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New look ITN

tvmercia posted:
Bob Paisley posted:
I wonder if all this p***ing about with endcaps and logos betrays a certain panic at Gray's Inn Road. They've spent all this money on a big revamp and it looks like it's a bit of a mess to be honest.


revamp? you mean the itv news revamp? itn is more than itv news, which i think is the point of the refreshed itn image. cant say im overwhelmed by it, but i can see the logic. itn are now producing content for mobile, internet and broadband platforms, and they want an image that reflects that.


I'm more than well aware that ITN is more than just ITV News (not that I like using the name ITV News - I'm more of an ITN traditionalist) and I was referring to the ITN revamp - not the updated set for ITV.

I imagine they'll have got some company in to do a new logo - and it'll all have sounded great on paper - but the thing just looks a bit crap now.
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New look ITN

I wonder if all this pissing about with endcaps and logos betrays a certain panic at Gray's Inn Road. They've spent all this money on a big revamp and it looks like it's a bit of a mess to be honest.
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BBC News 24

all new Phil posted:
Moz posted:
Anyone else find Ben & Emily - particularly Emily - growing on them?

I think they're friggin awful, personally.


I always thought this was the most bizarre bit of News 24's mini-revamp. Two presenters who've never worked together, who've got absolutely no chemistry together. She's got a very quiet style, almost sardonic, not really suited to 24-hour news and he's very inexperienced. It's a risky thing to put this pairing in a very exposed slot - particularly as their main competitor is struggling.
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US Anchors vs UK Newsreaders

channel2tv posted:
Bob Paisley posted:
I think this is mostly **** quite frankly. Has he ever watched American news? Parochial, shallow, superficial, glitzy. Fantastically well produced, very slick with great headline sequences, but the content's dire. American reporters seem incapable of putting together decent packages. They're invariably short, cliched, shoddily put together. Nothing like as refined as a piece by - say - Matt Frei or Bill Neely (who, if you'll forgive me a slight digression, seems to have disappeared recently).

I'm not unaware of the faults of British tv news, but holding America up as some sort of paragon of virtue seems absurd.


We value speed above all else. Trust me, I just came off a success in my first package for my University's TV Station, and I would love to delve into it more, but you use different methods of storytelling to make sure the entire thing can wrap up in about 1:20.

There's nothing wrong with that.



I'm not just criticising the brevity or speed of the reports, I'm critical of the rather unimaginative and plodding way the reports are put together. It's just link-clip-link-clip-link, usually written with no style or panache. When I was taught about writing to picture and putting together packages, we were told about sequences, letting pictures breathe. So many US reports ignore these rules - leading to poor work.
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US Anchors vs UK Newsreaders

I think this is mostly bollocks quite frankly. Has he ever watched American news? Parochial, shallow, superficial, glitzy. Fantastically well produced, very slick with great headline sequences, but the content's dire. American reporters seem incapable of putting together decent packages. They're invariably short, cliched, shoddily put together. Nothing like as refined as a piece by - say - Matt Frei or Bill Neely (who, if you'll forgive me a slight digression, seems to have disappeared recently).

I'm not unaware of the faults of British tv news, but holding America up as some sort of paragon of virtue seems absurd.
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BBC News 24

Joanna Gosling Fan posted:
Since my question in the Breakfast thread appears to have fallen by the wayside, I will ask it here instead. Why is it that the overnight bulletins simulcast on BBC News 24 and BBC World, do not have any breaks? How can BBC World manage this, when I was under the impression that certain regions opt out automatically at fixed points during the hour, which is why breaks have to be taken during The World Today?


The ad breaks are hidden. At about 12 minutes past the hour the presenter does a coming up in the bulletin promo. At this point World opts out to do ads. News 24 continues with news - timed very carefully to fill the pre-agreed gap. Then at about 15 minutes past World opts back in and the presenter does the quarter-past headlines. It's not perfect - sometimes there's a presenter pause before World opts back in - but it just about works.
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BBC Breakfast

NickyS posted:
Oh BTW you could see a new face on Breakfast next month ... one that will be familiar to some viewers of other channels Wink


You're such a tease. It's like the dance of the seven veils with you. Or in this case FIVE veils may be more appropriate.
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The Weather Forecast Thread

Who actually is lead presenter now? It used to be Helen Young, but since she left who replaced her?
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ITV News

Brekkie Boy posted:
Also, come on ITV and get a proper sports reporter in. If the 10.30 sport bulletin is so important, why let anyone read it. Mark Austin has more experience in the field than most the people reading it lately.


I've never entirely bought into this idea that whoever reads the sports belt has to be a sports specialist. It's ITV News, not Wisden. You don't need a particularly deep knowledge of sport to do it. It's all very populist, wide-appeal stuff - not obscure sports trivia.
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Extra ITV News Bulletins

onetrickpony posted:
I thought that when the ITV News Channel closed that there would be extra bulletins on ITV2/3/4, i emailed ITV and this was the reply,


Dear Shaun

Thank you for your recent email.

Unfortunately the information you have received is incorrect, there have
never been any plans to increase our news bulletins.

Regards
DUTY OFFICER - PR



ITN and ITV are notorious for this sort of thing - announcements and promises of things that never occur - usually timed to sweeten the pill when they're cutting back on news coverage.

When ITV renewed the ITN contract (scandalously lopping 10 million quid off the budget at the time) they said they were going to open an LA bureau and have an LA Correspondent. Presumably trying to prove they are committed to news after all. Of course it never happened. And surprise surprise these extra bulletins aren't happening either.

ITV - a total disgrace.
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Al Jazeera English & Al Jazeera America

newschannel posted:
Morale is so low at ITV and she deserves this break. She's a great talent.
Over and out from me.


I'd hardly go so far as to say a 'great talent'. She's okay as a newsreader - but was dreadful as a correspondent (so much so she was stopped from doing reporting for ITN - and ended up on the NC as a sort of booby prize). Quite captivating visually though.

As far as Al-Jazeera goes - bearing in mind the huge number of ex-ITN people who are going there (and presumably Sky and Beeb too) I think it's likely to be fairly sympathetic to the West.
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Al Jazeera English & Al Jazeera America

newschannel posted:
Morale is so low at ITV and she deserves this break. She's a great talent.
Over and out from me.


I'd hardly go so far as to say a 'great talent'. She's okay as a newsreader - but was dreadful as a correspondent (so much so she was stopped from doing reporting for ITN - and ended up on the NC as a sort of booby prize). Quite captivating visually though.

As far as Al-Jazeera goes - bearing in mind the huge number of ex-ITN people who are going there (and presumably Sky and Beeb too) I think it's likely to be fairly sympathetic to the West.