planning and dated working practice bump up the cost - Its stupid that VJ's are not used more: Why send a cameraman out when the reporter has to edit anyway? Better to shoot and know the pictures then edit the package.

Many ITV news teams are poor at forward planning, this has a knock on effect with choosing craft edit packages, story value and viewer interest.

ITV should take the best practise from the rest of the world and reduce cost/increase ratings rather than create 'super regions'

Dont get me started on BBC regions!

ITV wants to axe some regional news services

Never, EVER confuse a lack of news on TV to a lack of News in real life.

Bristol based media are a big problem in the fact they are very passive. If its not on a press release and an officially sanctioned topic they will not cover it; Only the perspective from the PR is followed, with a few odd counter points at the end: Never is the question asked why do this now, why do this from this point of view.

News happens in the west. It is just news organizations that fail to cover it.

I have many journalist friends who notice a huge difference on how news is gathered and reported in other parts of the country, and how local bodies (councils, nhs, police, politicians etc) are so used to an east ride they just do not know how to deal with normal journalistic values.

Bristol & the West has a police force with a very low conviction rate for serious crime, low per head NHS spending, very low education standards in Bristol City, the worst trains in the UK, the most expensive public transport in the UkKand the lowest investment in public infrastucture the the UK - all the money goes north. It gets no benifit from returning so many labour MP's

Is it coincidence that the west has such poor value public services AND the most complient unquestioning media?

Local news is valued by people and has the most importent role to play in a democratic country.

The other point about 15-34 being advertises only interest is also complete bull. Yes, young demo's are worth a higher per impact rate and a channel targetting 15-35 is wasting resources appealing older - as the total commercial yeild per spot is dragged down by going off target. So it is a waste for E4 to run, say Countdown.

For mainstream channels and those digital channels for broad/niche audiences all audinces upto 54 have significant value: Why do you think a service like channel 4 'poached' Paul o'Grady? It was for total volume of impacts to sell alongside deal or no deal and countdown. Those impacts (or in simplistic terms viewers) are old and downmarket.

To claim advertisers are only interested in 15-34 is bogus.

ITV wants to axe some regional news services

Never, EVER confuse a lack of news on TV to a lack of News in real life.

Bristol based media are a big problem in the fact they are very passive. If its not on a press release and an officially sanctioned topic they will not cover it; Only the perspective from the PR is followed, with a few odd counter points at the end: Never is the question asked why do this now, why do this from this point of view.

News happens in the west. It is just news organizations that fail to cover it.

I have many journalist friends who notice a huge difference on how news is gathered and reported in other parts of the country, and how local bodies (councils, nhs, police, politicians etc) are so used to an east ride they just do not know how to deal with normal journalistic values.

Bristol & the West has a police force with a very low conviction rate for serious crime, low per head NHS spending, very low education standards in Bristol City, the worst trains in the UK, the most expensive public transport in the UkKand the lowest investment in public infrastucture the the UK - all the money goes north. It gets no benifit from returning so many labour MP's

Is it coincidence that the west has such poor value public services AND the most complient unquestioning media?

Local news is valued by people and has the most importent role to play in a democratic country.

The other point about 15-34 being advertises only interest is also complete bull. Yes, young demo's are worth a higher per impact rate and a channel targetting 15-35 is wasting resources appealing older - as the total commercial yeild per spot is dragged down by going off target. So it is a waste for E4 to run, say Countdown.

For mainstream channels and those digital channels for broad/niche audiences all audinces upto 54 have significant value: Why do you think a service like channel 4 'poached' Paul o'Grady? It was for total volume of impacts to sell alongside deal or no deal and countdown. Those impacts (or in simplistic terms viewers) are old and downmarket.

To claim advertisers are only interested in 15-34 is bogus.

ITV wants to axe some regional news services

Lets not let facts get in the way shall we?

- ITV shareholders get a very GOOD deal from the free (public)spectrum, priority EPG and huge reach that the PSB obligations give them. They are still millions of pound better off.

- Local news is the most valued service for all adults 35+
- The majority (68%) of people want MORE local news, but only of better quality and relevence to them
- ITV local is a disaster, and relies exclusivly on amterial paid from the resources of the main TV show. No 6PM show, No content.
- 'Default Location' to get news is just BBC bullS*t to justify universal payment tax. TV is still a high index platform to access news content, so what if you dont get every drop of news first and exclusively from TV?

Your attitude may be coloured if you are in the West - which has low regional news viewing:

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/research/cm/cmrnr08/tv45.jpg

If local news is so irrelevent why do poeople rate is as important to the degree they do:
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/research/cm/cmrnr08/tv100.jpg

Stop flogging the ITV line about local news being expensive and unwanted in a digital age.

The simple fact is local news is MORE valued in areas with the highest penitration of digital TV on the main set. Which rather screws that arguemnt.

ITV wants to axe some regional news services

Lets not let facts get in the way shall we?

- ITV shareholders get a very GOOD deal from the free (public)spectrum, priority EPG and huge reach that the PSB obligations give them. They are still millions of pound better off.

- Local news is the most valued service for all adults 35+
- The majority (68%) of people want MORE local news, but only of better quality and relevence to them
- ITV local is a disaster, and relies exclusivly on amterial paid from the resources of the main TV show. No 6PM show, No content.
- 'Default Location' to get news is just BBC bullS*t to justify universal payment tax. TV is still a high index platform to access news content, so what if you dont get every drop of news first and exclusively from TV?

Your attitude may be coloured if you are in the West - which has low regional news viewing:

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/research/cm/cmrnr08/tv45.jpg

If local news is so irrelevent why do poeople rate is as important to the degree they do:
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/research/cm/cmrnr08/tv100.jpg

Stop flogging the ITV line about local news being expensive and unwanted in a digital age.

The simple fact is local news is MORE valued in areas with the highest penitration of digital TV on the main set. Which rather screws that arguemnt.

Polsat News - the new polish news channel

A common opinion. but wrong.

The licence is held in the EU state where editorial control is held OR country of FIRST uplink, unless poland has no mechanism for licencing Sat services. In which case it's normally the country of ownership of the sat bird (France in many cases for Hotbird etc)

Polsat News - the new polish news channel

Many 'sky' channels do not have UK Ofcom licences.

there is no requirement for it or any European Union channel to have an ofcom licence in addition to that in another member state.

Indeed with all the new ofcom nanny regulations, CBS Paramount (MTV etc) NBC Universal (sci-fi, hallmark) and a host of smaller channels are in active talks to relocate to other countries: Ireland or Spain for most.

Ch9 news NZ

As fist glance i though it might be a reuse old the BDA (who did itv regions 2004) kit of parts - they have on office down under; but the logo is dire - so maybe not.

That is quite entertaining.

AS much for the fact that I now know it's pronounced 'dun ee d in' instead if 'done (h)'ead in'

Shipwrecked

Unlike Big Brother Etc, the show is pre taped and edited.

Its been cut and delayed becouse of massive issues with the production and narrative (you dont think the events are real and not contrived by producers do you?)

I'm told that took alot of work to bring it to air, including a major redit. Channel 4 will be aware of this and schedule accordingly.

The suggestion is the laurens and jamies of RDF cocked up the casting.