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What an idiotic post Why don't you compare Jeremy Bowen's report with Eamon Holmes newspaper review with minor celebs at 6.30. Shockingly the paper review on the world Business programme has a business bias from a Business personality.
As does the BBC NC but I doubt BBC World viewers care too much about the contents of the Daily Mail present company excepted of course.
I think it's indicative of the decline in standards in this forum over the past few years that 'Cando' should call me 'idiotic'. Having reviewed my post again, I can't find anything idiotic about it. It is expressing a view about a particular segment on BBC World News that I found ineffective, and poorly produced and presented. I hazard to guess that Cando did not actually see the segment. What have we come to when people who don't agree with a particular view resort to abuse and then go on to cite an irrelevant, apples and oranges comparison, that of Jeremy Bowen with Eamonn Holmes. By the way, Cando, your furhter reference to the Daily Mail is meaningless in the context in which you used it.
So, Cando, did you see the segment that aired in the UK on the NC at probably 0545 on Thursday morning? I was watching at 0845 in my own time zone on BBC World News.
BBC World News from New Broadcasting House
I'm just watching Sally Bundock, Naga Munchetty and a random guy billed as a strategist with a firm called Mint bumbling their way through the paper review (again) and was just wondering what is it that qualifies these City of London financiers to be commenting on international news. It's really quite myopic. This morning's 'expert' is having trouble with words like 'Islamist' in the context of the Egyptian coup and is offering a very simplistic analysis, one that my kids could easily have concocted.
So I turn over to Sky and find a package by Andrew Wilson - dispatched to Cairo - offering a succint and sophisticated analysis of the situation, kind of all you need to know in 4 minutes. And by the way if you want to see a really classy paper review, then tune in to Anna Botting with some proper Fleet Street journalists and editors on her weeknight show. Knocks BBC World News into the proverbial cocked hat.
So I turn over to Sky and find a package by Andrew Wilson - dispatched to Cairo - offering a succint and sophisticated analysis of the situation, kind of all you need to know in 4 minutes. And by the way if you want to see a really classy paper review, then tune in to Anna Botting with some proper Fleet Street journalists and editors on her weeknight show. Knocks BBC World News into the proverbial cocked hat.
What an idiotic post Why don't you compare Jeremy Bowen's report with Eamon Holmes newspaper review with minor celebs at 6.30. Shockingly the paper review on the world Business programme has a business bias from a Business personality.
And by the way if you want to see a really classy
paper review, then tune in to Anna Botting with some proper Fleet Street journalists and editors on her weeknight show
. Knocks BBC World News into the proverbial cocked hat.
As does the BBC NC but I doubt BBC World viewers care too much about the contents of the Daily Mail present company excepted of course.
I think it's indicative of the decline in standards in this forum over the past few years that 'Cando' should call me 'idiotic'. Having reviewed my post again, I can't find anything idiotic about it. It is expressing a view about a particular segment on BBC World News that I found ineffective, and poorly produced and presented. I hazard to guess that Cando did not actually see the segment. What have we come to when people who don't agree with a particular view resort to abuse and then go on to cite an irrelevant, apples and oranges comparison, that of Jeremy Bowen with Eamonn Holmes. By the way, Cando, your furhter reference to the Daily Mail is meaningless in the context in which you used it.
So, Cando, did you see the segment that aired in the UK on the NC at probably 0545 on Thursday morning? I was watching at 0845 in my own time zone on BBC World News.
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So I turn over to Sky and find a package by Andrew Wilson - dispatched to Cairo - offering a succint and sophisticated analysis of the situation, kind of all you need to know in 4 minutes. And by the way if you want to see a really classy paper review, then tune in to Anna Botting with some proper Fleet Street journalists and editors on her weeknight show. Knocks BBC World News into the proverbial cocked hat.
BBC World News from New Broadcasting House
I'm just watching Sally Bundock, Naga Munchetty and a random guy billed as a strategist with a firm called Mint bumbling their way through the paper review (again) and was just wondering what is it that qualifies these City of London financiers to be commenting on international news. It's really quite myopic. This morning's 'expert' is having trouble with words like 'Islamist' in the context of the Egyptian coup and is offering a very simplistic analysis, one that my kids could easily have concocted.So I turn over to Sky and find a package by Andrew Wilson - dispatched to Cairo - offering a succint and sophisticated analysis of the situation, kind of all you need to know in 4 minutes. And by the way if you want to see a really classy paper review, then tune in to Anna Botting with some proper Fleet Street journalists and editors on her weeknight show. Knocks BBC World News into the proverbial cocked hat.
