NJ
Neil Jones
Founding member
The problem as of late seems to be:
"I've got a mock. I like it, its far better than anything I've ever seen on the telly. I'll post it here and bask in the glory while everybody tells me how great this piece of work is."
Two problems:
1) it rarely is great, to a standard that anybody could see it on the telly.
2) It was usually cobbled together in x minutes on Paint. The tool you use isn't the problem. The problem is you spent x minutes on it.
New people who post mocks here seem to lose concept of the fact that this is a TV Presentation Forum . So in other words if what you've done looks crap compared to what's on the telly presentation wise today, then how can it be an improvement on what's already there? This is what we're here for to discuss presentation.
Nobody expects anything posted here to get anywhere near something classic like Carlton's 1999 package for example - most things won't, and in fairness even what is around today isn't as pretty or dynamic as that package was, but that doesn't mean the basics can't apply in a mock. Slapping white text on yellow backgrounds is a no no. Using some ugly font that is totally inappropriate is a no no. Both of which have been done (by accident or otherwise) in other mocks.
How many times have we sat here on TV Forum and looked at something that's just gone out on the telly and wrote things like "that ident is crap", "those colours are totally wrong and just don't work" and "what the bloody hell is that?". And this is for stuff that designers and creators get paid to do for a living, to knock up stuff like that that we can voice an opinion on. So its probably safe to say that professionals can get it in the neck from a site like this, the amateurs should wear some thick skin too.
"I've got a mock. I like it, its far better than anything I've ever seen on the telly. I'll post it here and bask in the glory while everybody tells me how great this piece of work is."
Two problems:
1) it rarely is great, to a standard that anybody could see it on the telly.
2) It was usually cobbled together in x minutes on Paint. The tool you use isn't the problem. The problem is you spent x minutes on it.
New people who post mocks here seem to lose concept of the fact that this is a TV Presentation Forum . So in other words if what you've done looks crap compared to what's on the telly presentation wise today, then how can it be an improvement on what's already there? This is what we're here for to discuss presentation.
Nobody expects anything posted here to get anywhere near something classic like Carlton's 1999 package for example - most things won't, and in fairness even what is around today isn't as pretty or dynamic as that package was, but that doesn't mean the basics can't apply in a mock. Slapping white text on yellow backgrounds is a no no. Using some ugly font that is totally inappropriate is a no no. Both of which have been done (by accident or otherwise) in other mocks.
How many times have we sat here on TV Forum and looked at something that's just gone out on the telly and wrote things like "that ident is crap", "those colours are totally wrong and just don't work" and "what the bloody hell is that?". And this is for stuff that designers and creators get paid to do for a living, to knock up stuff like that that we can voice an opinion on. So its probably safe to say that professionals can get it in the neck from a site like this, the amateurs should wear some thick skin too.
It's goodbye from me after 7037 days. Thank you Asa, Bail, Charlie and everybody else. What a great forum we leave.
