FrancisIdents' posts, page 20

BBC1 and 2 to be rebranded?

Unfortunately it still takes you there if you go via one of his videos. More's the pity

BBC1 and 2 to be rebranded?

They're mocks. This guy plasters delusional rubbish all over Digital Spy and YouTube, I've gotten several messages from him already.


The BBC's presentation is dire, but surely it can't get as bad as bile-inducing pop songs and cheesy lens flares.

Christmas Greetings

Wishing all on TV Forum a very merry Christmas and a happy new year from me

Logo Presentation

That sounds like a really good idea, it could work in idents/slides in a very similar way. Have you got a link handy?


Back onto the intended topic, yes TOTP made a nasty habit of tinkering with the BBC logo. That '98 rendition is simply hideous

ITV News 2013 Rebrand

Yes I am definitely interested - doesn't seem like yesterday sometimes!



Apologies in advance if I'm littering the thread

Logo Presentation

The Central "cake" is another one that remains timeless.

The current BBC logo is obviously not going to be here forever. It's survived this long and still looks good, but I can't see it passing the 25 year mark. The forum will be up in arms about it looking stale before the decade's out.

I don't actually know if this is allowed here, as it's not my own, but this was posted by JK08 some time ago. Obviously it's superseding something made by Lambie-Nairn so it faded away very quickly. I like it myself, very versatile, something which made the '97 logo great.


What a horrible thought

BBC Christmas presentation

Weird seeing that one as it's not of the general "christmas" style - the O looks more like a ferris wheel!

That being said does anyone have any recordings of it's showing? Would certainly be interesting to see.

Channel 4 Breakfast

I've just nearly killed myself laughing. Thanks for setting the record straight JK08.

The newest variation of your mock is again a lot better, but now we've got a lack of decent fonts - Tahoma and Arial *shudder*

The name Breakfast is doable, I guess. Though you have to do something about that title card. If you can't make an original logo that doesn't look like it's from 1986, then try and lay out something decent. Take a look at the normal ITV News, or BBC Breakfast for inspiration.

Experiment with different fonts, branch out from the "built-into-Windows" fonts.

Sort out the name aston! I'm reading it as "Project Advisor Sanjay Rahman" again. Use font weights where you need them, like this:



Better than the last two tries. Still only worthy of 1 star.
However I do think you're improving. Come back after a few days and have another go.

BBC Christmas presentation

Link for those interested in the sting:

Channel 4 Breakfast

Better. Still not great though.

Congrats on making a recognisable logo, but as AxG said it's reminiscent of morning shows from the 80s, rather than the mid-10s.

Layout of the graphics and astons is still chaotic. The name aston needs to be a lot bigger - someone watching on a small screen won't be able to make it out whatsoever.

Channel 4 have holding slides already. The one you've made is a significant step backwards in aesthetics.

Don't use so many fonts! A consistent look is what's required for something like this, and that consists of one font.
Use font weights (e.g. light, semibold) as needed.

One thing you have to remember, as others have said, is: "is this something I could see on TV?". Right now, the answer's a big fat no.

BBC Christmas presentation

Yes, it's been said on page 28

Channel 4 Breakfast

I'm sorry but this isn't very good. There's barely any thinking in the graphics, there's no substance to it. It screeches "cheap".

I'm presuming on image 2, those are name tags. Unfortunately being on one small tab, and everything being in the same font weight, it reads as "Lucy Brand Michael Smurt Crime Analyst Retired Detective". It's confusing to say the least.

The logo isn't recognisable. Remove the text from the Gold logo, and chances are you'd still think "oh, that's Gold". Removing all text from this, on the other hand, would just reveal an orange circle. Hardly distinctive.

Unless you're making a pre-1999 TV mock, use 16:9 images for your mocks instead of 4:3. And, as Declan said, use safe areas -
this graphic will help you out a lot.

You're a new member, so I'm not going to bite your head off like some might (I've been there before believe me ), but I will ask you to consider these points before you try again.

Keep going with this! It is certainly an interesting concept, it just needs work.

And check your grammar before you submit pictures: