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Bradby at Ten

ITN Presenter Shake-Up (June 2015)

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PI
pip2
sjhoward posted:
For what it's worth, Jan Moir has seen fit to stick the boot in too. Some choice quotes:

Quote:
Oh, the horror! Tom Bradby has taken over as the new anchor at ITV - and the Jan Scores are in ... Tom sits alone behind a huge slab of black mirror, which masquerades as a desk. I imagine he leans over and smirks happily at his reflection during the ad breaks. Blows himself the occasional kiss ... He has turned the once-respected programme into News at Tom ... Tom is determined to stamp his smarmy personality over everything and everyone. In the process, he down-grades the actual news, which becomes a backdrop to his own lovely self ... I pity the talented ITV journalists, the Bradby Bunch, who must file their reports into this black hole of Tom-smuggery.


I'm genuinely not sure whether Moir's hypocrisy is intended to be 'humorously knowing' or whether she just lacks insight. Either option isn't especially reassuring.


Lacks insight. Lacks humility, humour, intelligence. She lacks plenty, insight included.
CI
cityprod
pip2 posted:
sjhoward posted:
For what it's worth, Jan Moir has seen fit to stick the boot in too. Some choice quotes:

Quote:
Oh, the horror! Tom Bradby has taken over as the new anchor at ITV - and the Jan Scores are in ... Tom sits alone behind a huge slab of black mirror, which masquerades as a desk. I imagine he leans over and smirks happily at his reflection during the ad breaks. Blows himself the occasional kiss ... He has turned the once-respected programme into News at Tom ... Tom is determined to stamp his smarmy personality over everything and everyone. In the process, he down-grades the actual news, which becomes a backdrop to his own lovely self ... I pity the talented ITV journalists, the Bradby Bunch, who must file their reports into this black hole of Tom-smuggery.


I'm genuinely not sure whether Moir's hypocrisy is intended to be 'humorously knowing' or whether she just lacks insight. Either option isn't especially reassuring.


Lacks insight. Lacks humility, humour, intelligence. She lacks plenty, insight included.


Maybe normally she is, but this time, she's pretty spot on. This is worse than the 1999-2003 era of ITV News. "News at Tom" is pretty accurate.
LondonViewer and GMc gave kudos
SC
Schwing
thejules posted:
And just for the record their are periods of time when News at Ten had a significantly more populist and downmarket agenda than today.


Feel free to enlighten us. I, for one, would like to know what you regard as a "downmarket agenda".
PI
pip2
cityprod posted:
pip2 posted:
sjhoward posted:
For what it's worth, Jan Moir has seen fit to stick the boot in too. Some choice quotes:

Quote:
Oh, the horror! Tom Bradby has taken over as the new anchor at ITV - and the Jan Scores are in ... Tom sits alone behind a huge slab of black mirror, which masquerades as a desk. I imagine he leans over and smirks happily at his reflection during the ad breaks. Blows himself the occasional kiss ... He has turned the once-respected programme into News at Tom ... Tom is determined to stamp his smarmy personality over everything and everyone. In the process, he down-grades the actual news, which becomes a backdrop to his own lovely self ... I pity the talented ITV journalists, the Bradby Bunch, who must file their reports into this black hole of Tom-smuggery.


I'm genuinely not sure whether Moir's hypocrisy is intended to be 'humorously knowing' or whether she just lacks insight. Either option isn't especially reassuring.


Lacks insight. Lacks humility, humour, intelligence. She lacks plenty, insight included.


Maybe normally she is, but this time, she's pretty spot on. This is worse than the 1999-2003 era of ITV News. "News at Tom" is pretty accurate.

