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Bvsh Hovse

bbc.co.uk

Thanks, Bvsh House. Do you know which language site is next? Is Chinese anytime soon? I'd be interested to see that site in particular using the new branding.


Sounds like you already know what's coming next Smile

Although the World Service produces two seperate China sites. The 'blue' site is the news and current affairs site. This one is usually blocked from inside China. There is also the 'orange' site which contains resources for learning English, and does not get blocked inside China.

I know work is in progress to move the blue site out of CPS into Topcat, but I don't know where the orange site fits in.
BH
Bvsh Hovse

bbc.co.uk

BBC Türkçe relaunched yesterday:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/turkce/images/1024/brand_turkish.jpg
BH
Bvsh Hovse

BBC Television Centre

I didn't realise the studio red lights are no longer controlled centrally at TVC as it is something we take for granted at Bush House. Although you are always taught that a lack of red light does not mean that nobody is listening to you.

In the studios that have control of their own OS lines, once you dial in a router source you are offered 'listen' and sometimes 'facilities' too. If the source is another studio then facilites mode will mean the other studio has it's red light triggered as you open the OS fader.

(And don't mention Siemens and phones...)

Yes, I think we all have a IP telephony incident incident to bitch about. Last year someone manged to take out the whole of the Reith network in Bush by plugging one in incorrectly.
BH
Bvsh Hovse

BBC Television Centre

Television Centre still has plenty examples of it's jaunty STUDIOS 1-3 black text on white perspex signing.

Up until about 6 months ago most of Bush House was still had signs in italics all over the place. Facilities then went on the war path removing it along with any customised office door signs, then replaced most of it with the Gill Sans signage you find on any other BBC site. It's a shame really, as there was something about the old italic signs that suited the building.
BH
Bvsh Hovse

BBC Television Centre

I suppose it doesn't include the central wedge either?

I went for a wonder through what's left of it on the 4th floor recently when I had some time to kill. Nothing but office space now. I was hoping 'the broom cupboard' was still there, but sadly not.

Inspector Sands posted:
noggin posted:

Don't think anyone would miss the periphery pre-fabs or the pretty shabby stuff extending out on the 7th floor.

Most people weren't important enough to make it up to the 7th floor! Laughing

Isn't the 7th floor the business lounge and hotdesk space above stage door, or is that the 6th floor? I'm not there often, so if I find an office without doing a lap of the doughnut I consider it a success Smile
BH
Bvsh Hovse

BBC Television Centre

Looking at the Ariel article on the listing it suggests that the listing is JUST the Doughnut (i.e. the 7 story central ring) and TC1 and none of the other studios - which extend out of the doughnut.

The listing letter says:
Quote:
The Secretary of State is not persuaded that the other studios, the scenery block or the canteen are of special interest but he considers that it would be difficult to exclude these buildings from the listing given their structural attachment to the central ring and studio 1.

which at first glance might suggest more is listed, once you read the detail you realise that they are excluded from the listing despite the difficulties. I'll hold my hands up - I read this as meaning more was listed when it actually isn't.
BH
Bvsh Hovse

BBC Television Centre

I imagine the end result is that they'll sell most of the land, but keep the actual donut part and studio 1 as a studio building, selling/closing most of the land such as the spur etc.


I'm going to interested to see how this pans out, as it would be a very difficult site if you demolished everything except the listed bits. I've been looking at Google Earth to work out how the site could be carved up, there are a couple of quick easy wins (East Tower area and Stages 5+6 / Spur area with maybe TC8 too) but beyond that you are working round the buildings that get left. I imagine access and security would start to get tricky quite quickly if the rest of the site remained in use.

I didn't realise how far south the site went until I looked at the Google Earth photos though, I've never ventured any further down that part of the site than Snack Express.
BH
Bvsh Hovse

Michael Jackson 1958-2009

There seems to be no repeat rights granted to broadcasters, which may explain it.


IIRC only 45 second clips to be rerun without getting additional rights clearence.
BH
Bvsh Hovse

BBC London TV News

Is BH ready to to staffed? Blimey that was quick.

Did it end up looking as futuristic as the original architects renders?


They are moving into the Egton Wing of BH, using the empty floors below BBC Arabic and Persian.

The new section of BH which is built where the old BHX and BHXX were has just topped out. Current thinking in World Service is that technical fit out will begin in 2010 with the move out of Bush beginning in 2012. I don't know what the timetable for News moving out of TVC is, but it probably isn't much different.
BH
Bvsh Hovse

bbc.co.uk

BBC Urdu website to relaunch next week.


It's already using the Lambie-Nairn branding though. What changes are to be made when it relaunches?


Doh! I've lost track of which ones have been done, I was thinking of BBC Hindi which went live earlier today.

http://bbc.co.uk/hindi/images/1024/hindi_globe_brand.jpg
Last edited by Bvsh Hovse on 6 July 2009 1:44am
BH
Bvsh Hovse

bbc.co.uk

BBC Urdu website to relaunch next week.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/images/1024/brand.jpg
BH
Bvsh Hovse

bbc.co.uk

I see what you're saying Bvsh House - but then have the white graphics aged better?


My view on this, for what its worth, is that I think the Arabic branding tries too hard to be new and futuristic. In doing so it pretty much places itself firmly in 2006. Kind of in the same way that sci-fi programmes can look dated quite quickly by showing their idea of the future at the point the programme was made.

The current branding contains elements that date back to when we got rid of the flags, so they have been in there 10 years. Does any aspect of the new Arabic site look 10 years old though? Not to me, because by making small incremental tweeks over the years, and getting rid of the more extravagent ones, the design has remained fresh.

I know the back to basics approach of the LN branding isn't as exciting as everyone would like, but this is its strength, and is responsible for its longevity.

However the great thing about design is its all subjective, theres no right and wrong answer. And two people can have vastly different views about the same thing without either (or both) being right or wrong.