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Rolling news RIP

Jaimé Alexandéz posted:
Dog posted:
Brekkie Boy posted:
Dog posted:
I'd like to see News 24 look a bit more like Sky Sports News, ie a quarter screen, with a beefed up ticker along the bottom, and constantly updating text along the right hand side.


That's completly pointless though and goes against the point - you can still only get the information your given.

I know with services like Score Interactive I generally find it much quicker (and more interactive) to use the BBCi Text service to find the scores I'm after rather than rating for the graphics to rotate to the score I want.


Who the hell are you to say that my point is 'pointless'? It's as valid as any other.



Calm down, dear. He meant the idea, not the point.


Why have you waded in? Can't you leave one thread alone?
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Rolling news RIP

Brekkie Boy posted:
Dog posted:
I'd like to see News 24 look a bit more like Sky Sports News, ie a quarter screen, with a beefed up ticker along the bottom, and constantly updating text along the right hand side.


That's completly pointless though and goes against the point - you can still only get the information your given.

I know with services like Score Interactive I generally find it much quicker (and more interactive) to use the BBCi Text service to find the scores I'm after rather than rating for the graphics to rotate to the score I want.


Who the hell are you to say that my point is 'pointless'? It's as valid as any other.

The point i'm making, is that if tv news channels are to survive in the climate laid down by that article, then they need to make more information available on screen, for more of the time.

Remember that news channels are mostly only WATCHED, not listened to, ie on tv screens in offices. This is why they go mad for MASSIVE breaking news graphics.

Why then have a desk and 2 presenters in shot for so much time, when they could be showing info. I'm not saying News 24 sould look like Bloomberg, but perhaps it could go someway towards that style.
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Rolling news RIP

Moz posted:
Dog posted:
I'd like to see News 24 look a bit more like Sky Sports News, ie a quarter screen, with a beefed up ticker along the bottom, and constantly updating text along the right hand side.

I wouldn't go that far, but what about this as a compramise...

Behind the presenters on News 24 have some screens with brief text round-ups of stories on them. These would provide additional information without forcing a quarter screen all the time. It would only be in shot when the presenters are - and could also be used to flag breaking news better.


As you say, it'd only be in vision when the the presenters were cut up, which isn't enough of the time.

I'd like to see a quarter screen format atleast during the Breakfast hours on N24.
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Rolling news RIP

I'd like to see News 24 look a bit more like Sky Sports News, ie a quarter screen, with a beefed up ticker along the bottom, and constantly updating text along the right hand side.
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BBC Breakfast

Matrix posted:
TELEVISION posted:
Don't think so. Does she not usually take a long break at this time of year?


I think she visit's her mother in Canada at this time of year...


How on earth can you sit there and say things like that?

It's like me saying that Matrix usually goes for a dump at about 730 every morning.

You make it sound as if you're mates with Moira, when infact you're just a wannabe who knows absolutly feck all.
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Lib Dem Leadership Contest

cylon6 posted:
Just imagine if ITV still had a 24 hour news channel, then it would have been an even bigger exclusive.


Read the posts above, dork.
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BBC News 24

Moz posted:
Is Kevin Bakhurst - as controller of News 24 - in charge of Breakfast?


No.
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Sky News

cat posted:
rdd posted:
Dog posted:


You're an idiot.


Er, thanks....

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It's a business decision. Before you start denouncing things as 'stupid decisions', try thinking about why they're doing it.

Sky are spending a fortune on making a tailored news for Ireland, and they want the most people possible to see it.


Okay, let give you a British analogy.

Say there was no Sky News channel. Say there was only a Sky News bulitten on Sky One, at 7:00pm.

Now lets say the BBC had an hour long National news at 6pm, and the ITV Evening News went out at 6:30pm (which it does).

Channel 4 News does not exist (in our scenario).

You have a 7pm news bulitten. You currently have no domestic competition in that time slot, but the ratings are still not outstanding. You want to improve the ratings. Most of the content is imported from Fox News in the United States.

There is a popular entertainment programme scheduled in the 6:30pm slot presently.

Do you:

(a) Keep the bulitten where it is and try to improve the British content, hiring more British reporters and reducing your dependance on Fox?

(b) Move it up against your main terrestrial rivals, knowing that the BBC viewing public will watch the BBC anyway, because it IS the BBC and the National Broadcaster, and that the ITV viewing public will watch the ITV News because they want to watch Emmerdale, which is coming up at 7pm, also that those tuning in at 6:30pm to watch the popular entertainment programme previously scheduled will not watch news, and will change to another channel not showing news. You might not get them back at 7pm

What do you do, what do you do?


That is just a wholly stupid analogy, and nothing remotely similar to the situation that Sky find themselves in. Quite what possessed you to come up with that is beyond me.

For starters, Sky News Ireland is a wholly owned subsidiary of Sky News, so it is always going to be dependent upon Sky News for its resources. It's not a question of building up the service.

Secondly, the bulletin is not already on Sky One... it is only on Sky News. There is no news on Sky One Ireland at present. The purpose of Putting it on SOI is to build up the ratings by saturating the market. It is a tried and tested tactic by Sky over the years - World News Tonight used to air on Sky One in the 80s and 90s, back when there were only about 5 channels on Sky anyway. They are spending a fortune on SNI... they want people to watch it... they can't persuade them to tune in, so they force them to. It really is that simple.

Greg: Again, I would say that Sky have done their audience research. If there was an overwhelming demand for a Sky Report-style show in the 10pm hour, but not in the 7pm one, they'd schedule at 10pm. Your closing caveat that 'I may be the only one who thinks this' does rather suggest you hadn't thought through the rest of your reply.


Oi, i was gonna write much the same as this..... lol
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BBC News 24

AdamP posted:
p_c_u_k posted:
And two cameramen to cover snow in Maidstone. Jeez.


Are you sure about that? the OB vans have an extra camera that they stick on the roof, to give an extra shot. It doesn't need a second cameraman.


BBC TV trucks that also have masts (for terrestrial links) have cameras built in at the top of the mast. No need for extra rigging.
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Sky News

rdd posted:
Sky Ireland must have a ratings death wish for the 18:30 time slot. Having already taken the rather stupid decision to run Sky News Ireland up against both RTÉ News: Six One and TV3 News at 6:30, they're going to put it on Sky One Ireland as well?!?! All this will do is cut Sky One Ireland's ratings for that time slot, because the audience for Malcom in the Middle do not in general watch much in the way of Sky News!

Any person with access to Sky One Ireland most likely has Sky News Ireland also (in fact, because Sky News Ireland is FTA on satellite, it potentially has a larger audience than Sky One Ireland does).

There is a solution Sky, believe it or not...put Sky News Ireland back to 7pm.


You're an idiot.

It's a business decision. Before you start denouncing things as 'stupid decisions', try thinking about why they're doing it.

Sky are spending a fortune on making a tailored news for Ireland, and they want the most people possible to see it.
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BBC News 24

r2ro posted:
As I have posted in the BBC World Thread, I think Quil does all right and seems to know the region quite well despite being a newcomer. I also like his 'fresh' style to reporting from the region. I hope he stays for a considerable amount of time.


He's not a newcomer to the region. Look him up.
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BBC News 24

David Aquila Lawrence is a Baghdad regular. He does stints there, and has been on many times before. He's a freelancer, and just works for the Beeb when reqired.