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BBC World News from New Broadcasting House

bkman1990 posted:
I agree. I hope they do give the set a revamp as well. Another thing is would they have enough room at their hub in DC to rebuild it?

If they only had that set in their possession and had nowhere else to move in their building I would be thinking along the lines of a major refurbishment to make it look like the style of NBH would be sufficient. Another thing to look out for is what to place in the set & allocation of their budget.

How many Sq Metres is available in their current hub in DC compared to the one in Singapore?


Didn't they revamp the studio fairly recently (within the last five years or so)? In the current atmosphere of BBC cuts, is a big and expensive revamp unlikely?
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Bob Paisley

BBC World News from New Broadcasting House

Might this just be a temporary, it's-August, not-much-news-happening-in-the-summer sort of thing?
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Bob Paisley

BBC World News from New Broadcasting House

The SNT Three posted:
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Steve in Pudsey posted:

Yes, it's every persons individual choice whether they want to take illegal, unofficial action by refusing to cross a picket line, putting themselves in breach of contract, liable to disciplinary action or jeopardising their chances of future freelance work and their livelihood.

If you're not both working in the area that is on strike and in the relevant union, any action beyond refusing to do work which would otherwise be done by a striking colleague is an extremely bad career move.

Everyone who is in possession of the full facts might be entitied to decide whether they think somebody's choice to cross a picket line is reasonable. Keyboard warriors who seem to think we're still in Scargill's era, not so much.

Edit: of course management know who is a member, subs are paid directly from the salary for most people.


We can agree to disagree on the ethics and effectiveness of industrial action but what you said about management knowing who is a member of a union is just factually wrong. I'm a member of a union but my membership subscription comes out of my bank account after my employee has paid me. It doesn't come directly from them to the union. My employer has no idea what I choose to do with my money once I've been paid. It's none of their business - and it would be extremely sinister if they knew what was going on in my bank account.


Not always the case though. In some workplaces union subscriptions do come directly from the wage packet. So the previous statement wasn't factually wrong - although it may not apply in the case

Fair enough. I'm slightly astonished if that's the case, as I find it a pretty sinister thing. But if it's true, I hold my hands up, I was wrong.

I still think scabbing is wrong though.
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BBC World News from New Broadcasting House

Steve in Pudsey posted:
Bob Paisley posted:
Steve in Pudsey posted:

Or not, for reasons of secondary action being illegal and staff having no protection, as has been explained in this thread already.

It's hardly secondary action for presenters on the channel in question to refuse to cross a picket line - and the management won't know who is or isn't a member of a union. It is every person's individual choice whether to withdraw their labour or not. But equally it is every person's individual choice to criticise them or praise them for that decision.


Yes, it's every persons individual choice whether they want to take illegal, unofficial action by refusing to cross a picket line, putting themselves in breach of contract, liable to disciplinary action or jeopardising their chances of future freelance work and their livelihood.

If you're not both working in the area that is on strike and in the relevant union, any action beyond refusing to do work which would otherwise be done by a striking colleague is an extremely bad career move.

Everyone who is in possession of the full facts might be entitied to decide whether they think somebody's choice to cross a picket line is reasonable. Keyboard warriors who seem to think we're still in Scargill's era, not so much.

Edit: of course management know who is a member, subs are paid directly from the salary for most people.


We can agree to disagree on the ethics and effectiveness of industrial action but what you said about management knowing who is a member of a union is just factually wrong. I'm a member of a union but my membership subscription comes out of my bank account after my employee has paid me. It doesn't come directly from them to the union. My employer has no idea what I choose to do with my money once I've been paid. It's none of their business - and it would be extremely sinister if they knew what was going on in my bank account.
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Bob Paisley

BBC World News from New Broadcasting House

Steve in Pudsey posted:
Bob Paisley posted:


I'm sure the union would ask all members, wherever they are, to abide by the strike. They would also ask all other staff and freelancers not to cross the picket line.


Or not, for reasons of secondary action being illegal and staff having no protection, as has been explained in this thread already.

It's hardly secondary action for presenters on the channel in question to refuse to cross a picket line - and the management won't know who is or isn't a member of a union. It is every person's individual choice whether to withdraw their labour or not. But equally it is every person's individual choice to criticise them or praise them for that decision.
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Bob Paisley

BBC World News from New Broadcasting House

Rkolsen posted:
Bob Paisley posted:
Ali Moore scabbing, then...

I thought the strike was London only?


I'm sure the union would ask all members, wherever they are, to abide by the strike. They would also ask all other staff and freelancers not to cross the picket line.
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BBC World News from New Broadcasting House

Ali Moore scabbing, then...
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BBC News Channel & World News to merge?

Rkolsen posted:
London Lite posted:
Brekkie posted:
Outside Source on the other hand just looks like a filler show.


Outside Source has news, but is delivered in a non-traditional way by BBC standards. The problem with the show isn't that it doesn't have Ros Atkins behind a desk, more that it's an international news show, the same issues that the other World simulcasts have with the exception of BBC Business Live which has a UK segment.

If I had to characterize Outside Source I would say it's more analysis driven than a anchor presenting a package. A show will typically have analysis from a presenter giving his or her interpretation of the news article or other journalists from the BBC that would never get airtime on a regular show.


I can't bear Outside Source. It's such a bitty watch - and I can't stand Ros Atkins. That is a personal preference of mine, though. He might be a perfectly decent presenter, but I just can't take to him for some reason.
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EU Referendum

bbcsport posted:
So this Sky overnight build-up programme tonight.

Do the broadcasting regulations not kick in after midnight?

Will they not be rather limited in what they can talk about?


Don't the restrictions (other than the existing restrictions on everything being fair and balanced, already in place) come into force when the polls open? Which is 7am I think.
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Channel 4 News

newsman1 posted:
Why does Helia Ebrahimi not do the name-check that reporters usually do at the end of a report?


None of the reporters on Channel 4 do 'signoffs' at the end of their reports (unless they're on location somewhere like Washington etc). It's not something I like - personally I think all reporters should sign off their reports - but it's Channel 4's house style.
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Sky News 2015 new look

Surely a real window is fine if you have a wonderful skyline behind you - but Sky News is based in an industrial estate in west London. The view out of the window won't be much to write home about.
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BBC World News from New Broadcasting House

deejay posted:
If both channels are not simultaneously available in any particular market, how can there be any confusion?


There is some confusion, as was remarked earlier, when there is simulcasting.