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STV News
With regard to last week's refresh, the actual content, pace and presentation are fine, so are the new titles and graphics, and the rear-projected images are OK. But the set: Oh my goodness. It's dire. One of the news packages from the other night featured a clip from a Scotland Today set of maybe ten years ago and it looked infinitely superior. I mean do Rob Woodward and Alan Clements look at the STV News and think, 'hey, that looks great!'? Despite the space constraints, so much more could be done.
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Salford move
I wonder what would happen if NBC's Today show suddenly relocated to Wisconsin, or for that matter to nearby New Jersey. Come to think of it, it's only a couple of years since MSNBC closed down their production facility in New Jersey and legged it back to Rockefeller Plaza in mid Manhattan. The main reason was to de-duplicate expensive facilities, but content was offered as a reason too. Guests would simply not make the trek through the tunnel out of town to appear on MSNBC. Much of what is going on at the BBC is box ticking and makes no earthly sense. The Weakest Link moved from Pinewood to Pacific Quay in Glasgow because of this infernal nonsense. Martin Kempton, the respected lighting designer and industry commentator, points out that this has actually added to costs. For example, some of TWL's specialist lights have to be trucked up from London, rigged, programmed de-rigged and trucked back again. Kempton also rightly queries why these expensive new BBC broadcast centres, especially Pacific Quay with its massive Studio A, are not making programmes for their regions. As a Scot I can tell you that there is a total dearth of programming for Scotland. Instead, they have to artificially fill their studios with network content, often emptying perfectly adequate facilities elsewhere to do so. And do audiences care where things are made at the end of the day? I would suggest that the answer is no, except when it comes to high profile shows like Breakfast, where regional audiences want a little bit of the 'bright lights' offered by our capital city.
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BBC World News - to 14th January 2013
Fabulous revamp in terms of studio, graphics, camera positions, LED lighting and - frequently overlooked - content. Great also to see UK Report over the weekend, after considerable lobbying, and the various upgrades to title sequences, plus 16:9 from Singapore. One tiny reservation is the new tower created by the animated programme title straps. It's really quite distracting.
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Couldn't agree more. Well said. American news programmes/Letterman/The Today Show/Good Morning America/The Early Show/48 Hours etc. etc. etc. all make much of their New York location and heritage. London is the capital and people are drawn to it not just from around the country but around the world. Ah, focus groups! More PC rubbish from 20-something meedja people
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This is fantastic news for me, but only because moving the p***-poor Evening News to 6pm means I can catch Scotland Today at 6.30pm when I get home, rather than having to watch the God-awful Reporting Scotland for local news.
As for losing Big Ben - moronic. The only thing News At Ten has got going for it is its heritage. The whole Big Ben intro is the nearest thing British television has to an iconic, almost showbiz opening to a news programme, and it also plays on nostalgia, which is a big thing in times of recession. It's pretty much the only reason to watch ITV over the BBC's better-resourced programme.
NB - Just read on and see the time may be a misprint. Crap.
As for losing Big Ben - moronic. The only thing News At Ten has got going for it is its heritage. The whole Big Ben intro is the nearest thing British television has to an iconic, almost showbiz opening to a news programme, and it also plays on nostalgia, which is a big thing in times of recession. It's pretty much the only reason to watch ITV over the BBC's better-resourced programme.
NB - Just read on and see the time may be a misprint. Crap.
Couldn't agree more. Well said. American news programmes/Letterman/The Today Show/Good Morning America/The Early Show/48 Hours etc. etc. etc. all make much of their New York location and heritage. London is the capital and people are drawn to it not just from around the country but around the world. Ah, focus groups! More PC rubbish from 20-something meedja people
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Always fascinating to get these insights from Noggin. I was in New York for a week in July, watching HDTV on a massive LCD in my hotel room. Frankly, it all looked fantastic, especially the news.
Here in Dubai, where HD has just been introduced, it's equally stunning. However, there seems to be a multiplicity of standards, feeds, compression rates and screen formats impacting severely on the existing channels broadcasting in SD, some of which have become almost un-watchable.
Fox News 16:9 on Sky
Thanks for your very detailed reply, noggin. It was a fascinating read. The US HDTV channels looked OK to me during my visit this summer, but I was only watching on a small LCD TV (I'm guessing about 19-26"). I guess it would look worse on a larger screen?