I think my point was more directed towards 'For what it's worth'. The views of someone lacking humility, humanity, intelligence AREN'T worth anything to me. Agreeing with one thing someone says isn't really reason enough for me to discount the enormous back catalogue of ignorant intolerance. But you go for it.
Last edited by pip2 on 1 November 2015 7:25pm
MI
Michael
I would say this : when you rebrand / restyle a mainstream news bulletin to become more "populist" and "accessible", and then two of the leading right-wing populist hacks / newspapers begin slating you (SExpress / Moir), you have to wonder if it's a case of you having the wrong tone, format and approach. Or perhaps it's that they're scared of you muscling in on their territory? ITV's not allowed to do populist bullsh*t because that's OUR raison d'etre?
LL
London Lite Founding member
Considering Moir uses the term "Jan Scores", that's more dumbed down than anything Bradby has said on NaT in the last two weeks.
CI
cityprod
pip2 posted:
cityprod posted:
pip2 posted:
sjhoward posted:
For what it's worth, Jan Moir has seen fit to stick the boot in too. Some choice quotes:

Quote:
Oh, the horror! Tom Bradby has taken over as the new anchor at ITV - and the Jan Scores are in ... Tom sits alone behind a huge slab of black mirror, which masquerades as a desk. I imagine he leans over and smirks happily at his reflection during the ad breaks. Blows himself the occasional kiss ... He has turned the once-respected programme into News at Tom ... Tom is determined to stamp his smarmy personality over everything and everyone. In the process, he down-grades the actual news, which becomes a backdrop to his own lovely self ... I pity the talented ITV journalists, the Bradby Bunch, who must file their reports into this black hole of Tom-smuggery.


I'm genuinely not sure whether Moir's hypocrisy is intended to be 'humorously knowing' or whether she just lacks insight. Either option isn't especially reassuring.


Lacks insight. Lacks humility, humour, intelligence. She lacks plenty, insight included.


Maybe normally she is, but this time, she's pretty spot on. This is worse than the 1999-2003 era of ITV News. "News at Tom" is pretty accurate.

I think my point was more directed towards 'For what it's worth'. The views of someone lacking humility, humanity, intelligence AREN'T worth anything to me. Agreeing with one thing someone says isn't really reason enough for me to discount the enormous back catalogue of ignorant intolerance. But you go for it.


I'm not discounting their back catalogue, but even a blind squirrel finds a nut occasionally. You should reward those who do speak truth, even if they've never done it before, with recognition that they have actually spoken accurately, no matter how many other things you may disagree with them on.
PI
pip2
cityprod posted:
pip2 posted:
cityprod posted:
pip2 posted:
sjhoward posted:
For what it's worth, Jan Moir has seen fit to stick the boot in too. Some choice quotes:

Quote:
Oh, the horror! Tom Bradby has taken over as the new anchor at ITV - and the Jan Scores are in ... Tom sits alone behind a huge slab of black mirror, which masquerades as a desk. I imagine he leans over and smirks happily at his reflection during the ad breaks. Blows himself the occasional kiss ... He has turned the once-respected programme into News at Tom ... Tom is determined to stamp his smarmy personality over everything and everyone. In the process, he down-grades the actual news, which becomes a backdrop to his own lovely self ... I pity the talented ITV journalists, the Bradby Bunch, who must file their reports into this black hole of Tom-smuggery.


I'm genuinely not sure whether Moir's hypocrisy is intended to be 'humorously knowing' or whether she just lacks insight. Either option isn't especially reassuring.


Lacks insight. Lacks humility, humour, intelligence. She lacks plenty, insight included.


Maybe normally she is, but this time, she's pretty spot on. This is worse than the 1999-2003 era of ITV News. "News at Tom" is pretty accurate.

I think my point was more directed towards 'For what it's worth'. The views of someone lacking humility, humanity, intelligence AREN'T worth anything to me. Agreeing with one thing someone says isn't really reason enough for me to discount the enormous back catalogue of ignorant intolerance. But you go for it.


I'm not discounting their back catalogue, but even a blind squirrel finds a nut occasionally. You should reward those who do speak truth, even if they've never done it before, with recognition that they have actually spoken accurately, no matter how many other things you may disagree with them on.


