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ITV News Relaunch

Brekkie Boy posted:
What on earth are you talking about. All CSO does is put the graphics on the screen for the viewer, rather than the newsreader. It's no more dishonest than the BBC projection screens. The information isn't there, but by the power of televisioin it's projected there.


Eh? The screens News 24 use are real, ie: a projector projects images onto them; visable on the screens themselves. Unlike CSO, which layers the graphics onto the output of the studio.
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ITV News Relaunch

CPFC posted:
it's hardly suitable for their "flagship hour."


I agree.

David Mannion last week said that he was very proud of the new set, and that it would "revolutionise" television news. I say that it's cheap, tacky, and looks it.

We've had the battle of the biggest screen, with Sky's newswall, News 24's holoscreens, Newsnight's huge projector, etc etc. The only thing to top it is a set that is basically one big screen.....cue ITV's new set. And oh how it doesn't work.

So what if it can put 4 different feeds up on it at once. So what if it can change colour.

Sorry, but it just doesn't cop.

Stylish sets and graphics don't need to be expensive. Nor are titles. That 'Breaking News for Britain' caption taking them in and out of breaks look crap.
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BBC News' most local OB?

DVB Cornwall posted:
If they SNG'd the report from Witchell they need their heads examining.

Sad

Bouncing the signal off a satellite 36,000km above the equator to go 50 metres is way ott.

Confused


Again, why would they need their heads examining? It's easier to just get the truck to do it, if one is free, than it is to route the tie lines and 4 wire talkback.

Just because an OB location is very close to the studio, it doesn't mean they can just plug into that studio.
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BBC News' most local OB?

Larry Scutta posted:
simpfeld posted:
When I saw that report from just outside TV Centre, I wondered how they got the signal back.

Did they send an SNG truck 20 yards out the gate? Or just use a cable?

Anyone know?


I think there's a plug-in point on the wall around there. even if there wasn't It would be quite easy to do as it's not a public location so wires could be slung out of the window.

They aren't that common at the moment, but they could have used a radio camera


A truck is usually used.

There are tie lines ia and around the horseshoe, and are used for weather on Breakfast, but trucks are normally used in the evenings.

I don't understand how anyone could even think that they 'throw cables out of thr window'. Where would they be be plugged into? The back of the vision mixer? Don't be silly.
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BBC Annual Network closedown on Thursday 8th January

James Vertigan posted:
Hi Simon,

Here's what I think happens (but don't quote me on this)

Every analogue transmitter and relay across the country is switched off (BBC1 & 2's frequencies only) but they pick up a rebroadcast feed from the Crystal Palace mast in London (which remains on throughout the tests), I think these are broadcast at normal power from Crystal Palace so each transmitter must have a microwave link or rebroadcast link to CP, hence why you would still have a picture... but as your transmitter is technically "switched off" your pictures are being fed to your TV via the rebroadcast chain/link, but the further you go from London, the poorer your picture will become.... which means people up near John O'Groats must get terrible pictures!

Hope this explains things for you.


Nearly right.

The transmitters are not switched off; their main programme feeds are cut. This is meant to trigger the transmitter to switch to it's back up feed, which is usually picked up off air from the nearest transmitter to it.

So in effect, every transmitter in the UK, except Crystal Palace, becomes a relay. They are not all relays of CP, but relays of the nearest transmitter that is broadcasting. It's like a daisy chain.

The theory is that the picture quality will get weaker and weaker the further north you go, as each transmitter's incoming signal is only as good as the one before, plus interference.
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BBC News 24 Relaunch

Moz posted:
With Me, Tim Wilcox posted:
Guto Harri is BBC News Chief Political Correspondent, not just BBC News 24s!! In much the same way Andrew Marr is the BBC Political Editor. Only Newsnight is the exception, where the Political Editor is Martha Kearny. How does she sit in the pecking order in relation to Andrew Marr??? The Chief Political Correspondent role has been filled by John Sergeant in the past.


Guto is Chief Political Correspondant and Andrew Marr Politial Editor, but Guto 'looks after' News 24 and Andrew 'looks after' 1/6/10.


Not quite.

Andrew Marr is now dedicated to the Six. He used to be dedicated to the Ten, but he switched because his working day was too long. (started with Today prog at 6am, ending after the Ten)

Mark Mardell is the policital correspondent dedicated to the Ten. He swapped with Marr as per above.

As far as I know the One doesn't have a dedicated policital corr, so you'll see whoever the pol corr on duty. Marr/Mardell/Hari do appear on the One, but only when big political news is happening.