Always fascinating to get these insights from Noggin. I was in New York for a week in July, watching HDTV on a massive LCD in my hotel room. Frankly, it all looked fantastic, especially the news.
Here in Dubai, where HD has just been introduced, it's equally stunning. However, there seems to be a multiplicity of standards, feeds, compression rates and screen formats impacting severely on the existing channels broadcasting in SD, some of which have become almost un-watchable.
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These first-rate idents, break bumpers, news titles, graphics, etc. are as far beyond the capabilities of PowerPoint as one can imagine. I think that STV now has an excellent look and feel, with just the 'right' amount of tartan accents. Also no visual cliches - like the old thistle. The colourways, the way the triangle 'resolves', the production values of the filmed sequences, the subtlety of the animation, the renders, the music bed, the news set - all are excellent. All we need now is some programmes!
STV News
Anne MacKenzie Fan posted:
Well it is amazing what stv can do with Power Point animations - what a load of crap!!
These first-rate idents, break bumpers, news titles, graphics, etc. are as far beyond the capabilities of PowerPoint as one can imagine. I think that STV now has an excellent look and feel, with just the 'right' amount of tartan accents. Also no visual cliches - like the old thistle. The colourways, the way the triangle 'resolves', the production values of the filmed sequences, the subtlety of the animation, the renders, the music bed, the news set - all are excellent. All we need now is some programmes!
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These first-rate idents, break bumpers, news titles, graphics, etc. are as far beyond the capabilities of PowerPoint as one can imagine. I think that STV now has an excellent look and feel, with just the 'right' amount of tartan accents. Also no visual cliches - like the old thistle. The colourways, the way the triangle 'resolves', the production values of the filmed sequences, the subtlety of the animation, the renders, the music bed, the news set - all are excellent. All we need now is some programmes!
STV News
Anne MacKenzie Fan posted:
Well it is amazing what stv can do with Power Point animations - what a load of crap!!
These first-rate idents, break bumpers, news titles, graphics, etc. are as far beyond the capabilities of PowerPoint as one can imagine. I think that STV now has an excellent look and feel, with just the 'right' amount of tartan accents. Also no visual cliches - like the old thistle. The colourways, the way the triangle 'resolves', the production values of the filmed sequences, the subtlety of the animation, the renders, the music bed, the news set - all are excellent. All we need now is some programmes!
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STV - 23 March revamp
I think the new idents, logo, break bumpers, etc. are the best STV have ever had and are far superior to those of ITV.
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Excuse me, but DUH.
I was referring to his film reviews which were broadcast on TV, and how they compared to his film reviews which appeared in tabloid newspaper print.
Which I think was clear enough if you had read what I wrote.
Ah, such great dialectic. As you don't seem to be blessed with an especially articulate style, it was easy to misconstrue the first lines of your original post.
But that was not the point of my response. Rather is was to counter your absolutely unfounded assertion that Barry Norman contradicted himself in print, or told 'porkies'. (Quite what you meant by that is beyond me.) Until he retired, he was a fixture on British TV screens for over two decades. He was highly respected as a film critic on both sides of the Atlantic. Having had the pleasure of working with him for a short period in the 1980s, I can attest to his professionalism, for which he was equally respected throughout factual at the BBC.
It's a shame that you should respond to my post so rudely. Another example of dumbed down, hectoring, whining Britain.
BBC World News: Presentation
Gavin Scott posted:
BBC World watcher posted:
Barry Norman did not review TV, he reviewed film.
Excuse me, but DUH.
I was referring to his film reviews which were broadcast on TV, and how they compared to his film reviews which appeared in tabloid newspaper print.
Which I think was clear enough if you had read what I wrote.
Ah, such great dialectic. As you don't seem to be blessed with an especially articulate style, it was easy to misconstrue the first lines of your original post.
But that was not the point of my response. Rather is was to counter your absolutely unfounded assertion that Barry Norman contradicted himself in print, or told 'porkies'. (Quite what you meant by that is beyond me.) Until he retired, he was a fixture on British TV screens for over two decades. He was highly respected as a film critic on both sides of the Atlantic. Having had the pleasure of working with him for a short period in the 1980s, I can attest to his professionalism, for which he was equally respected throughout factual at the BBC.
It's a shame that you should respond to my post so rudely. Another example of dumbed down, hectoring, whining Britain.