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Nick Quraishi did the Early Rundown today as a result which I think is probably a first.
I have to say as well I’m not sure Kay’s show from Washington has really been warranted, to stand there for 3 hours, looking freezing, during what is the early hours 3am-6am (2am-5am next week). It’s added very little in my opinion and considering she’ll need to be off for two weeks when she does arrive back in the UK; I’m not sure it’s worth her missing two weeks of shows. I’d have sent another anchor, to co-anchor the breakfast show (Sally Lockwood is already there or even someone like Gamal or Isabel), allowing Kay to stay in Westminster, especially considering the UK news agenda is still pretty busy.
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Steven in the glass box again this morning. Surprising considering they’ve been trailing Kay as in Washington all week. In actual fact, she only did 3 days. Interesting that the unpopular Kay Burley graphic from earlier this week hasn’t resurfaced. Have to say, I really like Steven. Particularly his pairing with Gillian. Would like to see him teamed up with Kay sometime. I imagine that would be an interesting dynamic 
Nick Quraishi did the Early Rundown today as a result which I think is probably a first.
I have to say as well I’m not sure Kay’s show from Washington has really been warranted, to stand there for 3 hours, looking freezing, during what is the early hours 3am-6am (2am-5am next week). It’s added very little in my opinion and considering she’ll need to be off for two weeks when she does arrive back in the UK; I’m not sure it’s worth her missing two weeks of shows. I’d have sent another anchor, to co-anchor the breakfast show (Sally Lockwood is already there or even someone like Gamal or Isabel), allowing Kay to stay in Westminster, especially considering the UK news agenda is still pretty busy.
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I suppose that’s what was raised yesterday; a week or at a least few days early. I’m not sure the UK news agenda was ever to be US Election led or dominated today, covid/track and trace/Welsh firebreak/free school meals were always going to feature higher.
My point regarding the graphic, was more about the fact it wasn’t in the style of the usual programme title cards/ever used before. I’m not quite sure why Kay Burley’s programme, and Sky News at Ten for that matter, don’t have title cards when other branded slots do.
But doesn’t Sky News at Ten have a completely different opening to every other slot too - the clock face forming?
Here’s the big screen graphic, for anyone that didn’t see it
Yes aware of this, but I’m not sure that stops it having a title card? The clock face with “Sky News at Ten”, in the same style as Sky News Tonight etc, would probably help with the visual branding of the programme and I’m not sure it would make the hour any less distinctive, quite the opposite.
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Editorial decision - launching with a “we’re in Washington for the election” angle is a bit irrelevant if they’re leading with the tanker.
I suppose that’s what was raised yesterday; a week or at a least few days early. I’m not sure the UK news agenda was ever to be US Election led or dominated today, covid/track and trace/Welsh firebreak/free school meals were always going to feature higher.
My point regarding the graphic, was more about the fact it wasn’t in the style of the usual programme title cards/ever used before. I’m not quite sure why Kay Burley’s programme, and Sky News at Ten for that matter, don’t have title cards when other branded slots do.
But doesn’t Sky News at Ten have a completely different opening to every other slot too - the clock face forming?
Here’s the big screen graphic, for anyone that didn’t see it
Yes aware of this, but I’m not sure that stops it having a title card? The clock face with “Sky News at Ten”, in the same style as Sky News Tonight etc, would probably help with the visual branding of the programme and I’m not sure it would make the hour any less distinctive, quite the opposite.
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Seemingly some issues? No Kay Burley. Stephen Dixon presenting from the Glass Box - a new ‘Kay Burley’ graphic (that I hadn’t seen before) used a background image on the big screen.
Looks like a change of plan last night.
Editorial decision - launching with a “we’re in Washington for the election” angle is a bit irrelevant if they’re leading with the tanker.
I suppose that’s what was raised yesterday; a week or at a least few days early. I’m not sure the UK news agenda was ever to be US Election led or dominated today, covid/track and trace/Welsh firebreak/free school meals were always going to feature higher.
My point regarding the graphic, was more about the fact it wasn’t in the style of the usual programme title cards/ever used before. I’m not quite sure why Kay Burley’s programme, and Sky News at Ten for that matter, don’t have title cards when other branded slots do.
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Kay Burley's show is from Washington starting on Monday.
America Decides. Join us on #KayBurley @SkyNews every week day morning from 7am pic.twitter.com/EFlUaXGbkL
— Kay Burley (@KayBurley) October 24, 2020
Seemingly some issues? No Kay Burley. Stephen Dixon presenting from the Glass Box - a new ‘Kay Burley’ graphic (that I hadn’t seen before) used a background image on the big screen.
Change of plan for tomorrow... I will be on sky news breakfast from 7-10, if you're free
— Stephen Dixon (@skystephen) October 25, 2020
Looks like a change of plan last night.
Editorial decision - launching with a “we’re in Washington for the election” angle is a bit irrelevant if they’re leading with the tanker.
I suppose that’s what was raised yesterday; a week or at a least few days early. I’m not sure the UK news agenda was ever to be US Election led or dominated today, covid/track and trace/Welsh firebreak/free school meals were always going to feature higher.
