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MO
Moz
BBC3 is still online people.


No it's not. BBC 3 is a television channel. The online replacement is just some branding for a selection of VOD programmes. They're not even remotely similar.

Sorry, but I think that's total rubbish. They're not the same, but they are very similar - the way that most of us now consume the BBC's video output (because it's not television anymore is it - I hardly watch using the aerial anymore) has changed, and I think it makes total sense for BBC II! to be the trailblazer here.

I give television ten years.
MR
mr_vivian
Moz posted:
BBC3 is still online people.


No it's not. BBC 3 is a television channel. The online replacement is just some branding for a selection of VOD programmes. They're not even remotely similar.

Sorry, but I think that's total rubbish. They're not the same, but they are very similar - the way that most of us now consume the BBC's video output (because it's not television anymore is it - I hardly watch using the aerial anymore) has changed, and I think it makes total sense for BBC II! to be the trailblazer here.

I give television ten years.


Have to disagree with TV disappearing in 10 years.

There are huge blackspots still where people have zero access to the Internet - it's going to take much longer than 10 years to iron this out for a start.

A whole generation of viewers will have to pass on before we get rid of Television through the aerial - we've even still got people watching TV on Black and White TV sets!

So, once an entire generation of viewers pass away - I could see TV through the aerial disappearing but I also see the coverage of broadband being more widely available by then and eventually yes everything will move online or perhaps there will be something even better than online by then? Time will tell.
LL
Larry the Loafer
They seem to be embracing the similarities to W1A, with both BBC Two's and BBC Three's Twitter accounts making references to the scene in question.





Whether it was a genuinely conscious decision during the rebrand or it's a desperate attempt to play along with the joke, I find it quite depressing that they're lampooning themselves. That sort of video is something Charlie Brooker should be pointing out.
MO
Moz
Have to disagree with TV disappearing in 10 years.

There are huge blackspots still where people have zero access to the Internet - it's going to take much longer than 10 years to iron this out for a start.

A whole generation of viewers will have to pass on before we get rid of Television through the aerial - we've even still got people watching TV on Black and White TV sets!

So, once an entire generation of viewers pass away - I could see TV through the aerial disappearing but I also see the coverage of broadband being more widely available by then and eventually yes everything will move online or perhaps there will be something even better than online by then? Time will tell.

I didn't mean disappear altogether. I meant I give it ten years as the primary way people consume the media.

Shocked to hear there are people without Internet. Why don't they move?
JC
JCB
They seem to be embracing the similarities to W1A, with both BBC Two's and BBC Three's Twitter accounts making references to the scene in question.





Whether it was a genuinely conscious decision during the rebrand or it's a desperate attempt to play along with the joke, I find it quite depressing that they're lampooning themselves. That sort of video is something Charlie Brooker should be pointing out.


Yes. A tv channel having a sense of humour .....what depressing times we live in. Rolling Eyes Won't someone please think of the grandiose media critics and their now redundant lame observations.
LL
Larry the Loafer
When you consider BBC One and BBC Two are in desperate need of a refresh but can't do so because the Tories and the media will slaughter them for spending money on somebody most people don't care about, rebranding a channel that's approaching death and then openly implying they've put minimal effort into it is surely setting themselves up to be slammed.

Channel 4 take pride in their idents (for some reason) but it wouldn't look very good if they immediately took to Twitter and said "aren't these weird and s**t?"

It just frustrates me because I actively support the BBC and think the many sticks they're beaten with are unjustified and unfair. But they're really not helping themselves by spending what I can only presume is quite a bit of money and then saying "yeah, it's not very good".
MR
mr_vivian
When you consider BBC One and BBC Two are in desperate need of a refresh but can't do so because the Tories and the media will slaughter them for spending money on somebody most people don't care about, rebranding a channel that's approaching death and then openly implying they've put minimal effort into it is surely setting themselves up to be slammed.

Channel 4 take pride in their idents (for some reason) but it wouldn't look very good if they immediately took to Twitter and said "aren't these weird and s**t?"

It just frustrates me because I actively support the BBC and think the many sticks they're beaten with are unjustified and unfair. But they're really not helping themselves by spending what I can only presume is quite a bit of money and then saying "yeah, it's not very good".


It's ludacris spending money on a refreshed brand for online BBC 3 when you already have an already established and well known online brand called BBC iPlayer.

They should have followed Channel 4's On Demand service "ALL4" - and put their unique online only programming under the iPlayer brand.

I guess it's easy for me to sit here and say this - perhaps there's deeper reasons they haven't dumped the BBC 3 brand - but I guess it keeps people in jobs...
CH
channelsurfer
Since somebody pointed it out on Twitter I really can't see the logo without noticing the poor alignment. Thumbs down



MD
mdtauk
When you consider BBC One and BBC Two are in desperate need of a refresh but can't do so because the Tories and the media will slaughter them for spending money on somebody most people don't care about, rebranding a channel that's approaching death and then openly implying they've put minimal effort into it is surely setting themselves up to be slammed.

Channel 4 take pride in their idents (for some reason) but it wouldn't look very good if they immediately took to Twitter and said "aren't these weird and s**t?"

It just frustrates me because I actively support the BBC and think the many sticks they're beaten with are unjustified and unfair. But they're really not helping themselves by spending what I can only presume is quite a bit of money and then saying "yeah, it's not very good".


It's ludacris spending money on a refreshed brand for online BBC 3 when you already have an already established and well known online brand called BBC iPlayer.

They should have followed Channel 4's On Demand service "ALL4" - and put their unique online only programming under the iPlayer brand.

I guess it's easy for me to sit here and say this - perhaps there's deeper reasons they haven't dumped the BBC 3 brand - but I guess it keeps people in jobs...

By moving BBC Three off the TV, they need to work extra hard to give themselves an identity which calls towards the audience, because they can't be discovered by channel surfing any more. The brand should push the content rather than the channel, which is probably why the new logo focuses on the symbol over the number Three.
RO
Rory
BBC News article on the new logo here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35221706
PF
PFML84
Since somebody pointed it out on Twitter I really can't see the logo without noticing the poor alignment. Thumbs down




It's not poor alignment per se, the left column is aligned to the left, the right to the right and the centre column is centred. It's kinda clever if you think about it and see the guidelines there to help show this, and I doubt many could even see this normally on the logo because on the website and the DOG (which I'm assuming changes and tonight will be a new one) will be so small on screen.

BBC News article on the new logo here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35221706

BBC 3 programmes will be shown on BBC 1 or 2 for approx. 2 hours A WEEK.

So, 4x30m programmes or 2x60m dramas/documentaries a week is a suitable enough replacement? Wow.
VM
VMPhil
I've just realised what this reminds me of the mostโ€ฆ

http://www.thisisfive.co.uk/presbits/itv1/big_itv1_10_03.jpg

from http://www.thisisfive.co.uk/presbits/itv1.shtml

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