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Sky News

roxuk posted:
Some interesting stuff from Rubin in the Evening Standard interview..

On ratings he says- "I always though you judged a race after its over. This is more like a marathon than a sprint, but they seem to have drawn conclusions after the first 50 yards"


Yes, we TV viewers are fickle folk. We vote with our remotes if we don't like something.

roxuk posted:
Also the piece says "He readily admits live TV is harder than he though, and maybe his questions could be shorter, his delivery smoother. He also suggests he may not continue to present for five nights a week. "


Or even 1 night a week, which is a shame because I think he has enough knowledge to make him interesting to keep around.

I was thinking about this on the train today. Take The Sky Report and put it on Sky One (or Three), give it some serious content for a change. Maybe even put WNT on there too, and put Sky News back to what it should be.

Advantages:
1) gives Sky general channels some meaty content for a change.
2) The programmes actually aren't bad, but they should not have changed a rolling news channel to incorporate them.
3) Cross promotion of Sky News personalities on another Sky channel.

Disadvantages:
1) Pollard might still have to do a snivelling climbdown. No wait - that' s an advantage too. Laughing

cat posted:
Pollard has presided over the best years of the channel - award winning coverage of Louise Woodward, Kosovo, Iraq, Soham, Tsunami, and so on. His guidance has made the channel what it is.

WAS and IS. He made the channel what it was, and he is responsible for turning it into what it now is. Whatever possessed him to take a successful channel that was in need of a coat of paint, and destroy what he built up.

cat posted:
It's only because he's in the job that they've managed to avoid going down the Fox News route - the crap about OFCOM ''not letting them'' is, well, crap - and returning to the days of the late 80s/early 90s when they had News Corp lackeys running the show. There is, frankly, nobody who knows the 24 hour news business better in the UK than Pollard, and to ditch him would be a huge mistake.

For someone who "knows the 24 hour news business better" than anyone, he certainly has (at best) misjudged the mood of the audience (at worst) completely ****ed things up.
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Sky News

I can't say I had much opportunity to watch much TV last week, but I turned SNT on this afternoon, and saw a very serious piece with Jayne Secker in the studio (glad to see they have let her out from the Sky Report) talking about that girl who was slashed at school. But I was distracted by the backwards and forwards of the camera all through the interview. I could have got sea-sick! I had to close my eyes to pay attention to the interview, which was in itself perfectly acceptable.

I have come to the conclusion that the newswall is too big (or they need to show a closer shot of a person standing in front of it). During a flyover, Francis looked like he was waving "Coo-ee - I'm over here."

Finally, re: viewing figures. If they are that bad, can anybody smell a humiliating climbdown? How long will they persist with those ratings, before making major changes and firing people?
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Sky News

Call me slow if you like, but I know why JT looked incompetant last night. The strap said "breaking news" and then sat there for ages.
Do you think they told JT, and then left him sitting there with no info, having reacted to the news alert?
JT is great. He deserves better than that. He is better than that. *sigh*
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Sky News

cat posted:
but you've made yourself sound like an utter tard with your last post.

I'm going to ignore that.

cat posted:
Perhaps the consideration that they've just moved into a huge new production centre, with a tonne of unfamiliar technology, new shows, new presenters, new formats, means that things are a tiny bit shaky at the moment.

Remember they did it. They did not have to do the studio, graphics change, personnel/line-ups change, ATV programming all at the same time. They chose to, so apologies for not cutting them tons of slack.

cat posted:
Goodness me, anyone would think they were producing the thing just for you.

But they are, aren't they? Laughing

cat posted:
As for them not getting everything right all the time, clearly your watching of 24 hour news has fuelled your demand for instant gratification.

No actually. I am just working a lot of hours at the moment on a massive project at work, and I would like a decent news bulletin at whatever time I happen to get a chance to go home. Thus, I am a bit more grouchy than normal.

cat posted:
Why don't you wait a week - like any sensible person would do - or even a month and then examine it as closely again to see how they are getting on.

Hmmmm. Let's see. Have I stopped watching yet? No.
Have I been slagging off *everything*? No.
Have I claimed News 24 is the best thing since sliced bread? No.
Do I feel I am less likely to put Sky News on through my Sky Gnome than I would have done a week ago (if I had one then obviously)? At the present rate, yes.

cat posted:
Your assertion that they have destroyed a channel that you know and love, that it is a national disgrace, blah blah blah.

I do feel there has been a significant shift of focus, away from an agenda I liked to one I dislike. A national disgrace. No, there are far more important things that deserve that label.
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Sky News

I was going to come on and let rip, but having read the last dozen pages, I feel a bit sorry for them...