It's not truth. It's opinion. It's her point-of-view. So it's OK to walk down the street shouting racist, homophobic, sexist remarks at you as long as I'm also picking up litter and helping old ladies cross the road at the same time? And you'll reward me?
SM
smw
There's a story in The Times that the BBC are "revamping" the Ten as a result of 500k being added by ITV NaT. Probably a bit of misreporting (it's only a small teaser on the front) as there has been talk of them making some changes for a while.
CI
cityprod
pip2 posted:
cityprod posted:
pip2 posted:
cityprod posted:
pip2 posted:
sjhoward posted:
For what it's worth, Jan Moir has seen fit to stick the boot in too. Some choice quotes:

Quote:
Oh, the horror! Tom Bradby has taken over as the new anchor at ITV - and the Jan Scores are in ... Tom sits alone behind a huge slab of black mirror, which masquerades as a desk. I imagine he leans over and smirks happily at his reflection during the ad breaks. Blows himself the occasional kiss ... He has turned the once-respected programme into News at Tom ... Tom is determined to stamp his smarmy personality over everything and everyone. In the process, he down-grades the actual news, which becomes a backdrop to his own lovely self ... I pity the talented ITV journalists, the Bradby Bunch, who must file their reports into this black hole of Tom-smuggery.


I'm genuinely not sure whether Moir's hypocrisy is intended to be 'humorously knowing' or whether she just lacks insight. Either option isn't especially reassuring.


Lacks insight. Lacks humility, humour, intelligence. She lacks plenty, insight included.


Maybe normally she is, but this time, she's pretty spot on. This is worse than the 1999-2003 era of ITV News. "News at Tom" is pretty accurate.

I think my point was more directed towards 'For what it's worth'. The views of someone lacking humility, humanity, intelligence AREN'T worth anything to me. Agreeing with one thing someone says isn't really reason enough for me to discount the enormous back catalogue of ignorant intolerance. But you go for it.


I'm not discounting their back catalogue, but even a blind squirrel finds a nut occasionally. You should reward those who do speak truth, even if they've never done it before, with recognition that they have actually spoken accurately, no matter how many other things you may disagree with them on.


It's not truth. It's opinion. It's her point-of-view. So it's OK to walk down the street shouting racist, homophobic, sexist remarks at you as long as I'm also picking up litter and helping old ladies cross the road at the same time? And you'll reward me?


Jeez, talk about gross misrepresentation.

When somebody gets something right, you reward them. When they get something wrong, you criticise them. Is that not common sense???

Oh, and it is fact, by the way. News At Ten is now an opinion show, not a news programme. It shouldn't be calling itself a news bulletin, as it's little more now than Tom Bradby's opinions, and I don't care about his opinions. I care about finding out what made the news today, and I can't get that from News At Ten anymore.
JK
JK08
smw posted:
There's a story in The Times that the BBC are "revamping" the Ten as a result of 500k being added by ITV NaT. Probably a bit of misreporting (it's only a small teaser on the front) as there has been talk of them making some changes for a while.



Quote:
News revamp at BBC
The BBC is planning to revamp the News at Ten after figures revealed that ITV has gained 500,000 viewers in the few weeks since Tom Bradby took over its programme.
SF
Selwyn Froggatt
JK08 posted:
smw posted:
There's a story in The Times that the BBC are "revamping" the Ten as a result of 500k being added by ITV NaT. Probably a bit of misreporting (it's only a small teaser on the front) as there has been talk of them making some changes for a while.



Quote:
News revamp at BBC
The BBC is planning to revamp the News at Ten after figures revealed that ITV has gained 500,000 viewers in the few weeks since Tom Bradby took over its programme.

500.000 viewers is nothing to worry about, it's just the novelty factor. Once they realise how rubbish Bradby is, they'll go back to Auntie

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