Martha Kearney is Newsnight's 'political editor'. She doesn't work any other programme but Newsnight.

Guto Harri is News 24's Chiel Political Correspondent, working mainly for N24, but is seen on other outlets.

John Pienaar is now Radio 5 Live's dedicated policital correspondent.
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Sky News thread

martinDTanderson posted:
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Martin, you are the least qualified to tell anyone what to do. Anyone who sits up with a clock to see if new graphics come online dead on an hour isn't living in the real world.

Oh like I really am going to take life lessons from a guy who calls himself Dog! My Insombnia is no concern of yours thank you very much!

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Anyway, if you knew about camera, you'd know that no cameraman would set up his/her camera to not be level. Even the jib (polecam as you call it) is set to level. Professional studios don't have wonky tripods.

I do know of the camera, I am studying a Digital Arts and Digital Animation degree, camerawork and experience is a basic part to the course. At the time of taking the picture, the camera was adjusting the position. That particular camera is situated on the other side of the newsroom AFAIK, and so the eye level wasnt adjusted and was being rectified as I was taking the shot!

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The shot you're refering to just looks like the camera is quite a distance from the presenter, meaning the depth of field makes the ofset back wall seem pointing up. Whatever the shot, the cameras/tripods are not the fault.

I guess you didnt understand the fact I was being sarcastic over the Tripod comment, but then again, who am I to be explaining such a basic concept of comedy! Rolling Eyes


So if the camera was adjusting it's shot at the time you took the grab, why post it saying that Sky News' shots are bad. (I paraphrase ofcourse)

The name I use is not of importance. But if any managers reading these boards were to get a CV from a Digital Arts student called Martin Anderson, comments like saying their tripods are crap (said in jest or not) might mean the CV got 'filed'.
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Sky News thread

Dan posted:
Dog posted:
Hard counts are nothing new. Any director can bring a programme out on time. To have a presenter to be cut off mid sentence is either the director not getting the countdown right, or the presenter not finishing on the count to zero.


Although it wouldn't normally be the director counting, it would be a PA or NTA.


Lol. Some news galleries don't have the luxury of a PA. Laughing Bless Dorothy's little heart, but she can be annoying at times.
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Sky News thread

martinDTanderson posted:
The SKYnews is angled, because the camera was not properly lined up. And the two presenters perched on the desk, was as the two of them were giving a roundup of the news and closing the programme.

Perhaps you should watch it as opposed to passing judgement over pictures.


Martin, you are the least qualified to tell anyone what to do. Anyone who sits up with a clock to see if new graphics come online dead on an hour isn't living in the real world.

Anyway, if you knew about camera, you'd know that no cameraman would set up his/her camera to not be level. Even the jib (polecam as you call it) is set to level. Professional studios don't have wonky tripods.

The shot you're refering to just looks like the camera is quite a distance from the presenter, meaning the depth of field makes the ofset back wall seem pointing up. Whatever the shot, the cameras/tripods are not the fault.
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Sky News thread

tsunami__active posted:

Well in case you hadn't notice the TOTH sequence is timed with the preceeding ads. So when an hour finishes on Sky News it automatically cuts in with ads to time correctly up to the top of the hour. (The problem with having a fixed time countdown sequence).
Hence why you often see presenters cut off in their prime: "Stay with us here on...." being the most common of the lot.

Therefore the presenters have to "fill" to a certain time leading to "filler" chats often about the preceeding "light" story covered at about xx:53. It is therefore 'banter on request' and I personally find it tedious and patronising in the extreme.


Hard counts are nothing new. Any director can bring a programme out on time. To have a presenter to be cut off mid sentence is either the director not getting the countdown right, or the presenter not finishing on the count to zero.
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BBC News 24 Relaunch

Mark Boulton posted:
Yes it does happen, DOG. All the time. I suggest you look a little more carefully.


What happens... the BIG headline text does not change size, except when animating on to another aston.
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BBC News 24 Relaunch

fanoftv posted:
Dog posted:
martinDTanderson posted:
The size of the Headline text changes to fit in the red space. Shrinking back to normal size occasionally!


No it doesn't. There is a character limit, just like there's a limit on Ceefax headlines on page 101.


It does shrink down, usually when they have a reporter doing a live piece about the breaking news and they need extra space on the black bar.


It shrinks to a totally different size when a 2 line aston needs to go underneath, eg to name a reporter.

But Martin is talking about the BIG headline text changing size to accomodate a longer headline. This doesn't happen. The text producer has to work a headline to fit int he space available.