My point regarding the graphic, was more about the fact it wasn’t in the style of the usual programme title cards/ever used before. I’m not quite sure why Kay Burley’s programme, and Sky News at Ten for that matter, don’t have title cards when other branded slots do.
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Seemingly some issues? No Kay Burley. Stephen Dixon presenting from the Glass Box - a new ‘Kay Burley’ graphic (that I hadn’t seen before) used a background image on the big screen.
Looks like a change of plan last night.
The Sky News Thread
Kay Burley's show is from Washington starting on Monday.
America Decides. Join us on #KayBurley @SkyNews every week day morning from 7am pic.twitter.com/EFlUaXGbkL
— Kay Burley (@KayBurley) October 24, 2020
Seemingly some issues? No Kay Burley. Stephen Dixon presenting from the Glass Box - a new ‘Kay Burley’ graphic (that I hadn’t seen before) used a background image on the big screen.
Change of plan for tomorrow... I will be on sky news breakfast from 7-10, if you're free
— Stephen Dixon (@skystephen) October 25, 2020
Looks like a change of plan last night.
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This evenings Sky News Tonight coming from the Glass Box tonight as a result.
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Sky News special programme coming from Millbank at 9pm. I think this will be the first time we (intentionally) see a different look in the screens... nice blue theme across the graphics, lightboxes and ribbons.
As cases of #Coronavirus rise and a #WelshLockdown is announced, what’s the best way of dealing with #COVID19 in the UK? Join @annabotting with a panel of experts & virtual studio audience tonight at 9pm @SkyNews pic.twitter.com/xApnJDk162
— Neil Dunwoodie (@NeilDunwoodie) October 19, 2020
This evenings Sky News Tonight coming from the Glass Box tonight as a result.
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This constant stream of “Sky News isn’t what it used to be” is tedious. It borders on being worse than rota coverage. Not my call, but I’d almost suggest a new thread for this kind of rose tinted look back at yesteryear. While I can agree that a refresh could be in order and maybe some of the branding has gone a bit off beat - a breakfast slot no one knows what to call etc. - I doubt any refresh would bring us to anywhere like what people seem to be calling for every few days in this thread.
The clip you've linked isn’t too dissimilar to the use of the screen in the glass box, Colin Brazier on Sky News Today was standing at the screen going through the lockdown tiers, just today. Sky do have personality driven shows, the whole morning 7am-12pm is very presenter focused with Kay/Ian/Adam having their slots which have different formats utilising different way of presenting. Sky News Today, which tends to be the most general show of the day thus far, is mostly sat down behind the desk but they make use of the screen for interviews and graphics and sometimes stand up for certain elements as mentioned above. The Sarah Jane Mee show again differs from the preceding slot, by been all stood up, and again has a different brief with a more human interest skew; pre pandemic they’d often have guest in the studio in the corner area. I’ll not go further into the day as I feel like I’ve made my point, but I think people forget that sometimes it’s not about how the show is presented that differs it from one show to the other but it’s the running order and journalism.
The whole tone of the channel has changed. The mid 2000s are gone, ITV News had a pretty tabloid style back then. It’s changed considerably too. Sky was over the top, it may have been interesting to us having triple headed shows, people walking about massive studios and unnecessarily using various areas but it’s a news channel. Times change, Sky’s adapted and let’s remember while this is a presentation forum, Sky might have toned it down but the journalism is what’s most important.
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Watching Sky News Tonight....presented by someone that vaguely resembles Stephen Dixon. Geeezz. His presenting style used to be amazing. This program is a complete snooze fest. Im sitting here wondering what happened?! Its all bunch of sighs and quiet talking and the repetitive theme bed. The image behind Stephen is actually warping or wobbling. Sighhh. The channel no longer has the "authoritative", sit-up and taken notice air about it. It always had a pacey slightly tabloid-esque (or populist) air about it without stepping over the line. Think BFMTV without having that flashy FOX NEWS craziness. Content aside and journalism aside. After all this is a presentation forum.
How do we go from this...to the presentation snoozefest we have now..And this was the quieter period.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84iTgwylg7g
How do we go from this...to the presentation snoozefest we have now..And this was the quieter period.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84iTgwylg7g
This constant stream of “Sky News isn’t what it used to be” is tedious. It borders on being worse than rota coverage. Not my call, but I’d almost suggest a new thread for this kind of rose tinted look back at yesteryear. While I can agree that a refresh could be in order and maybe some of the branding has gone a bit off beat - a breakfast slot no one knows what to call etc. - I doubt any refresh would bring us to anywhere like what people seem to be calling for every few days in this thread.
The clip you've linked isn’t too dissimilar to the use of the screen in the glass box, Colin Brazier on Sky News Today was standing at the screen going through the lockdown tiers, just today. Sky do have personality driven shows, the whole morning 7am-12pm is very presenter focused with Kay/Ian/Adam having their slots which have different formats utilising different way of presenting. Sky News Today, which tends to be the most general show of the day thus far, is mostly sat down behind the desk but they make use of the screen for interviews and graphics and sometimes stand up for certain elements as mentioned above. The Sarah Jane Mee show again differs from the preceding slot, by been all stood up, and again has a different brief with a more human interest skew; pre pandemic they’d often have guest in the studio in the corner area. I’ll not go further into the day as I feel like I’ve made my point, but I think people forget that sometimes it’s not about how the show is presented that differs it from one show to the other but it’s the running order and journalism.