Moz posted:
There are a lot of talented people at Sky who know how to run a news channel. It's certainly not showing, but it will.

You know, having spent the whole of election night watching the director, vision mixers etc, I had the utmost respect for them. I really don't know what to make of this. It looks, well, just incompetant.
Arrow They have been late with 3 breaking news stories that I have seen tonight.
Arrow I love Jeremy, but what is going on with him?
Arrow I don't like the fact that people like Jayne Secker are allocated to the Sky Report.

Moz posted:
I don't want them to fail, I want them to push the bar higher. Only that way will the general standard of all TV news get better.

They have in the past. They were the place to go for big events like the tsunami, which were much more professional anchored from a disaster zone.
I think they believed their own hype. The titles are one part. They believed that people would follow like sheep, because we were loyal viewers. In TV-land, loyalty is paper thin. I loved Sky News, but I will go where gives me nearest to the service I want.
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Sky News

I too thought of both The Day Today and Blankety Blank.
I am not going to rip into it, not with it being day one.
Suffice it to say that they have killed the things I loved about Sky News.

Arrow Jeremy seemed really stumbly today (is he missing Anna? - I know I am).
Arrow Gillian - why? (when they have Anjali, Paula, Juliette etc - all much better presenters). [I did not get to see Ginny, so no comment there]
Arrow Eamonn was better than I expected though. The music and set are good (although there is a bit too much movement - that will settle down).
Arrow Not keen on the blue boxes, but the straps are OK, especially if they go back to 2 line guest details.
Arrow I think they will keep holding stories for their primetime segments - that I don't like.

I think they have given News 24 one heck of an opportunity to beat them once and for all. Do the folks at News 24 have the ability to take the opportunity?
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Sky News Thread - Relaunch on Monday

Breakfast News posted:

Saying Eamonn has no news experience is a little harsh. He may now be remembered as a 'presenter', but he is a journalist, and has coped with many news stories.

Maybe it is a little harsh, but I have to admit that I have no recollection of him being anything other than a 'presenter'.

Breakfast News posted:

In fact I believe he will be a great asset to Sky News, and we will really see him do well on the new-look Sunrise.

I hope he proves you right and me wrong. Just as long as he remembers he is on a news programme, not on the Eamonn Holmes show. That's my biggest concern. You know, like Nicky Campbell was on Five Live before Shelagh bought him down to size.
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Sky News Thread - Relaunch on Monday

martinDTanderson posted:
Aren't 2 presenters leaving, if they have said they are leaving, can you blaim sky for looking to hire replacements?

Perhaps they saw the writing on the wall? Jumped before they were pushed. Lisa Aziz has only been on Sky News for a decade or so.

Katnap posted:
The world evolves, and news channels evolve with it - much as sometimes we'd like things to stay the same.


Sometimes though, change is not necessary. ITV1 is not loosing viewers because their idents are naff, they are loosing viewers because their programmes are, so .... they change the idents. Good call. Confused

The same is true for Sky News. Change as in the new studio is fine. But why draft in old news 24 presenters or GMTV renegades with no news experience, when you have plenty of talent anyway, and most of it being pretty good too?

Believe it or not, it is OK not to change things. The world will not end. Someone needs to tell Nick Pollard that.
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Sky News Thread - Relaunch on Monday

Bob Friend. Now there was a news reader. He was great with both Viv and Anna.
Jeremy doesn't seem to do so well solo. He needs a foil to work off.
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Sky News Thread - Relaunch on Monday

If you can't rant about them needlessly changing a TV News Channel on a TV News Forum, where can you?
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Sky News Thread - Relaunch on Monday

I will, but they have already got rid of (or sidelined) the people. They have already moved Anna B. They have already hired two no-talents from the BBC and one from GMTV. Damage is done.

What made them think they needed to drop rolling news? If they did, why not to Sky Headline News, either as a channel or on Sky News Active.
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Sky News Thread - Relaunch on Monday

Good points: The set looks good. The music has promise if it is used well. I don't mind the astons either.

Bad points: Anna Botting at a time I will *never* see her.
Paula? She looked really good earlier today.
What about Anjali?
I really don't want a news channel made up of GMTV and BBC people. If I had wanted GMTV and BBC people, I would never have started watching Sky News. I want Allan, Viv, Sheila. I want Paula and Anjali. I want Jeremy and Anna B together on Live at Five. I am really angry about this.
Evil or Very Mad

I also want a *rolling news channel*. Not segments, or programmes. If I wanted those, I would have been watching News 24 for years. I am really angry about this too.
Evil or Very Mad

Destroy the only decent news channel going why don't they? Oh sorry, they have.
Evil or Very Mad