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(January 2006)

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EL
elmarko
The wipe would cover everything wouldn't it? All comped on and then the replay over the top?
RD
rdd Founding member
Strangely the wipe was different on Sky - had a gold NFL logo and U.S. flag instead.
DO
dosxuk
The wipe would cover everything wouldn't it? All comped on and then the replay over the top?


If the wipe is being generated by the BBC's graphics, then yes, it can appear on top, but importantly it still needs to be triggered by the host broadcaster's equipment - which implies there is an amount of metadata available. But if they've gone to that effort, why haven't they also made a clock graphic feed available?

[On the other hand, if the wipe is generated by the host broadcaster themselves, then the BBC's graphics will appear on top]
JO
Jon
It was all a bit of a mess really.
BR
Brekkie
Watched for about five minutes earlier and swear the clock only moved three seconds. Suspect that says more about NFL than the BBC graphics.
JO
Jon
It's a terrible TV sport, that's been made even more terrible for TV.

We're very lucky to have our football and rugby. American Football is like having a two hour drive but being constantly stuck traffic jams in comparison.
GE
thegeek Founding member
Jon posted:
Here's that stream complete with US ads!

https://nflstream.yahoo.com

I really don't understand why NFL doesn't offer World Feeds, just means NFL presentation abroad is always a mess. Branded graphics of US broadcasters, promos for shows in the US and no points to join in and out of commentary.


I watch quite a lot of the UFC on BT Sport and it has for years felt like a dirty feed. Americans must think here are the pictures and tough if u don't want to know what 'great drama' is coming up next on Fox complete with quarter screen animated advert! It always makes it feel that we are watching something that is not meant to be for us to watch. I hate the way the BBC and other UK broadcasters here bend over backwards and even provide international liaison for the world feed and will for example add the BBC logo for UK viewers separately to the scorebar on the 6 nations, challenge cup rugby league. With Wimbledon where we can see that the BBC Sport part of the animation is taken away so it is not seen in other countries but the American's are so arrogant and don't seem to care.


At least with the UFC, they provide a backhaul feed and access to the AD* talkback with countdowns to breaks and their durations. With some American feeds, they just provide a network feed (complete with adverts), and sometimes no AD listen at all, which means the playout director at Ericsson has to busk it.

MLS used to be a bit hit-and-miss too, with a choice between the produced network feed or a world feed which often didn't appear until seconds before kick-off, and with ugly graphics you could see from space. I believe IMG are now handling the international distribution for MLS (in London) and adding rather nicer score graphics than before.

Pretty much anywhere outside of North America will provide a world feed with unbranded graphics and different replay wipes. It's not exactly hard to do in a vision mixer - I'm not sure I'd go as far as calling it 'bending over backwards' - but it certainly strikes me as a bit arrogant to not provide one.

* Associate or Assistant Director - the UK equivalent would be a PA.
GE
thegeek Founding member
Jon posted:
It's a terrible TV sport, that's been made even more terrible for TV.

I'm not a fan of sports where the game is an indeterminate length. It can make a right hash of the schedules.
CI
cityprod
Jon posted:
It's a terrible TV sport, that's been made even more terrible for TV.

I'm not a fan of sports where the game is an indeterminate length. It can make a right hash of the schedules.


But it's not an indeterminate length. 60 minutes of actual game time. It goes a lot longer because of all the TV timeouts. There's (i think) a 5 minute break between quarters and about 15 minute half time. Take out the TV timeouts, the game would run for about two hours total.
BR
Brekkie
They only need so many ads because they take so many breaks it makes the games go on for ever. 20-30 minutes less actual game time than rugby and football yet take an hour longer to complete.

It's just a crap sport and it's no wonder it's never taken off outside of North America. They like to make a big deal about the Superbowl but the truth is that pretty much 95% of the audience for it is in the US. It makes golf and cricket look pacey.
EL
elmarko
Can we not take the piss out of the sport? This isn't Digital Spy. I expect that from there. We're better than that.
MA
Markymark
Can we not take the piss out of the sport? This isn't Digital Spy. I expect that from there. We're better than that.


He's not taking the piss out of it, he's simply expressing an opinion that it's dull as ditchwater to watch

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