The whole tone of the channel has changed. The mid 2000s are gone, ITV News had a pretty tabloid style back then. It’s changed considerably too. Sky was over the top, it may have been interesting to us having triple headed shows, people walking about massive studios and unnecessarily using various areas but it’s a news channel. Times change, Sky’s adapted and let’s remember while this is a presentation forum, Sky might have toned it down but the journalism is what’s most important.
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The Sky News Thread
Also it’s about time Kay Burley got a desk of sorts for the breakfast slot, a coffee table or something. Oliver Dowden (Culture Secretary) has a cup of coffee on the floor of the studio during his interview this morning!
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The breaks are still approximately the same length as they were before. Sometimes there’s more in the first thirty minutes so the Papers runs short but that is an editorial rather than an advertising decision - particularly on nights where there’s only one paper in by 2230 which is not uncommon!
Apologies for pulling up a post a couple of days old however it would seem an odd decision to deliberately shorten the Press Preview. In my experience most nights they’re having to cut people off, sometimes I think it could go on for another 5 if not 10 minutes easily without feeling forced whatsoever. Sometimes they run over on time so that there’s no time for the weather/coming up sequence.
Speaking of timings, pretty awkward cut off on Friday with Samantha Washington on the ‘SJM Show’ shift. Interview about baby loss awareness week and the interviewee was cut off and not even time for Sam to apologise before she was cut off also. Made for pretty awkward television considering the subject.
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Is it me or is the Press Preview getting shorter and shorter. Doesn’t start til gone 35, then there is a break around 50 and they come back for about 3 or 4 mins before going to yet another break ahead of the TOH. All told, we get less than 20 mins. Surely they could bin the break half way through. There’s over 10 mins of ads in that back half hour!!
The breaks are still approximately the same length as they were before. Sometimes there’s more in the first thirty minutes so the Papers runs short but that is an editorial rather than an advertising decision - particularly on nights where there’s only one paper in by 2230 which is not uncommon!
Apologies for pulling up a post a couple of days old however it would seem an odd decision to deliberately shorten the Press Preview. In my experience most nights they’re having to cut people off, sometimes I think it could go on for another 5 if not 10 minutes easily without feeling forced whatsoever. Sometimes they run over on time so that there’s no time for the weather/coming up sequence.
Speaking of timings, pretty awkward cut off on Friday with Samantha Washington on the ‘SJM Show’ shift. Interview about baby loss awareness week and the interviewee was cut off and not even time for Sam to apologise before she was cut off also. Made for pretty awkward television considering the subject.
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Overnights are also back in studio 6, they had been coming from the glass box for most of the time since March. Before the pandemic didn’t the weekend 10-2 & 2-5 shifts usually come from Studio 6 in any case?
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Sky News coming from Studio 6 currently - hopefully they’re trying to fix the desk in the Glass Box!
Overnights are also back in studio 6, they had been coming from the glass box for most of the time since March. Before the pandemic didn’t the weekend 10-2 & 2-5 shifts usually come from Studio 6 in any case?
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Problem with the desk, I assume. Stephen was also on a stool at the very start of the Early Rundown this morning, and the Press Preview had the desk in a different position, with Anna also on a stool also. Sam Naz presented from studio 6 from midnight til 6am.
Interesting that Sky News Today is double headed today, it’s been Jayne solo all this week.
Also congrats to Gillian!
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Gillian and Sam Washington are presenting Sky News Today with a raised desk today and sitting on stools in the Glassbox - is this a first time thing?
Problem with the desk, I assume. Stephen was also on a stool at the very start of the Early Rundown this morning, and the Press Preview had the desk in a different position, with Anna also on a stool also. Sam Naz presented from studio 6 from midnight til 6am.
Interesting that Sky News Today is double headed today, it’s been Jayne solo all this week.
Also congrats to Gillian!
Congratulations to my fantastic colleague and all round lovely person @skygillian on her 15 years at @skynews. Looking forward to co presenting with her today 12-2. pic.twitter.com/UBIGT4nUcX
— Samantha Washington (@skynewsSam) October 2, 2020
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I believe the continuity going into the regional news is played in by the regions, so Yorkshire probably didn’t have the facilities to play any sort of separate announcement for Granada. Not to mention they’d need London to record such an announcement.
Technical problems for Granada Reports
You do have to question why the playout centre couldn't have dropped in an occasion caption apologising for (or even just acknowledging) the lack of Granada Reports. I guess the Granada region would have got the Yorkshire continuity announcement into Calendar?
I believe the continuity going into the regional news is played in by the regions, so Yorkshire probably didn’t have the facilities to play any sort of separate announcement for Granada. Not to mention they’d need London to record such an announcement.